JUNE 3, 2013

Maria Valtorta-The Poem of the Man-God

LETTERS

From:
RL
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:34 PM

Subject: Information on Maria Valtorta

Dear Michael thanks for the information on Vassula Ryden. I have decided not to [attend the programme] and also forwarded your information to my friend. Could you provide me any information on Maria Valtorta as I’ve got her books titled ‘Poem of the Man God’.

From:
Nn To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Fw: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

http://www.apparitionsites.com/the_discerning_catholics_guide_to_unhealthy_devotions.pdf
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Another example of a well-known author who has been channeling messages from the spirit realm comes from the life of Maria Valtorta.

After making suffering vows to an entity called “Divine Justice”, Maria found herself crippled and unable to leave her bed. During this time she wrote more than 15,000 pages from spiritual entities that were later compiled into the five-volume series entitled The Poem of the Man-God. Even though the Holy Office examined The Poem of the Man-God and condemned it, recommending that it be placed on the Index of Forbidden Books, it continues to be promoted at false apparition sites throughout the world.5

Although it is true that God wants to commune with all of his beloved children, he will never violate anyone’s free will by taking control of the individual’s hand to write messages. When this type of phenomena occurs, it is a good indicator that the medium has opened the door to the demonic.

Caserta, Italy (Poem of the Man-God)

http://www.miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/statements/index.html#caserta

April 17, 1993 – CONDEMNATION OF THE WORKS OF MARIA VALTORTA
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [more]

June 15, 1966 – STATEMENT ABOUT CONCERNING THE MORAL FORCE OF THE INDEX OF FORBIDDEN BOOKS
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [more]

Discernment of Sprits

http://www.emmitsburg.net/cult_watch/articles/discernment_of_spirts.htm
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By Fr. William G Most [Also at http://www.ewtn.com/library/SCRIPTUR/DISSPR.TXT]

Pope John XXIII, ordered “The Poem of the Man God” [Maria Valtorta] put on the Index, on December 16, 1960; the Index is now abolished, but Cardinal Ratzinger in a letter of Jan. 31, 1985 wrote: “The Index of forbidden books keeps all of its moral authority and therefore the distribution and recommendation of the work is considered improper when its condemnation was not made lightly but with the most serious motivation of neutralizing the harm which such publication could inflict on the more unwary faithful.”

Exorcists disagree on major topics of discernment, from mystics to occult novels

http://www.spiritdaily.org/exorcists.htm
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By Michael H. Brown, January 2012

The realm of evil is so difficult to discern. Even exorcists disagree (sometimes profoundly). We have seen the case just recently where one major exorcist, indeed a famous one, from Rome, issued warnings about occult characters like Harry Potter (as, in a way, did the Pope, before he was Pope), while another not famous but highly-educated younger exorcist has stated that there’s no problem with  the novels.

Ditto for other forms of mysticism. There was a loud case in Italy last year when two exorcists publicly disagreed on a major apparition (one intensely criticizing those who did not believe in it — even saying they were sinning in their disbelief, allowing a great manifestation from Heaven to be wasted — while the other called it the work of evil spirits).

Similar disagreement has long hovered over the writings of a mystic, Maria Valtorta, whose works were once on the Vatican’s Index of Forbidden Books (Liborum Prohibitorum); some say they are still a problem, while others state that they are okay to read. (After Vatican II, the “index” was abolished; but does that mean books once so listed are now acceptable, spiritually? For your own judgment!)

Vassula Ryden’s True Life in God messages – TLIG creates new doctrine on mortal sin and sin against the Holy Spirit

http://web.archive.org/web/20091211181023/http://www.infovassula.ch/tligmortalsin.htm
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Vassula cites in support of her sayings, the writings of saints and legitimate personalities such as St. Simeon, Basil the Great or St. Silouan plus other citations of a more doubtful accuracy such as an extract from Maria Valtorta‘s writings (1).

(1) Maria Valtorta’s “Poem of the Man-God” was condemned by the Holy Office (see Osservatore Romano January 6th, 1960) and re-confirmed by Cardinal Ratzinger in 1993 (Prot. N. 144/58i).

Vassula Ryden

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=272193&postcount=27
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By Catholic Answers,
October 29, 2004

Another controversial seer.

Basically we have the same situation on our hands as that for Maria Valtorta. The CDF has concluded that her writings are

(i) Not supernatural in origin and

(ii) Doctrinally deviant as well in places.

For the purposes of this website which is classified according to evidence of supernaturality Vassula Ryden is also entered under the “Discouraged” section.

THE DISCREDITED VASSULA RYDEN-MARIA VALTORTA-MEDJUGORJE COMBINE

Series Name: Mother Angelica Live, Pg. Name: Dish Network/Visionaries

Guest: Fr. Mitch Pacwa, Date programmed: December 12, 1995

http://web.archive.org/web/20100413170651/http://www.infovassula.ch/tligangelicalivepacwa.htm
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Added on September 9, 2004 by Maria Laura Pio

And in regard to someone like Vassula Ryden and Maria Valtorta, the Church has given consistent and regular decisions. In the case of Valtorta and recently for Vassula, saying that there are problems in what they have written. And that their claims to be directly from Christ; in case of both ladies, cannot be substantiated by the Church. Now you see in both, Vassula claims when she writes Christ moves her hand and in some way or other He is the author of these books that she’d written. And Valtorta called herself the “secretary” of Jesus and Mary, and that she is called “little John”, and she ascribed exactly what they told her. Now, that is a very heavy claim! A very heavy claim!

Now the Church never even said that is exactly how the Bible was written. The Church hadn’t, you know, we did never say the Holy Spirit grabbed hold of the hand and wrote, know it’s inspirational. How God inspires the Church hasn’t made specific. We just know that the Holy Spirit is the author of the Scripture and the primary author, and the secondary the human author. How and exactly it happened, the Evangelists didn’t tell us, the other, St. Paul; it’s up to God and them.

These two said that they are actually “secretaries” writing in the case of Valtorta, writing in the case of Vassula. Given that, we have to submit what they say to the norm of the Church, okay? And the Church said “No” in both cases.

And with that, I think, comes a certain amount of obedience that we have to submit to. Even if we like them. Whether we like them or not is really irrelevant because I get concerned about people who said that “well, I find it helpful to me so I am going to use it”. That is just as disobedient as the person who say “well I feel like having a certain amount of dancing at the altar.” The Church doesn’t approve it, but I do, so I am going to do that. Or I feel like having reading from Jablio Shoblank (?) instead of reading the Bible, because I find it meaningful. We don’t make those decisions about what we do in the liturgy and of what we believe, just on personal opinion.

M.A: What are some of the errors father, I mean the people they who write to us, they are heated about it.

Fr.: Absolutely they did the same thing to me

M.A: And even when you give some of these, but I think there are very serious errors in both.

Fr.: In the Maria Valtorta books, the errors I think are not as serious as in Vassula. But serious nonetheless… (pertaining to Valtorta)

… all of us not just, Vassula or Valtorta, I, you, all of us must submit to what the Truth have been revealed by Christ through His Church.

M.A: I think the reason for all this is father; people are starving, starving for the Truth and for spirituality.

Fr.: yes, yes,

M.A: And they get all this mumbo jumbo, all this, the liberals give everywhere. I think that what make people rush to these places because they don’t know.

Fr.: … They hear this stuff and then they say well, now, it’s up to us to talk, and this is one of the things I recommend that somebody like Valtorta or Vassula would want a personal relationship with Christ. They want to know Christ, they want to love Christ, they want to devote their hearts, their love. Vassula speaks beautifully well, not always correctly but she speaks, she desires to love the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Great, I love that too, that’s good. We should seek a personal relationship with Christ.

From:
Mark Waterinckx
To:
Mark Waterinckx
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:38 PM

Subject:
Medjugorje: More Distortions and Contortions Exposed By F. John Loughnan

http://www.semperficatholic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=30941&sid=0e488aa6a18f487ece78a566d9607fc7 EXTRACT

In the July/Aug 2000 issue of Patrick Madrid’s “ENVOY“
[01] magazine, Fr. Brian answered a question regarding Maria Valtorta’s “Poem of the man-God”, which it is alleged that on January 27, 1988 Medjugorje [alleged] visionary Vicka Ivankovic, in an interview with an American attorney said: “Our Lady said if a person wants to know Jesus, he should read The Poem of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta. That book is the truth.” [02]  The headline appropriately read: “La Reporta Valtorta: Distorta, Contorta, E Non-Importa.”

In like manner are so many other blatent propaganda articles, videos and commentaries – just another being a page that I first saw in 2001, and kept a hard-copy, on Fr. Finelli’s “Medjugorje Page” – data which would be slavishly believed – as if infallible – and propagated on other sites, such as Paul Baylis’ “Marian Times“.  It is the latter which a very much over-enthusiastic adherent propagates ceaselessly on “Gloria.tv“, and which
led the present writer to research the veracity of the data provided.  

To Winston Churchill is attributed: “A Lie travels around the world while Truth is putting on it’s boots.”  To which I would add: “…but, Truth eventually catches up with the miscreants!” 

In some parts of the world “telling lies” is described colloquially as “telling porkies” or “porky pies”!

Of which, Craig L. Heimbichner examined examined deeply in “Medjugorje: Old Lies, New Admissions.“
[04]

The conclusion proves that “Bishops who have visited Medjugorje” is in the same class of “Poem of the man-God”, and is, simply, consistent with the whole ethos of Medjugorje from the very start.

The alleged appearances commenced on June 24, 1981. In July, 1981, July: “Under examination, Mirjana Dragicevic lies under oath – first of all, she stated: ‘We went to look for our sheep when at once…’ (The associate pastor interrupted and told me that they actually went out to smoke, which they hid from their parents.) ‘Wait a minute, Mirjana, you’re under oath. Did you go out to look for your sheep?’ She put her hand over her mouth. ‘Forgive me, we went out to smoke’.” [03]
Immediately below is an amalgamation of a file from Fr. Finelli’s “Medjugorje Page” in 2001 and 2010. There is only one difference (highlighted in yellow) in the 2010 version – the deletion of a double-entry in respect of Bishop D. Montrose. The 2001 version is currently (May, 7, 2010) viewable at “Marian Times” – which is being promoted on “Gloria.tv”.

2001 In non-Italics & non-bold http://www.medugorje.com/jijakovici/bishops.htm

2010 In Italics & bold http://www.medugorje.com/church/bishops-who-visited-medjugorje/#comments

Bishops who visited Medjugorje

The records of St. James Church in Medjugorje list the names of over 40,000 priests and 160 bishops representing every continent who have personally made the journey to Medjugorje. (If you know of more and can give factual proof, we can ad them to the list) […]

Further Comment

1. America possesses approx. 373 bishops – of which proponents falsely claimed 25 visited Medjugorje
When one reduces the number due to double-counting, this represents 6.2% of the total living USA bishops – which is a false figure anyway, for there have been many bishops between 1981 – 2010 who have died1
2. France: Of 238 currently living bishops – only one (1) is claimed to have visited Medjugorje. How many bishops from 1981 (the date of the first alleged apparition at Medjugorje) have subsequently died?

3. The former Yugoslavian bishops from Bosnia Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Monte Negro, Serbia and Slovenia now number approx. 78 living bishops – of whom only three (3) have been recorded as visiting Medjugorje. Plus, of course, there are absent those who have died from 1981 on.
4. Without doubt, Fr. Finelli would not like to see his name mis-represented as, say, Fr. Financialli; and Paul Baylis, similarly, would not accept Raul Payless? How anyone could place their faith in the reliability, professionalism or basic integrity of the original compilers and subsequent promoters of these outlandish errors” is beyond belief! […]

Footnotes

[01] Envoy Magazine http://www.envoymagazine.com/backissues/4.4/question.htm

[02] [Original page removed, but viewable at:] Valtorta Publishing: http://web.archive.org/web/20080306081820http://home.eznet.net/~valtorta/endorse.htm

[03] Bishop Zanic: http://www.members.tripod.com/~chonak/documents/m199900201_zanic.html

[04] Craig L. Heimbichner, http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparirions/MedjugorjeLies.html

One listed bishop is excommunicated; others are double-listed in the Medjugorje pages, and so on -Michael

Poem of the Man God

http://charismatic-heresy.blogspot.in/2006/11/poem-of-man-god.html

November 18, 2006

I was introduced to the “Poem of the Man-God” at the Prayer Group, where else? One bad source reinforcing the other, apparently the Medjugorje visionaries endorsed it. The peculiar thing about it is that it has an old time, but falsely obtained imprimatur. Very misleading. So imprimatur, prayer group, Medjugorje, what more could a girl ask for, how much confirmation does one really need? Then one day it dawned on me that “man-God” is a heresy, the title should have been God-man. I read several of the books before I got a severe case of indigestion, and some parts just started to make no sense at all, i.e. Mary yelling at the foot of the cross “Go Away, Go Away! Men Disgust Me!” Darn it, I bought them, if I recall it correctly there were five hefty volumes! And they weren’t cheap. Then afterwards I found out that Rome condemned the books in 1949, 1959, 1960, 1985, and twice in 1993. As they say Buyer Beware!

Is the Poem of the Man-God Simply a Bad Novel?

http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=3365, http://www.ewtn.com/library/scriptur/valtorta.txt

By Fr Mitch Pacwa SJ, (New Covenant/Our Sunday Visitor, February 1994)

Maria Valtorta‘s multi-volume life of Jesus flirts with heresy and exhibits bad taste. Its claims to authenticity have been rejected by Rome.

The Poem of the Man-God is a five-volume “narrative” of the life of Jesus written in the 1940s by a sickly Italian woman named Maria Valtorta. Poem purports to fill in the details of Jesus’ life left blank by the four Gospels. Such narratives have been produced since the second century A.D. Some were written by gnostic heretics. Some by New Agers and occultists. And some were produced by pious Christians who made up stories about Jesus to edify their readers and listeners.

The four Gospels do not give a biography of Jesus — or of anyone else in His life. Their purpose is evangelical and theological — to proclaim the Good News that human beings need for their salvation. Thus, for centuries, the “hidden life” of Jesus has been the subject for speculation.

The Poem of the Man-God is in this tradition of apocryphal literature on New Testament themes. Valtorta claimed that she was the “secretary” of Jesus and Mary, and was setting down the divinely inspired truth about Jesus’ life. The Church has rejected this claim. Nevertheless, Poem has become quite popular, particularly among Catholics as well.

Remarkably, the book has grown in popularity in part because its champions claim that high Church officials — including one Pope — endorsed it. They haven’t. In fact, Poem was included on the Index of Forbidden books until the abolition of the Index in the 1960s. No less an authority than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, reiterates the Church’s rejection of the claims made for The Poem of the Man-God.

How did The Poem of the Man-God come to be, and how has the notion become widely accepted that it contains important religious truth?

Maria Valtorta, author of Poem, was born in 1897 into a sadly dysfunctional family, where she suffered emotional abuse at the hands of a despotic mother. When she was 23, she was attacked and beaten by a mugger. She was never completely well after that. From 1933 on, she was unable to leave her bed.

Maria began to receive “dictations” on Good Friday, 1943. In 1947, she handed over 10,000 handwritten pages to her spiritual director, Father Romuald Migliorini, O.S.M. Father Migliorini typed them and Father Corrado Berti, O.S.M. bound them. Fr. Berti brought them to Father — later Cardinal — Augustin Bea, S.J., spiritual director to Pope Pius XII.

Did Pope Pius read the whole manuscript or parts? If only part, which part? Advertisements by the Canadian Central distributors for Valtorta (CEDIVAL) quote Father Bea: “I have read in typed manuscripts many of the books written by Maria Valtorta . . . As far as exegesis is concerned, I did not find any errors in the parts which I examined.” Notice, he read only parts of the books. Which were they?

On Feb. 26, 1948, Fathers Migliorini, Berti and A. Cecchin enjoyed a private audience with Pope Pius XII, as listed in L’Osservatore Romano’s daily announcement of audiences. Standing in St. Peter’s Square after the audience, Father Berti wrote down Pope Pius’ words as he remembered them.

These words were “not” printed in L’Osservatore Romano, but Father Berti remembered the Pope saying:

“Publish this work as it is. There is no need to give an opinion about its origin, whether it be extraordinary or not. Who reads it, will understand. One hears of many visions and revelations. I will not say they are all authentic; but there are some of which it could be said that they are.”

CEDIVAL calls this a “Supreme Pontifical Imprimatur,” where “he took upon himself to pass the first official judgment on these writings.” CEDIVAL glues this inside the cover, though the publisher does not print an imprimatur. The reason: it has none!

Confident of papal approval, Father Berti brought the books to the Vatican press. However, in 1949, two commissioners of the Holy Office, Msgr. Giovanni Pepe and Father Berruti, O.P., condemned the Poem, ordering Berti to hand over every copy and sign an agreement not to publish it. Father Berti returned the manuscripts to Valtorta and handed over only his typed versions.

Despite his signed promise, in 1952 Father Berti went to publisher Emiliano Pisani. Though aware of the Holy Office’s opposition, Pisani printed the first volume in 1956, and a new volume each year through 1959.

When volume four appeared, the Holy Office examined the Poem and condemned it, recommending that it be placed on the Index of Forbidden Books Dec. 16, 1959. Pope John XXIII signed the decree and ordered it published. L’Osservatore Romano, on Jan. 6, 1960, printed the condemnation with an accompanying front-page article, “A Badly Fictionalized Life of Jesus,” to explain it.

The article complained that the Poem broke Canon Law. “Though they treat exclusively of religious issues, these volumes do not have an “imprimatur,” which is required by Canon 1385, sect. 1, n. 2.”

Second, the long speeches of Jesus and Mary starkly contrast with the evangelists, who portray Jesus as “humble, reserved; His discourses are lean, incisive.” Valtorta’s fictionalized history makes Jesus sound “like a chatterbox, always ready to proclaim Himself the Messiah and the Son of God,” or teach theology in modern terms. The Blessed Mother speaks like a “propagandist” for modern Marian theology.

Third, “some passages are rather risqué,” like the “immodest” dance before Pilate (vol. 5, p. 73).

There are “many historical, geographical and other blunders.” For instance, Jesus uses screwdrivers (Vol. 1, pp. 195, 223), centuries before screws existed.

There are theological errors, as when “Jesus says” (vol. 1, p. 30) that Eve’s temptation consisted in arousing her flesh, as the serpent sensuously “caressed” her. While she “began the sin by herself,” she “accomplished it with her companion.” Sun Myung Moon and Maria Valtorta may claim the first sin was sexual, but Scripture does not.

Vol. 1, p. 7, oddly claims, “Mary can be called the ‘second-born’ of the Father . . .” Her explanation limits the meaning, avoiding evidence of an authentic heresy; but it does not take away the basic impression that she wants to construct a new mariology, which simply goes beyond the limits of propriety.”

“Another strange and imprecise statement” made of Mary (vol. 4, p. 240) is that she will “be second to Peter with regard to ecclesiastical hierarchy. . .” Our Lady surpasses St. Peter’s holiness, but she is not in the hierarchy, let alone second to St. Peter.

Further, Valtorta did not claim to write a novel, but called herself a “secretary” of Jesus and Mary, so, “in all parts one reads the words ‘Jesus says. . .’ or ‘Mary says . . .'” The Church takes this claim to revelation very seriously, since it has the God-given duty to discern what is or is not truly from the Holy Spirit. In Valtorta’s case, the Church decided against Divine inspiration.

Finally, Poem is condemned for reasons of disobedience. Competent Church authority had prohibited the printing of Valtorta’s work.

Pope John’s approval of the condemnation of the Poem of the Man-God should have ended the issue, but it did not. The publishers printed a second edition of 10 volumes, which the Church condemned in another front-page article in L’Osservatore Romano, Dec. 1, 1961. This second Italian edition was later translated into German, French, Spanish and English.

CEDIVAL asserts that a “modernist clan in the Church” . . . “surreptitiously attempted to seize the manuscripts and destroy them,” claiming “firsthand documentation on this.” These “enemies” included Msgr. Pepe and Father Berruti, the Holy Office censors. I asked the head of CEDIVAL, Prof. Leo Brodeur, for evidence that Msgr. Pepe and Father Berruti held any modernist heresies, but he had none. He assumed they were modernists because the “Poem” claims “to help the Church fight against the terrible heresy of modernism.” If the Poem‘s enemies are modernists, Msgr. Pepe and Father Berruti must be modernists, too.

Such assertions are unacceptable. Accusations of modernism or any other heresy without proof is slander.

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, present head of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (formerly the same office that condemned the Poem), informed Cardinal Siri in 1985 of the “Poem’s condemnation:

After the dissolution of the Index, when some people thought the printing and distribution of the work was permitted, they were reminded again in L’Osservatore Romano (June 15, 1966) that “The Index retains its moral force despite its dissolution.”

More recently (April 17, 1993, Prot. N. 144/58i), he wrote:

“The ‘visions’ and ‘dictations’ referred to in the work, The Poem of the Man-God, are simply the literary forms used by the author to narrate in her own way the life of Jesus. They cannot be considered supernatural in origin.”

The best that can be said for The Poem of the Man-God is that it is a bad novel. This was summed up in the L’Osservatore Romano headline, which called the book “A Badly Fictionalized Life of Jesus.”

At worst, Poem‘s impact is more serious. Though many people claim that Poem helps their faith or their return to reading Scripture, they are still being disobedient to the Church’s decisions regarding the reading of Poem. How can such disregard for Church authority and wisdom be a help in renewing the Church in these difficult times?

When Catholics insist on reading Poem, despite Church condemnation, I make these requests: First, read three hours of Scripture for every one hour spent in the Poem. The Church guarantees that the Bible is God’s Word, inspired by the Holy Spirit. The Church has judged the Poem to be a poorly done human work. Second, read solid Catholic theology books in addition to Scripture. G.K. Chesterton, Frank Sheed, Archbishop Sheen’s Life of Christ and many other works are excellent starts. Third, maintain a strong prayer life, drawing closer to Christ Jesus, Our Lord, at Mass and at eucharistic adoration, and to our Blessed Mother Mary, especially in the Rosary.

If sheep insist on bad pasturage, at least let them take antidotes.

MEDJUGORJE – A CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS – Allegations vs. Evidence

http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparitions/MedjugorjeHistory.htm
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By F John Loughnan, October 25, 2002

1988, Jan. 27: “Medjugorje [alleged] visionary Vicka Ivankovic, in an interview with an American attorney said: ‘Our Lady said if a person wants to know Jesus, he should read THE POEM OF THE MAN-GOD by Maria Valtorta. That book is the truth.'” ₃₂

May 6,1992: “Archbishop Dionigi Tettamanzi, in his capacity as Secretary General of the Italian Bishops’ Conference, wrote to the publisher Emilio Pisani to request that ‘in the event the volumes [“Poem of the man-God”] are reprinted, it be clearly stated at the outset that the ‘visions’ and ‘dictations’ related therein may not be considered to possess a supernatural origin, but must simply be deemed literary forms of which the author has made use to narrate the life of Jesus in her own way.” ₃₈ Given that the publisher had not done this up to date, there is little hope that the request would be complied with. In fact, the Melbourne distributor of Valtorta‘s works offered me the new (in 2001) Italian edition. He was not able to establish whether or not the disclaimer was printed in this new edition! [F.J.L.]

₃₂ Valtorta Publishing: “Endorsements of Maria Valtorta’s Writings”

₃₈ Valtorta Promoter Website

http://www.sanctepater.com/2012/07/father-mitch-pacwa-lack-of-any.html
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By Greg Garrison – Religion News Service, Saturday, July 28, 2012

[Father Mitch] Pacwa said there is no chance for the visions to get approval while they’re still going on, and it’s a long shot even after they stop.
One quirk that emerged was when two of the Medjugorje visionaries said the Virgin Mary endorsed a book, “The Poem of the Man-God,” that had been condemned by the Vatican. The fanciful 1940s biography of Jesus by Maria Valtorta contains details like a dancing girl brushing up against Jesus, Joseph giving young Jesus an anachronistic tool kit with screwdrivers and the Virgin Mary making statements such as “man disgusts me,” he said. “The book had been condemned by the church in 1959 because it said a lot of silly things that contradicted what were in the gospels,” Pacwa said. “The church rejected it. Any vision must be judged by revelation that exists in the gospels. You can’t say anything you want.”

See

NORMS REGARDING THE MANNER OF PROCEEDING IN THE DISCERNMENT OF PRESUMED APPARITIONS OR REVELATIONS
PAUL VI/CDF FEBRUARY 25, 1978 & DECEMBER 14, 2011

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/NORMS_REGARDING_THE_MANNER_OF_PROCEEDING_IN_THE_DISCERNMENT_OF_PRESUMED_APPARITIONS_OR_REVELATIONS.doc

NORMS REGARDING THE MANNER OF PROCEEDING IN THE DISCERNMENT OF PRESUMED APPARITIONS OR REVELATIONS 02
CDF MAY 29, 2012

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/NORMS_REGARDING_THE_MANNER_OF_PROCEEDING_IN_THE_DISCERNMENT_OF_PRESUMED_APPARITIONS_OR_REVELATIONS_02.doc

MARIAN APPARITIONS

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/MARIAN_APPARITIONS.doc

PRIVATE REVELATION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/PRIVATE_REVELATION.doc

PRIVATE_REVELATION-CRITERIA_FOR_DISCERNMENT-RICHARD_SALBATO

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/PRIVATE_REVELATION-CRITERIA_FOR_DISCERNMENT-RICHARD_SALBATO.doc

PRIVATE REVELATION-RULES FOR DISCERNMENT OF PHENOMENA-FR FELIX BOURDIER

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/PRIVATE_REVELATION-RULES_FOR_DISCERNMENT_OF_PHENOMENA-FR_FELIX_BOURDIER.doc

CARDINAL IVAN DIAS PROMOTES CONTROVERSIAL MARIAN APPARITIONS

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/CARDINAL_IVAN_DIAS_PROMOTES_CONTROVERSIAL_MARIAN_APPARITIONS.doc

AKITA, JAPAN-ARE THE SUPERNATURAL EVENTS GENUINE?

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/AKITA-JAPAN-ARE_THE_SUPERNATURAL_EVENTS_GENUINE.doc

CHRISTINA GALLAGHER-THE HOUSE OF PRAYER

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/CHRISTINA_GALLAGHER-THE_HOUSE_OF_PRAYER.doc

FALSE PRIVATE REVELATION OF MICHAEL DIBITETTO – RON SMITH

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/FALSE_PRIVATE_REVELATION_OF_MICHAEL_DIBITETTO-RON_SMITH.doc

FR STEFANO GOBBI-MARIAN MOVEMENT OF PRIESTS

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/FR_STEFANO_GOBBI-MARIAN_MOVEMENT_OF_PRIESTS.doc

GARABANDAL

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/GARABANDAL.doc

JULIA KIM-MARYS ARK OF SALVATION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/JULIA KIM-MARYS ARK OF SALVATION.doc

MARIA DIVINE MERCY-THE WARNING SECOND COMING AND THE BOOK OF TRUTH

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/MARIA_DIVINE_MERCY- THE_WARNING_SECOND_COMING_AND_THE_BOOK_OF_TRUTH.doc

MAUREEN SWEENEY-HOLY LOVE MINISTRIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/MAUREEN_SWEENEY-HOLY_LOVE_MINISTRIES.doc

MEDJUGORJE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/MEDJUGORJE.doc

MEDJUGORJE-CAREY WINTERS

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/MEDJUGORJE-CAREY_WINTERS.doc

MEDJUGORJE-JOHN LOUGHMAN

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/MEDJUGORJE-JOHN_LOUGHMAN.doc

PATRICIA DE MENEZES-THE COMMUNITY OF DIVINE INNOCENCE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/PATRICIA_DE_MENEZES-THE_COMMUNITY_OF_DIVINE_INNOCENCE.doc

QUO VADIS PAPA FRANCISCO 02-MEDJUGORJE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/QUO_VADIS_PAPA_FRANCISCO_02-MEDJUGORJE.doc

VERONICA LUEKEN-OUR LADY OF THE ROSES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VERONICA_LUEKEN-OUR_LADY_OF_THE_ROSES.doc

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