Vassula Ryden: Correspondence with the Bishops and others



JANUARY 14/FEBRUARY 4, 2013

Vassula Ryden: Correspondence with the Bishops and others

The Greek Orthodox at least twice-married divorcee, Mrs. Vassula Ryden, alleged mystic, visited Catholic dioceses in several cities in India, December 2012 against scheduled speaking arrangements in Faridabad [Haryana], New Delhi, Mumbai, Coimbatore, Alleppey [Kerala] and Kolkata.

Commencing November 24, 2012, I mailed a brief alert to the Bishops and institutional heads concerned, from details collected from Vassula Ryden‘s True Life in God web site.

It was followed by a couple of days later by a short report dated November 25, 2012, titled

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

This report was updated several times on our web site and was concluded January 13, 2013 at 60 pages.

A second report titled

VASSULA RYDEN-HIERATIC OR HERETIC

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-HIERATIC_OR_HERETIC.doc
was also released January 13, 2012.

Between November 25, 2012 and January 13, 2013, I published three more of my reports and fifty-three articles or compilations of articles by other writers, largely Catholic. One article is from an ecumenical group and four or five from Orthodox sources. The list [titles and links] is at the bottom of this report

The present report is hopefully the last in the Vassula Ryden series. As its title indicates, it is more of a record of the feedback that this ministry received to the alert of November 25, 2012. A few responses were necessarily included in a couple of other reports such as on pages 43 through 48 of

VASSULA RYDEN-A CDF NOTIFICATION BISHOPS WARNINGS AND THEOLOGICAL CRITIQUES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-A_CDF_NOTIFICATION_BISHOPS_WARNINGS_AND_THEOLOGICAL_CRITIQUES.doc

 

Out of necessity and as a practice, I reproduce below models of letters mailed by this ministry to Bishops and Catholic institutional heads. I would rather not apologize here for my reasons for publishing them, which I believe are just. I am however prepared to answer any private mail desiring an explanation.

Different models of covering letters to different Church leaders, varying slightly in their composition for obvious reasons were sent to the Church authorities of the different cities.

The interested reader will be obliged to sift through the correspondence to find the few positive responses received. To help readily identify them, I will employ different fonts for some of the replies that I received.

The correspondence is filed chronologically as far as possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From:
prabhu
To:
archbishop vincent
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:26 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DELHI

From:
prabhu
To:
francomulakkal@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:27 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DELHI

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. VINCENT M. CONCESSAO, ARCHBISHOP OF DELHI 

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. FRANCO MULAKKAL, AUXILIARY BISHOP OF DELHI

Your Grace,

I understand that the alleged Greek Orthodox “seer” Vassula Ryden is giving a talk after Holy Mass on December 2, 2012 at the Sacred Heart Cathedral in New Delhi.

She is currently visiting in France where the Cardinal-Archbishop of Paris and Bishops of five other dioceses have separately issued firm warnings to the Catholic faithful to not attend her meetings.

Further, the CDF Notification dated October 6, 1995 signed by its Prefect Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger and the CDF Letter dated January 25, 2007 signed by its Prefect William Cardinal Levada against the errors from the Catholic perspective of her alleged “messages” still stand as “doctrinal judgement” against her writings.

As a Catholic apologist, I thought that I should bring this to your kind attention as this is not the first time that the ecclesiastical authorities in Delhi are felicitating her and encouraging her prayer groups, all of who promote an ecumenism and a millennialism that are contrary to what the Roman Catholic Church teaches.

Additionally, there are numerous other issues and problems with her personal life, “messages” and teachings.

I look forward to your kind acknowledgement and necessary intervention.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

www.ephesians-511.net

 

From:
prabhu
To:
archbishop vincent
Cc:
francomulakkal@gmail.com ; micolli@rediffmail.com
{as above}

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:51 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DELHI AND FARIDABAD

KIND ATTENTION

The Regional Bishops’ Council of the North
(RBCN) – CHANDIGARH

Chairman Most Rev. Vincent M. Concessao

Secretary Most Rev. Franco Mulakkal

Regional Deputy Secretary Rev. Fr. Michael Collins…

 

From:
prabhu
To:
faridabaddiocese@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:36 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN FARIDABAD

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. MAR KURIAKOSE BHARANIKULANGARA, ARCHBISHOP OF FARIDABAD [HARYANA]

From:
prabhu
To:
divineashram@gmail.com ; info@divinedelhi.org ; divinetruthmagazine@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:28 AM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DIVINE RETREAT CENTER, FARIDABAD

Dear Rev. Fr. Joby VC and other Reverend Fathers…

 

From:
prabhu
To:
Archbishop Bombay ; Archbishop’s House ; abpossie@gmail.com ;

Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:41 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN MUMBAI

KIND ATTENTION

HIS EMINENCE OSWALD CARDINAL GRACIAS, ARCHBISHOP OF BOMBAY,

PRESIDENT,
CATHOLIC BISHOPS’ CONFERENCE OF INDIA…

From:
prabhu
To:
St.Pius College ; agnelorg@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:45 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN MUMBAI

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. AGNELO RUFINO GRACIAS, AUXILIARY BISHOP OF BOMBAY

Chairperson, Theology and Doctrine Commission, Conference of Catholic Bishops of India…

From:
prabhu
To:
Percival Fernandez
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:47 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN MUMBAI

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. PERCIVAL FERNANDEZ, AUXILIARY BISHOP EMERITUS OF BOMBAY…

From:
prabhu
To:
bp_bosco@vsnl.net
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:51 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN MUMBAI

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. BOSCO PENHA, AUXILIARY BISHOP EMERITUS OF BOMBAY…

 

 

From:
prabhu
To:
agnelorg@gmail.com ; St.Pius College ; abpossie@gmail.com ; Archbishop’s House ; Archbishop Bombay
Cc:
bp_bosco@vsnl.net ; Percival Fernandez
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:58 AM

Subject: FOLLOW-UP: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN BOMBAY ARCHDIOCESE AND THE ADS. IN THE EXAMINER

Dear Cardinal Oswald Gracias, Bishop Agnelo, Bishop Percival, and Bishop Bosco,

This is a follow-up to my as yet unacknowledged letters to you of November 24, 2012.

I have noted that The Examiner has carried advertisements for the programme of Vassula Ryden.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing the errors of Vassula Ryden and her deceit, written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries.

I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA and the one immediately below contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS, EVEN HERESIES]

The document is also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

 

From:
prabhu
To:
bis@donboscomumbai.org ; sjbcborivli@gmail.com ; frallwyn@gmail.com ; anthony12873@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:46 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DON BOSCO’S, MUMBAI

KIND ATTENTION

Rev. Fr. Aloysius Furtado, Rev. Fr. Allwyn Misquitta, and other Salesian Fathers of Don Bosco… 

From:
prabhu
To:
provincial@donboscomumbai.org
Cc:
dbborivli@hotmail.com

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 6:01 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DON BOSCO’S, MUMBAI

KIND ATTENTION:

Fr. Michael Fernandes, Don Bosco Provincial House MUMBAI

Fr. William Falcao, Rector, Don Bosco’s School, Borivali…

From:
prabhu
To:
gandhinagardioc@gmail.com ; abpstanny@gmail.com ; abpstanny1@dataone.in ; abpstan@gmail.com

Cc:
bishopcolaco@gmail.com ; frreuben@rediffmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:56 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN BOMBAY ARCHDIOCESE

KIND ATTENTION

The Western Regional Bishops’ Council (WRBC)MUMBAI

Chairman Most Rev. Stanislaus Fernandes

Secretary Most Rev. Edwin Colaco

Regional Deputy Secretary Rev. Fr. Reuben Tellis… 

 

From:
prabhu
To:
gandhinagardioc@gmail.com ; abpstanny@gmail.com ; abpstanny1@dataone.in ; abpstan@gmail.com

Cc:
bishopcolaco@gmail.com ; frreuben@rediffmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:06 AM

Subject: FOLLOW-UP: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN BOMBAY ARCHDIOCESE — AND THE ADS. IN THE EXAMINER

Dear Archbishop Stanislaus, Bishop Edwin, and Fr. Reuben,

This is a follow-up to my as yet unacknowledged letters to you of November 26, 2012.

I have noted that The Examiner has carried advertisements for the programme of Vassula Ryden.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing the errors of Vassula Ryden and her deceit, written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries.

I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA and the one immediately below contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

 

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS, EVEN HERESIES]

The document is also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

 

From:
reuben tellis
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: Re: FOLLOW-UP: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN BOMBAY ARCHDIOCESE — AND THE ADS. IN THE EXAMINER

Dear Michael, Greetings!!!

I have just returned to my office from my meeting in Rome and have seen your emails.

I have noted their contents and will discuss the same with the Chairman Archbishop and the Secretary Bishop…

With every good wish,

Fr Reuben Tellis

 

From:
prabhu
To:
cbebishophouse@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:56 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN COIMBATORE

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. THOMAS AQUINAS, BISHOP OF COIMBATORE…

From:
prabhu
To:
cbebishophouse@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:10 AM

Subject: FOLLOW-UP: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN BOMBAY ARCHDIOCESE — AND THE ADS. IN THE EXAMINER

Dear Bishop Thomas,

This is a follow-up to my as yet unacknowledged letters to you of November 24, 2012.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing the errors of Vassula Ryden and her deceit, written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries.

I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA and the one immediately below contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS, EVEN HERESIES]

The document is also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist. Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

THE BISHOP DID NOT REPLY, BUT VASSULA RYDEN WAS DENIED PERMISSION TO SPEAK IN A CATHOLIC INSTITUTION. THE BISHOP ALSO DECLINED TO RELEASE A TAMIL VERSION OF TLIG MESSAGES.

 

From:
prabhu
To:
bpstephen2009@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:07 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN ALLEPPEY, KERALA

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. STEPHEN ATHIPOZHIYIL, BISHOP OF ALLEPPEY… 

From:
prabhu
To:
cardinal@ernakulamarchdiocese.org ; majorarchbishop@hotmail.com ; majorarchbishop@dataone.in ; majorarchbishop@gmail.com ; bpalencherry@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:11 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN ALLEPPEY, KERALA

KIND ATTENTION

HIS EMINENCE CARDINAL MAR GEORGE ALENCHERRY, MAJOR ARCHBISHOP OF ERNAKULAM-ANGAMALY 

MEMBER,
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH… 

 

From:
prabhu
To:
sebaady@gmail.com ; sebastianad@ernakulamarchdiocese.org

Cc:
secretary@ernakulamarchdiocese.org
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:13 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN ALLEPPEY, KERALA

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. MAR SEBASTIAN ADAYANTHRATH, AUXILIARY BISHOP OF ERNAKULAM-ANGAMALY… 

From:
prabhu
To:
bpchakiath@gmail.com ; bpchakiath@ernakulamarchdiocese.org ;

Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:16 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN ALLEPPEY, KERALA

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. THOMAS CHAKIATH, AUXILIARY BISHOP OF ERNAKULAM-ANGAMALY…  

From:
prabhu
To:
puthurbosco@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:21 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN ALLEPPEY, KERALA

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. MAR BOSCO PUTHUR, CURIA BISHOP OF ERNAKULAM-ANGAMALY…

 

From:
prabhu
To:
Fr.Dheeraj Sabu ; frdsabu@gmail.com ; dheerajsabu@gmail.com ; anand mathew ; Harshit Dev IMS ; Harshit Dev IMS ; imsanand@gmail.com ; chirafra@rediffmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:52 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN IMS RETREAT CENTRE, ALLEPPEY

KIND ATTENTION

Rev. Fr. Prashanth IMS, Fr Dheeraj Sabu, Fr Harshit Dev and others…

 

From:
prabhu
To:
Archbishop Lucas Sirkar
Cc:
abishop26@rediffmail.com ; sraphael55@gmail.com

Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:30 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN CALCUTTA ARCHDIOCESE AND KHARAGPUR

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. THOMAS D’SOUZA, ARCHBISHOP OF CALCUTTA 

CC: MOST REV. HENRY D’SOUZA, ARCHBISHOP EMERITUS OF CALCUTTA 

CC: MOST REV. LUCAS SIRKAR, SDB, ARCHBISHOP EMERITUS OF CALCUTTA

CC: Fr. Stephen Raphael…

From:
prabhu
To:
Archbishop Lucas Sirkar ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; sraphael55@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:20 AM Subject: FOLLOW-UP: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN CALCUTTA ARCHDIOCESE AND KHARAGPUR

Dear Bishop D’Souza, Emeritus Bishops, and Reverend Father Stephen Raphael, who represents TLIG in West Bengal,

This is a follow-up to my as yet unacknowledged letter to you of November 24, 2012.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing the errors of Vassula Ryden and her deceit, written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries.

I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA and the one immediately below contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS, EVEN HERESIES]

The document is also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

From:
prabhu
To:
abishop26@rediffmail.com ; bishopjal@yahoo.com ; bishjal@gmail.com

Cc:
brbcouncil@gmail.com ; fr.raajjoo@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:25 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN KOLKATA AND KHARAGPUR

KIND ATTENTION

The Bengal Regional Bishops’ Council (BRBC)

KOLKATA

Chairman Most Rev. Thomas D’Souza

Secretary Most Rev. Clement Tirkey 

Regional Deputy Secretary Rev. Fr. S. Irudaya Raj… 

 

 

From:
prabhu
To:
abishop26@rediffmail.com ; bishopjal@yahoo.com ; bishjal@gmail.com

Cc:
brbcouncil@gmail.com ; fr.raajjoo@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:28 AM Subject: FOLLOW-UP: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN KOLKATA AND KHARAGPUR

Dear Bishop Thomas D’Souza, Bishop Clement, and Reverend Father Irudaya Raj,

This is a follow-up to my as yet unacknowledged letter to you of November 26, 2012.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing the errors of Vassula Ryden and her deceit, written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries.

I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA and the one immediately below contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS, EVEN HERESIES]

The document is also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

 

From:
prabhu
To:
jsr_bishop@sancharnet.in
Cc:
pajsrbishop@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:08 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN INDIA, DECEMBER 2012

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. FELIX TOPPO, SJ., BISHOP OF JAMSHEDPUR

BISHOP-IN-CHARGE, CLERGY AND RELIGIOUS COMMISSION, CATHOLIC BISHOPS’ CONFERENCE OF INDIA

CHAIRMAN, NATIONAL VOCATION SERVICE CENTRE, BANGALORE  

Dear Bishop Felix,

I understand that the alleged Greek Orthodox “seer” Vassula Ryden is giving talks at various locations in India December 1 through 10, 2012.

She is currently visiting in France where the Cardinal-Archbishop of Paris and Bishops of five other dioceses have separately issued firm warnings to the Catholic faithful to not attend her meetings.

Further, the CDF Notification dated October 6, 1995 signed by its Prefect Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger and the CDF Letter dated January 25, 2007 signed by its Prefect William Cardinal Levada against the errors from the Catholic perspective of her alleged “messages” still stand as “doctrinal judgement” against her writings. They are still valid despite all the propaganda from Vassula Ryden and TLIG to the contrary.

As a Catholic apologist, I thought that I should bring this to your kind attention as you have felicitated her and encouraged her prayer groups, all of who promote an ecumenism and a millennialism that are contrary to what the Roman Catholic Church teaches, and most especially since you granted the Nihil Obstat to the True Life in God messages in 2005.

Additionally, there are numerous other issues and problems with her personal life, “messages” and teachings.

I look forward to your kind acknowledgement and necessary intervention.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

From:
prabhu
To:
jsr_bishop@sancharnet.in
Cc:
pajsrbishop@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:40 AM

Subject: FOLLOW-UP: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN INDIA, DECEMBER 2012

Dear Bishop Felix Toppo,

This is a follow-up to my as yet unacknowledged letter to you of November 24, 2012.

Another fellow-bishop of yours wrote to me that you had “been on the TLIG pilgrimages more than [him]“.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing the errors of Vassula Ryden and her deceit, written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries.

I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc
and the one immediately below contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

 

 

 

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS, EVEN HERESIES]

The document is also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

 

From:
prabhu
To:
ranchiarchdiocese@gmail.com ; cardinaltoppo@gmail.com ; telesphore p. toppo

Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:13 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN INDIA, DECEMBER 2012

KIND ATTENTION

HIS EMINENCE TELESPHORE CARDINAL TOPPO, ARCHBISHOP OF RANCHI

PRESIDENT, Conference of Catholic Bishops of India (CCBI)

Member, CBCI Special Commission for Evangelization

Member, Pontifical Council for Culture

Member, Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples

Dear Cardinal Telesphore Toppo,

I understand that the alleged Greek Orthodox “seer” Vassula Ryden is giving talks at various locations in India December 1 through 10, 2012.

She is currently visiting in France where the Cardinal-Archbishop of Paris and Bishops of five other dioceses have separately issued firm warnings to the Catholic faithful to not attend her meetings.

Further, the CDF Notification dated October 6, 1995 signed by its Prefect Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger and the CDF Letter dated January 25, 2007 signed by its Prefect William Cardinal Levada against the errors from the Catholic perspective of her alleged “messages” still stand as “doctrinal judgement” against her writings. They are still valid despite all the propaganda from Vassula Ryden and TLIG to the contrary.

As a Catholic apologist, I thought that I should bring this to your kind attention as you have felicitated her and encouraged her prayer groups, all of who promote an ecumenism and a millennialism that are contrary to what the Roman Catholic Church teaches, and most especially since you have been associated with her visits in the past. 

Additionally, there are numerous other issues and problems with her personal life, “messages” and teachings.

I look forward to your kind acknowledgement and necessary intervention.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

From:
prabhu
To:
telesphore p. toppo ; ranchiarchdiocese@gmail.com ; cardinaltoppo@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:47 AM

Subject: FOLLOW-UP: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN INDIA, DECEMBER 2012

Dear Cardinal Telesphore,

This is a follow-up to my as yet unacknowledged letter to you of November 24, 2012.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing the errors of Vassula Ryden and her deceit, written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries.

I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc
and the one immediately below contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS, EVEN HERESIES]

The document is also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

 

 

Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

From:
prabhu
To:
diojal5ab@gmail.com ; Bishop Anil Couto
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:20 PM

Subject: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN INDIA, DECEMBER 2012

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. ANIL COUTO, BISHOP OF JALANDHAR [PUNJAB]

MEMBER, DIALOGUE AND DESK FOR ECUMENISM,
CATHOLIC BISHOPS’ CONFERENCE OF INDIA

Member, Theology and Doctrine Commission, Conference of Catholic Bishops of India

Dear Bishop Anil,

Angela sends you her warmest regards, and despite this letter, so do I.

I understand that the alleged Greek Orthodox “seer” Vassula Ryden is giving talks at various locations in India December 1 through 10, 2012.

She is currently visiting in France where the Cardinal-Archbishop of Paris and Bishops of five other dioceses have separately issued firm warnings to the Catholic faithful to not attend her meetings.

Further, the CDF Notification dated October 6, 1995 signed by its Prefect Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger and the CDF Letter dated January 25, 2007 signed by its Prefect William Cardinal Levada against the errors from the Catholic perspective of her alleged “messages” still stand as “doctrinal judgement” against her writings. They are still valid despite all the propaganda from Vassula Ryden and TLIG to the contrary.

As a Catholic apologist, I thought that I should bring this to your kind attention as you have traveled with her in the Middle East, felicitated her and encouraged her prayer groups, all of who promote an ecumenism and a millennialism that are contrary to what the Roman Catholic Church teaches.

Additionally, there are numerous other issues and problems with her personal life, “messages” and teachings.

I look forward to your kind acknowledgement and necessary intervention.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

From:
Anil
To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:46 AM

Subject: RE: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN INDIA, DECEMBER 2012

Dear Mr. Michael Prabhu,

Thank you very much for the e-mail regarding Vassula Ryden’s visit to India. Yes, I have been on her TLIG pilgrimage twice – in 2005 and2007. From my experience I do not think she is promoting an ecumenism that is contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church and she is definitely not propagating a “millenianism” as you allege. She has been “warned” by the CDF but not banned. She has also replied to the notification from the CDF. Whatever be the “authenticity” of her messages she is sincere in her endeavours to bring unity to the Church beginning with the Orthodox Churches and the Catholic Church as both share the same unbroken Apostolic Tradition. Individual bishops are free to issue warnings to the Catholic faithful regarding her meetings as the bishops in France have done (which you have mentioned) but no bishop in India has done. In fact Archbishop Vincent Concessao of Delhi has been on the TLIG pilgrimages more than me and Bishop Felix Toppo of Jamshedpur also.

With warmest regards to you and Angela

+Anil  

From:
prabhu
To:
Anil
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:01 PM

Subject: Re: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN INDIA, DECEMBER 2012

Dear Bishop Anil,

I thank you for your immediate response to my concerns. I had written to many of your fellow-bishops, but the only response that I received is from you.

What you term as my “allegations” regarding Vassula Ryden’s positions on ecumenism and millenialism are actually words selected and used by the CDF and not me. So it is not I who am in error.

Rome cannot ban anyone on the basis of having private revelations, or their propagation, but they can and must warn the bishops and the faithful which they have done.

Regarding another comment made by your good self, I would say that in matters of faith, its the “authenticity” that counts over “sincerity”. As a theologian yourself, you must know that. I can be most sincere, but sadly very wrong [unauthentic].

Again, saying that Mrs. Ryden has “replied to the notification from the CDF” does not mean anything.

If you, as my Bishop, insist that any of my teachings is wrong and, after due study, issue me or to the universal Church an official letter of warning, my simply writing to you against that does not change the facts of the matter.

I have literally hundreds of pages of information to document the errors of Vassula Ryden. The Vatican should be having several times more, coming as it does in many European languages.

If six French bishops have issued a warning letter, and not for the first time, and there have been others too across many nations, it surely must mean something; and, if on the other hand, the Indian bishops have not said anything, it becomes a matter of concern.

 

 

 

How often have the Indian bishops ever come out as one voice or even as a small group other than on a few politically-related issues? I can produce for you many cases where other Bishops’ conferences or Theological Commissions have issued pastoral letters and warnings that the Indian bishops would not even be aware of. Those documents are invaluable for laity like me. My close watch has confirmed that the Indian Bishops have, as compared to the Bishops of Korea, Spain, France, the USA, and even humble Croatia, failed to convey to the faithful the teachings of Rome on dozens of crucial issues, and to protect the faithful from erroneous philosophies by issuing timely warnings. So, I don’t expect them to warn me against Vassula Ryden.

The burden falls on laity like me [Canon Law 212.3] to write to my ecclesiastical superiors and warn other Catholics myself.

What I find, and which is expressed with evidence in many investigative reports on my web site, is that many Bishops who should be my pastors and guides are themselves participants in a great deal of error or complicit in it by their silence.

I am no qualified expert on these issues, but I do apply myself most diligently to the study — and defense — of my Faith.

A couple of hours earlier, I published my first report in a series on the errors of the “mystic” Vassula Ryden. The link is below.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA
NOVEMBER 25, 2012, 26 pages, 1.12 MB

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

The errors of her teachings are not documented therein, but will be in future reports and articles.

Pray for all of us that she will not file a legal case against my ministry and try to destroy me as she has done others. 2 Chronicles 20:15.

God bless you, Bishop Anil

Michael and Angela

From:
prabhu
To:
Bishop Anil Couto ; diojal5ab@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:08 AM

Subject: FOLLOW-UP: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN INDIA, DECEMBER 2012

Dear Bishop Anil,

I thought that it might help if I sent you the following reports that I hosted on my web site since I last wrote to you on the 25th.

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS]

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

Yours obediently, Michael

 

NOTE: Bishop Anil Couto of Jalandhar is now the Archbishop of Delhi, replacing Archbishop Vincent Concessao who has retired. Both of them, as also Bishop Felix Toppo of Jamshedpur and Cardinal Telesphore Toppo of Ranchi have accompanied Vassula Ryden on multiple all-expenses paid “pilgrimages” and cruises. See VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA.

 

From:
Tharu BA
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:42 AM
[FARIDABAD]

Subject: Thank you

Dear Mr. Michael Prabhu,

Thank you very much for the mail, pointing out this serious matter. In fact I did not know of this arrangement.

I shall get in touch with the authorities of the Center and do the needful.

I am happy that you defend the true catholic faith and our beloved Church. God bless you.

Archbishop Kuriakose B.

Bishop of Faridabad

From:
prabhu
To:
tharuba@yahoo.com ; faridabaddiocese@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:21 PM

Subject: Re: Thank you

Dear Archbishop Kuriakose,

I thank you very much for your immediate response to my concerns about Vassula Ryden’s proposed visit to Faridabad and Delhi.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing her errors and her deceit written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries. I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not. Some of the attachments contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

I am an ex-Delhiite and am in lay ministry since over 30 years. Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.

Yours obediently, Michael Prabhu

 

 

From:
Tharu BA
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:19 PM

Subject: Fw: Fwd: Urgent Attention

As a follow up to your mail, I have arranged to have the info below to all Bishops in Kerala.

As for Faridabad, I am assured by the authorities of that Retreat Center that they are cancelling her preaching at the Night Vigil.

If there is anything that I can do in this regards, please do not hesitate to do so.

But it seems that her programs elsewhere in Delhi are still on schedule.

God bless you,

Archbishop Kuriakose B.

Bishop of Faridabad

—– Forwarded Message —–
From:
bosco puthur
puthurbosco@gmail.com
To: Tharu BA tharuba@yahoo.com

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:38 PM Subject: Fwd: Urgent Attention

———- Forwarded message ———-
From:
bosco puthur
puthurbosco@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Subject: Fwd: Urgent Attention To: Franco Mulakkal francomulakkal@gmail.com
Dear Bishop Franco,

I am sending a circular to the Bishops of Kerala by KCBC regarding Vassula Ryden. There is also a notification of CDF. I was told that this woman is going to have programmes in the Archdiocese of Delhi. It may be good that you bring to the notice of the Archbishop the notification of CDF.

Thank you.

+Bosco Puthur [Curia bishop, Syro-Malabar Bishops’ Synod, Kochi]

———- Forwarded message ———-
From:
KCBC Alathara <stephenalathara@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Subject: Urgent Attention To:
Ref: 2591/K-5/KCBC/OL/DS                                                 26th November 2012… …

NOTIFICATION ON VASSULA RYDEN (6 October 1995)

Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith… …

[The same letter as the one sent by the KCBC to me, see below- Michael]

From:
prabhu
To:
tharuba@yahoo.com ; faridabaddiocese@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:38 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: Fwd: Urgent Attention

Dear Archbishop Kuriakose,

Thank you.

As a follow-up to my email of yesterday, I am copying below the links of the 1 report and 3 articles that I sent you.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS]

The document also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

From:
Tharu BA
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:37 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: Fwd: Urgent Attention

Thank you for the links. Have a good day!

+Kuriakose

 

From: “bosco puthur” <puthurbosco@gmail.com> To: “prabhu” <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net> [Kerala bishops]

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN ALLEPPEY, KERALA

Dear Michael Prabhu,
Thanks for the information regarding Vassula Ryden. I have asked the President of KCBC to do the needful in this regard. I think KCBC will notify all the bishops of Kerala regarding this.
God bless you.
+Bosco Puthur

 

From: “prabhu” <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net> To: “bosco puthur” <puthurbosco@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:32 PM

Subject: Re: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN ALLEPPEY, KERALA

Dear Bishop Bosco,
I thank you very much for your immediate response to my concerns about Vassula Ryden’s proposed visit to Alleppey diocese.
On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing her errors and her deceit written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries. I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.
I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not. Some of the attachments contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.
I am in lay ministry since over 30 years. Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.
Yours obediently,
Michael Prabhu

From:
prabhu
To:
bosco puthur
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:37 AM

Subject: FOLLOW-UP OF ALERT ON VASSULA RYDEN’S PROPOSED VISIT TO KERALA

Dear Bishop Bosco Puthur,

As a follow-up to my email of yesterday, I am copying below the links of 3 articles that I sent you.

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION                                                           http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

For the record, I am again attaching the report:
VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS]

The document is also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

 

From:
KCBC Alathara
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:34 PM Subject: Urgent Attention

Ref: 2591/K-5/KCBC/OL/DS                                                  26th November 2012

Dear Your Grace,

Cordial Greetings from the Secretariat of the KCBC!

I am writing this letter as directed by the President of the KCBC to request you to give immediate directions to the concerned persons, not to call Vassula Rydén a controversial Christian mystic living in Switzerland who claimed to receive messages from Jesus Christ and Blessed Virgin Mary. We came to know that some of the Catholic retreat centres in Kerala and some of our parishes had already invited her for preaching.

In 1995, the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith (CDF) published a notification on the writings of Rydén, saying her communications should not be considered supernatural, and calling all Catholic bishops to prevent Rydén’s ideas from being spread in their dioceses. In 2007, Cardinal William Levada, former president of the CDF, confirmed that the 1995 Notification was still in effect; he recommended that Catholics should not join prayer groups organized by Rydén. 

May I humbly request you to inform our priests and religious regarding the said matter and take necessary and urgent steps prevent her preaching in our parishes and retreat centres. Kindly note the notification from the CDF below.

Thanking you in anticipation,

Fr. Stephen Alathara 
Deputy Secretary General & Spokesperson, KCBC

 


Director, POC
Secretariat, Kerala Catholic Bishops’ Council
POC, PB No 2251, Kochi – 682025, Kerala, India
Tel. 91-484-2805722, 2805815, Fax. 91-484-2806214
Email:
kcbc@kcbcsite.com
stephenalathara@gmail.com
www.facebook.com/KeralaCatholicBishopsCouncil
www.kcbcsite.com

NOTIFICATION ON VASSULA RYDEN (6 October 1995)

Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith… …
From:
prabhu
To:
KCBC Alathara ; kcbc@kcbcsite.com
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 6:27 PM

Subject: Re: Urgent Attention

Dear Rev. Fr. Stephen Alathara and the Bishops of the KCBC,
I thank you very much for your immediate response to my concerns about Vassula Ryden’s proposed visit to Kerala, and your action.
On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing her errors and her deceit written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries. I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.
I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not. Some of the attachments contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.
I am in lay ministry since over 30 years. Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.
Yours obediently,
Michael Prabhu

From:
prabhu
To:
KCBC Alathara
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:19 AM

Subject: FOLLOW-UP OF ALERT ON VASSULA RYDEN’S PROPOSED VISIT TO KERALA

Dear Rev. Fr. Stephen Alathara and the Bishops of the KCBC,

As a follow-up to my email of yesterday, I am copying below the links of 3 articles that I sent you.

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

For the record, I am again attaching the report:
VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS]

The document also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

 

From: “Franco Mulakkal” <francomulakkal@gmail.com> To: “prabhu” <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net> [DELHI]

Cc: “archbishop vincent” <archbishopdelhi@yahoo.co.in>; <micolli@rediffmail.com>

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:30 PM

Subject: Re: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DELHI AND FARIDABAD

Dear Prabhu, thanks for the mail. By the way, the deputy secretary is Fr. Arockyadas. God bless you.

+Franco Mulakkal
Auxiliary Bishop and Vicar General of the Archdiocese of Delhi

On 26/11/2012, prabhu <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net> wrote:
KIND ATTENTION
The Regional Bishops’ Council of the North (RBCN) – CHANDIGARH… …

From:
prabhu
To:
francomulakkal@gmail.com
Cc:
archbishop vincent ; micolli@rediffmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:04 AM

Subject: Re: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DELHI AND FARIDABAD

Dear Bishop Franco, Archbishop Vincent, and Rev. Fr. Arockyadas,

I thank you very much for your prompt acknowledgement of my letter to you regarding my concerns about Vassula Ryden’s proposed visit to New Delhi and Faridabad.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing her errors and her deceit written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries. I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

 

I herewith attach FOUR that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not.

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA and the one immediately below contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS]

The document also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

From: “Franco Mulakkal” <francomulakkal@gmail.com> To: “prabhu” <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net>

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DELHI

God bless you
+Franco Mulakkal
Auxiliary Bishop and Vicar General of the Archdiocese of Delhi

 

From:
Allwyn Misquitta
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:50 AM
[BOMBAY]

Subject: Re: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DON BOSCO’S, MUMBAI

Shalom and Peace be with you,
Thanks for letter please call me on 9967384393. Will speak, thanks,

Fr Allwyn

From:
prabhu
To:
Allwyn Misquitta
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:27 AM

Subject: Re: PROGRAMME OF VASSULA RYDEN AND “TRUE LIFE IN GOD” IN DON BOSCO’S, MUMBAI

Dear Fr. Allwyn,

I thank you very much for your prompt acknowledgement of my letter to you regarding my concerns about Vassula Ryden’s proposed visit to Don Bosco’s Borivali, Mumbai.

I just rang your number a few times. My call is not going through.

I do not use a mobile phone. My landline number is 044- 2461 1606.

In case you wanted to ask me for information regarding Vassula Ryden, I am taking the initiative and doing so in this email.

On the internet, there are literally hundreds of pages of articles exposing her errors and her deceit written by Catholic priests and by Catholic apologists and established lay ministries. I am in the process of compiling some of them for my web site.

For your convenient perusal, I herewith attach FIVE that are ready for your perusal knowing that Vassula’s protagonists have many ways of convincing Catholic clergy that she is approved by Rome when she is not.

ALERT: VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA [sent to the Bishops] and the one immediately below contain the relevant CDF Notifications, etc.

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

I thought that you might also want to read Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s document on Vassula Ryden’s theological errors.

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA [SERIOUS THEOLOGICAL ERRORS]

The document also attached to this letter.

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

Kindly remember me when you celebrate the Eucharist.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu 

 

From:
prabhu
To:
archbishop vincent
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 7:45 PM Subject: VASSULA RYDEN [DELHI]

Dear Archbishop Vincent,

Thank you for calling me up on the ‘phone a few minutes ago and for asking me crucial questions concerning the credentials of Vassula Ryden to address Catholic audiences and other issues related to her “messages” and for patiently hearing my answers to them. It is what a good pastor would do.

 

 

As assured to you by me on my return call immediately thereafter, I am copying here below for your study the links to nineteen articles and reports that I have hosted on my web site over the last one week. Each one examines Vassula Ryden, her “messages” and TLIG from a unique perspective. The first one in the list below is a sort of report from me, a compilation of general information concerning the CDF Notification, warnings from 6 French bishops and the support that she has received from around 20 Indian bishops in the context of her past and current visit to India.

The 2nd and 3rd are expert studies on Vassula/TLIG by Dialogue Centre International, a Denmark-based Christian organisation. 

4 and 5 are articles written by a Catholic priest and author who knows what he is talking about.

The 6th is an article by EWTN priest and New Age expert Fr Mitchell Pacwa who critically — and theologically — examined the “messages” of Vassula Ryden at her request. His informed opinion is absolutely negative. Against the conclusion that he submitted to Vassula Ryden, he received a veiled threat from her spiritual director Fr. O’Carroll.

At no. 7 is an article by long-time Belgian apologist and expert on NRMs, Mark Waterinckx.

8, 9, 10 are a MUST READ. 

At 11, Tony-Allen Cucolo is a member of the Reformed Church.

Constance Cumbey at no. 12 wrote the first ever in-depth treatise on the New Age movement.

You may skip the others.

VR’s former Spanish-language web master Javier Lopez Torres’s testimony along with Maria Laura’s, mine and a couple of others, are at the last title and link.

I am in close touch with several of the above authors — from Javier to Constance Cumbey to the Dialogue Centre directors, from Mark Waterinckx to EWTN speaker and New Age expert Susan Brinkmann, either BEFORE the Vassula Ryden issue ever came up in my sights almost a decade ago or because of other common Catholic interests. We share our concerns on the various dangers that beset the Church from time to time.

There is NO individual or corporate move to attack or vilify Vassula Ryden personally. We are more concerned about the errors that she is disseminating through TLIG, the adverse impact of her messages as seen from a Catholic perspective [see the articles below], and the apparent lack of official guidance from the Indian bishops on our Indian Church’s position vis-a-vis the 1995 CDF Notification and subsequent Letters from the Holy See to certain Bishops’ Conferences.

I have completed but a little over half of the articles and reports that I envisage will round off the issue. One report of mine will be a compilation of evidence of how TLIG deceives the Catholic hierarchy by misrepresentation of facts, manipulation of information, etc. Another, VASSULA RYDEN-CHURCH NOTIFICATIONS AND BISHOPS WARNINGS, will be a compilation of ALL that the various Bishops Conferences and the CDF have ever said about her and TLIG. Concerning her response to all of those, since you asked me if I had seen them, I suggest that you please read the pages on her web site since she takes the necessary precautions to ensure that her followers read and believe her side of the story. A third report,
VASSULA RYDEN-HIERATIC OR HERETIC?
will be a collection of information that all the other reports and articles have missed out on. Additionally, I will be uploading articles by others who have critically examined the Vassula phenomenon. 

To affirm once again, in answer to the question that you put to me, Maria Laura Pio is NO Freemason! [I would think that a Mason would encourage and help promote TLIG to enable the destruction of the Church, not crusade against Vassula Ryden’s errors.] That is a most ridiculous charge. Would those who have claimed that submit to you evidence to substantiate that claim? Her family are virtual daily communicants and her brother is a priest. I wonder what outlandish slanderous charge is going to be levelled by TLIG against me. I was warned ages ago that TLIG is so much in the fashion of a cult and that prominent ex-members fear to criticize it, Scientology-like. But that does not deter me from doing what I must do as part of this ministry and calling.

One must remember what Rome has officially spoken on private revelation and know that Rome has otherwise never openly condemned any alleged locutionary, visionary or seer. [http://ephesians-511.net/docs/PRIVATE_REVELATION.doc] However, the Vatican and the local Ordinaries make pronouncements from time to time and must be listened to by those who “have ears”.

Mrs. Ryden is apparently not accepted in her own Greek Orthodox Church and there are many questions about her marriages, divorce, communicating in different Churches, etc.

The Church has seen many great and genuine visionaries but we have yet to encounter one who has public relations personnel, a battery of lawyers, defends herself vitriolically against criticism or opposition, takes fellow-Christians to the courts, and so on.

None of her critics regard Vassula Ryden as a fraud. They affirm that she is authentic! And THAT EXACTLY is what “worries” them the most, if you understand what I am trying to convey to you. I fully share their concerns. The matter appears to be far more spiritually serious than it looks. In the not-very-long run, if and when the truth comes to light, it will be a disaster for many.

I guess that one has to very “Roman” Catholic today to be able to see through the TLIG subterfuge… and there are apparently not too many Bishops and laity around who can be seen to be that. Let us pray that we are not among those.

Yours obediently,

Michael

PS. I have not been able to read through this letter again due to a family get-together, so kindly overlook any errors that you may find.

 

 

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

VASSULA RYDEN’S JESUS-INGERLISE PROVSTGAARD

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDENS_JESUS-INGERLISE_PROVSTGAARD.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-A CRITIQUE-DIALOGUE CENTRE INTERNATIONAL

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-A_CRITIQUE-DIALOGUE_CENTRE_INTERNATIONAL.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-FR FRANCOIS MARIE DERMINE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_FRANCOIS_MARIE_DERMINE.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-RICHARD SALBATO

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-RICHARD_SALBATO.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-JOE NICKELL

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-JOE_NICKELL.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-RONALD L CONTE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-RONALD_L_CONTE.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TONY-ALLEN CUCOLO

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-TONY-ALLEN_CUCOLO.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-CONSTANCE CUMBEY

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-CONSTANCE_CUMBEY.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-NOTIFICATION
CDF, OCTOBER 6, 1995, 1, 112

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-NOTIFICATION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-SGERBIC

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-SGERBIC.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-DANIEL KLIMEK                                                                                                                         http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-DANIEL_KLIMEK.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-CATHOLIC ANSWERS

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-CATHOLIC_ANSWERS.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-EWTN

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-EWTN.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-SUSAN BRINKMANN

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-SUSAN_BRINKMANN.doc

 
 

CORRESPONDENCE WITH NILOTPAL DATTA, A TLIG-INDIA SPOKESPERSON

From:
Nilotpal Datta
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc:
bls@cal2.vsnl.net.in ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; abplucas@vsnl.com; srapheal55@gmail.com; frallwyn@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:31 PM

Subject: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God

Dear All,

If I have known Jesus, it’s because of TLIG…..if I am a convert from a Hindu to Catholic its because of TLIG….everything I am today is because of TLIG….

Hence, request you not to persecute the Holy Spirit, and yes, Jesus & our Holy Mother speaks to Vassula…this is true….like if its true that Jesus is the Son of God and He died for us and rose again from the dead, then the Messages of True Life in God is the Truth….no matter what people will say, blinded by the smoke of the Evil One, TLIG will stand out to shine on the people who don’t know the Good News, and continue to bear Fruit of the Holy Spirit, as the Lord has spoken to her….

The more I see Vassula is attacked, the more I am happy, she will be blessed more and more for being an instrument of my Lord….

Tell me how can a soul who never cared for God, never knew about Jesus, be converted in a moment, in a flash, and be a new person? How can that happen? Is it not a miracle? Can an evil one bring someone to love the sacraments of the Church? I tell you, the evil can mimic God, His words, but It can never bring someone close to Sacraments of the Church, that’s the Proof, as clear as the light of the Sun….So, no matter how much the evil one tries, he will fail, as He is a liar and the prince of all lies……and Jesus who has and is and will speak to Vassula and win Souls for him…..its definite and the Truth, if I don’t defend TLIG, I will be bear false witness, deny my existence….Please see my testimony below and the testimony of thousands of Souls, and millions more to come…..they are the sheep who has listened to His voice and have recognised Him in TLIG…..Is your choice to whether to stand by Jesus or be against Jesus and persecute Him…

 

I choose to stand by Him and TLIG till death….

Message of September 28, 1990:

“Jesus, neither death, nor life, no angel, no prince,  nothing that exists, nothing still to come, not any power, or height or depth, nor any created thing, will ever come to separate me from You, I vow to remain faithful to You; this is my solemn vow; help me keep this vow forever and ever; amen.”

God Bless, Paul, Saved by True Life in God….

True Life in God Testimonies throughout the World http://www.tligmiracles.com/.

http://www.tlig.org/en/testimonies/other/datta/:

Paul Datta from Kolkata, India

All Glory and praise to Jesus!

I was born in an Indian Hindu family in the city of Kolkata. I never knew about Jesus or visited any Church before. At the age of 18, I decided to go to another state, Maharashtra for higher studies. I got admission to an engineering college in a small town known as Kolhapur. My college was in the outskirts as normally all the colleges are. It was in the third year that I suffered from depression within myself and everything was going wayward. As I stayed in a boy’s hostel, everything happened there except God. Somehow through someone I got a TLIG message book, Part IV. I didn’t have a clue what it was all about. It was in 1999.

As I went through the book, all I understood that Someone named Jesus is on the way to His return. As I went on I had a fear deep down in my heart. I was beginning to understand His divinity and realized if He returns now and sees me in this state, it will not be nice for me. That night I felt His powerful presence in my room, and understood that He is my Saviour, and that He loves me. Later on from the messages I learnt that this is called as “The Visitation of The Lord”. I began to look at the picture on the cover of the book and prayed. His Gaze penetrated deep within my soul, and tears rolled down from my eyes. The tears gave me so much relief and joy, that I liked it. The seed has been already planted!

Later what followed, was like a flow of a river. I flowed with the River. I was not able to understand what was happening to me. I understood what is sin and what is not. I got a Bible and started reading. I have read many books before but never ever found a book (TLIG), so divine, so pure and joyful to read. More to come!

During my vacation, I didn’t go home, as usually everyone goes, but went to The Divine Retreat Centre in Kerala. Those ten days over there transformed me completely. I read through the messages, I knew they were written for me. Jesus used Vassula’s hand to write, so that I can read them. Even before I read the instructions, the Holy Spirit inspired me to take Vassula’s name out and put in my name. I wept bitterly for days. I was not able to lift my eyes to the crucified Lord, as looking at the cross gave me so much pain deep within. I felt the suffering of my Jesus. I heard Jesus calling me by the name Paul (I never knew who was Paul in the Bible). I was shaken from within. By then I was totally engulfed by Jesus. His Spirit enveloped me completely. I was able to convey the messages from the Lord to certain persons there. They were surprised of how I knew about their life. The Holy Mother was there during my purification. It took me a single day to learn to say the Rosary and learn the prayers with the help of Our Mother. Jesus, one day, through the messages gave me the Spirit of Unity, and asked me to defend it to the last day. When all of these incidents were going on there was no one who had told me about Jesus or counseled me. All I had was the Rosary, the Bible and the TLIG book. Jesus inspired everything.

In a vision I was assured by Jesus that no opposition was coming from my family and so it was! My earthly mother has been very supportive and helped me a lot.

The best thing that happened to me after knowing Jesus through the messages was the Eucharist. There is so much power and grace that comes out from the Blessed Sacrament! It was because of the Eucharist that I was drawn closer and closer to the Mother Church. When I went back to my home, I surfed the net for more messages and information and about TLIG. The messages taught me many truths about the Church and helped me to penetrate into the Mysteries of God.

I thought that everyone knew about Vassula, but to my utter surprise no one did! In the meantime, I got baptized. And later, I managed to get the rest of the TLIG books.

The amount of graces and blessings I received by reading the messages is enormous and cannot be written down on papers, but can only be felt within. It was out of nowhere that He just picked me up, and revealed His face to me. All I know is that this Love Hymn is true and if these messages cannot change the heart of a person then nothing can. May His Kingdom come! Amen.

Paul Datta
Kolkata,
India

 

From: “Franco Mulakkal” <francomulakkal@gmail.com> To: “prabhu” <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net>

Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:54 PM Subject: Fwd: Fw: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God

Just sharing a mail with you dear.

+Franco Mulakkal
Auxiliary Bishop of Delhi

 

———- Forwarded message ———- From: archbishop vincent <archbishopdelhi@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:02:18 +0800 (SGT) Subject: Fw: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God
To: Bishop Franco Mulakkal <francomulakkal@gmail.com>

From:
agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in <agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in>
*

Subject: Fw: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God To: “Archbishop Vincent Concessao” <archbishopdelhi@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Sunday, 2 December, 2012, 1:10 PM Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

From:  Nilotpal Datta
<itsnilotpal@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 21:31:19 +0530 To: <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net>Cc:
<bls@cal2.vsnl.net.in>; <abishop26@rediffmail.com>; <abplucas@vsnl.com>; <srapheal55@gmail.com>;
frallwyn@gmail.com
Subject: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God
Dear All,
If I have known Jesus, its because of TLIG… …

*Agnello Fernandes is the leader of TLIG in India

 

My response to the open letter of Nilotpal Datta and the copy of it sent by Agnello Fernandes:

From:
prabhu
To:
francomulakkal@gmail.com
Cc:
archbishop vincent ; diojal5ab@gmail.com ; Bishop Anil Couto ; Allwyn Misquitta ; Archbishop Lucas Sirkar ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; abplucas@vsnl.com ; sraphael55@gmail.com ; itsnilotpal@gmail.com ; agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:16 AM

Subject: Fwd: Fw: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God

From:
prabhu
To:
francomulakkal@gmail.com
Cc:
agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in ; itsnilotpal@gmail.com ; abplucas@vsnl.com ; sraphael55@gmail.com ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; Archbishop Lucas Sirkar ; Allwyn Misquitta ; Bishop Anil Couto ; diojal5ab@gmail.com ; archbishop vincent
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:05 AM

Subject: REVISED LETTER – Re: Fw: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God

Dear Bishop Franco and all the recipients of my earlier email letter [Monday, December 03, 2012 12:16 AM],

I have re-written the letter and am sending it herewith to you all for the following reasons:

1. The copy to Archbishop Anil Couto bounced as his mail box was full.

2. I had to end the letter abruptly as we experienced a power outage and the inverter was also due to give out at any moment.

3. I have made some corrections of spelling, syntax and grammar and added more paragraphs, rearranging their original order, in the context of Mr Paul Datta’s letter cum testimony. There has been no deletion of sentences or statements made by me.

I apologize for the inconvenience caused and request you to please ignore my previous email.

At your service in Jesus’ Name,

Michael

THE REVISED LETTER:

Dear Bishop Franco,

Thank you for forwarding Mr. Paul Datta’s testimony to me. I appreciate that gesture.

He had already sent it to me directly about 24 hours earlier.

In response, please accept a few of my observations.

Mr. Paul Datta of Kolkata, while emailing his testimony to me, sent copies of it to the following individuals and email addresses: the Archbishop of Calcutta, the two Archbishops Emeritus of Calcutta, Fr Stephen Raphael of Kolkata/Kharagpur [email address apparently typed wrongly by him] and Fr Allwyn Misquitta, the Asst. Parish Priest of Don Bosco’s Church, Borivali, Mumbai.

Your forwarded email shows that Mr. Agnello of Mumbai, one of TLIG’s leading organizers in India, sent the referred forward to your Delhi Archbishop Vincent Concessao who then forwarded it to you. The referred forward is the very same as the letter from Mr. Paul Datta addressed to my email address,
“December 01, 2012 9:31 PM”.

My guess is that Mr. Agnello was in the BCC of the letter cum testimony of Mr. Paul Datta, having requisitioned it.

Another odd thing is that all the Calcutta addressees are the same as those of my alert and also my follow-up letter on Vassula Ryden’s programmes in West Bengal ofNovember 24, 2012 5:30 PMand “November 27, 2012 8:20 AM“.

What one can deduce is that either one of the Archbishops or Fr Stephen Raphael forwarded my letters to them to Mr Paul Datta.

This is most shocking not because the letter was forwarded by one of them, which I welcome, but because not one of them had replied to me against my legitimate concerns on so serious an issue [it would have been vastly different if they had] but instead sent it to one of “their own”, Mr Paul Datta and/or Mr. Agnello. Mr. Paul Datta’s response was his letter cum testimony in which he addressesDear Alleven though I am supposed to be the principal recipient. Courtesy or a Christian spirit demands that he address me against my alert. A copy [BCC, I presume] of the same is received by Mr. Agnello in Bombay who sends it to Archbishop Vincent in Delhi who forwards it to you who kindly forwarded it to me. 

Even more, a copy of the same was marked by Mr. Paul Datta to Fr Allwyn Misquitta, the Asst. Parish Priest of Don Bosco’s Church, Borivali, who is in Mumbai and outside the immediate loop of addressees.

Again, Archbishop Vincent had telephoned me last evening to ask me a few questions related to my alert on Vassula Ryden. He asked me if I knew Mr. Agnello.

 

Fr. Allwyn Misquitta had sent me an email on November 28 against the same alert and later called me and we spoke on the phone. Strangely, he too asked me if I knew Mr. Agnello.

Now, I had also written to Fr. Allwyn Misquitta onNovember 24, 2012 5:46 PMand again onNovember 28, 2012 9:27 AM“. He did not reply.

All this points to a very organised response to my Vassula Ryden alert, organised by Mr. Agnello, the TLIG leader from Mumbai and some others.

Now, I have written a letter, my THIRD in fact to Archbishop Vincent, on “December 01, 2012 7:45 PM“. He has not replied either.

Fr. Stephen Raphael and the three Kolkata Archbishops were sent two emails by me, November 24 and 27, but they too have not responded.

I can only draw the conclusion that, despite the interest taken by me to caution some of the Church hierarchy and the information presented to them by me regarding the errors and dangers of Vassula Ryden and TLIG, some Church leaders are either decidedly in favour of Vassula Ryden or intend to maintain silence on the issue. On the other hand, some are so heavily compromised that, while avoiding a dialogue with me, they forward my correspondence to the other camp to enable them to orchestrate a response on their behalf as evidenced by the involvement of Mr. Agnello and Mr. Paul Datta. 

I do not wish to comment or respond right now in detail on the conversion testimony of Mr Paul Datta. Other eminent Catholic writers including theologians have commented on the positive aspects of the “messages” of Vassula Ryden [the links are below in my letter of December 1 to Archbishop Vincent] while at the same time exposing their very serious errors which Catholics like Mr Datta would be absolutely unable to discern [considering that even Archbishops and Cardinals have failed to do so; these errors can be determined only by an assiduous and meticulous examination of her history and “messages”, not by pious or superficial reading].

 

There are a few things that I would like to share with you concerning my ministry, things that not more than a handful of my closest co-workers in ministry are aware of.

My ministry came into existence in Coonoor from May 1982 onwards when I was living as a Hindu [after abjuring Catholicism in 1971] through oral messages in private revelation much similar to what Vassula Ryden experiences, except that a spirit entity [what exactly?] uses her hand for “automatic writing”.

Including our two sons, there are dozens of people, living today and spread out all over India, who witnessed these events. We recorded some of these “messages” and “prophecies” on two audio tapes and in a notebook which we preserve.

But unlike Vassula Ryden, we have not used them either to promote the “messages” themselves, my ministry or commercially.

Most of the “prophecies” have been fulfilled. They partly concern my future ministry reaching “tens of thousands”, my mission to “go and speak to the Bishops of Delhi”, the eventual centering of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal in Delhi [your former Vicar-General Fr. Victor D’Souza and several others can vouch that it was virtually non-existent and was revived by my wife Angela and me], etc.

There were miraculous healings [from terminal cancer, witnesses still alive in Delhi], charismatic phenomena of a very uncommon nature [not encountered by me anywhere in India over the last three decades], conversions, etc.

We were confident that God would enable the fulfilment of prophesied things and His instructions in His time instead of our engaging in self-promotion, and that exactly what happened time and time again.

At no time, did we ever promote either ourselves or the “messages”, knowing fully well the Church’s position on private revelation. We too followed the guidance supposedly received from Jesus Christ, His Mother, and the Father, but — unlike Vassula Ryden — in submission to the Church.

Despite rejection for decades, we emulated the other great mystics and visionaries knowing that the Battle belongs to the Lord [II Chronicles 20:15].

As you read that, consider the testimony of Mr. Paul Datta and others on the TLIG site and the modus operandi of Mrs. Ryden and TLIG not just for publicity and acceptance but also to eliminate and crush those who reject or denounce her, and they are many.  

I have written and received hundreds of letters from Cardinals and Bishops especially over the past decade. I have also received many responses from Rome against some of my reports. Without soliciting, my work has been approved by theologians from India and abroad, speakers on EWTN, eminent Catholic and Protestant authors and owners of web sites and blogs, top leaders of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal in India and abroad, and dozens of priests not just in India, but also in Rome.

No teaching authority [Bishop] of the Catholic Church till date has either written me directly or the faithful, warning that any of my writings contained theological or doctrinal error [which all is present in Vassula Ryden’s “messages”]. I have never had to resort to expunging information published by me, making corrections or revisions of incorrect statements, even though my work is often of an unwelcome and unpopular nature. Compare that with the warnings of Rome and of many Bishops and theologians and Catholic apologists about Mrs. Ryden.

About a dozen priests, some of them have passed away, have discerned, even prophesied my calling and my ministry. A few of them had not met me before and/or had not the least idea of what I was doing.

During my “dark nights of the soul” my refuge was the Blessed Sacrament. Once, when wondering if I was really doing God’s will in my writing ministry, I received by a form of locution, Isaiah 30:8 which I had never read before. It goes, “Now come, write it in a book that they can keep, make it as a record, that it may be in future days an eternal witness.” The date: March 25, 1995.

 

 

I received the same message again several years later, this time in Habakkuk 2:2.

I have never had to use subtly veiled threats — as TLIG does — against lay Catholics or a few priests [who generally are in rebellion against Rome’s teachings and “patriarchy”] who wrote to me expressing their disagreement. If you note the opening salvo of Mr Paul Datta’s “Dear All” covering letter to his testimony [“Hence, request you not to persecute the Holy Spirit“], it is typical Vassula to state that opposition to her “messages” is opposition to and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, an unforgivable sin. Critics of Vassula Ryden and TLIG areblinded by the smoke of the Evil One“, a very serious charge to make against fellow Catholics. It is like charismatics accusing the same of those who reject charismatic spirituality [thankfully, they don’t]. Mr. Paul Datta actually goes to the extreme of certifying thatJesus & our Holy Mother speaks to Vassula“, something that even Rome has officially denied or not pronounced!

Mr. Paul Datta equates the holy Public Revelation of the Gospel with the lowly and unapproved private revelations of a human being with questionable antecedents:if it’s true that Jesus is the Son of God and He died for us and rose again from the dead, then the Messages of True Life in God is the Truth“.

Mr Paul Datta rightly concedes thatthe evil [one] can mimic God. Not a few “seers” and “visionaries” have turned out to be delusional, false, even controlled by Mr. Datta’s the evil one[II Corinthians 11:14]. Search the Internet for “False Apparitions” and the like. Vassula figures prominently.

From Mr Datta’s testimony, while not disparaging the genuineness of his conversion, I quote him as sayingJesus, one day, through the messages gave me the Spirit of Unity, and asked me to defend it to the last day.ThisSpirit of Unityaccording to eminent Catholic sources cited by me in my reports and articles AND the CDF isContrary to Catholic doctrine“. That being the case, it would eventually metamorphose into aSpirit of Divisivenesswhich again is pointed out by some of the referred writers.

In his testimony, he writes,All I know is that this Love Hymn is true and
if these messages cannot change the heart of a person then nothing can.Thus, Mr. Paul Datta in the spirit of Vassula Ryden and TLIG precludes all other means of conversion that Christ has endowed His Church with. TLIG is the ultimate vehicle for conversion of heart!

I am reasonably confident that none of the recipients, including the learned Bishops, of Mr. Paul Datta’s covering letter cum testimony detected these contradictions and grave errors in his communication.

All of the above statements of his underline what I join other Catholic apologists in emphasizing: that the TLIG messages of which Mr. Paul Datta and Mr. Agnello are simply conduits or echoes are anti-Catholic.

The links given by me below provide all the required evidence to substantiate my statements. 

Vassula Ryden’s opponents are all under the yoke ofthe evil one“, to quote Mr. Paul Datta’s excessive repetitions of it. A true and mature convert would simply not make such conclusive denouncements. I do not blame him for all that. If Mr Paul Datta were knowledgeable as well as discerning, he would be a follower of Jesus and not of Mrs. Ryden and her “messages”. He would know that there have been many conversions to Christ through eminent Catholics who later left the episcopacy [e.g. Archbishop Milingo, a leading supporter of Vassula Ryden], the priesthood or their ministries and even their Faith, not a few of them embroiled in sexual and financial scandals.

I bring to a close this lengthy missive which I pray you will examine as a true pastor would. I recall the cordial lunch and warm discussions concerning my ministry that my wife Angela and I had a couple of years ago with you and Archbishop Vincent and a few other of the senior priests of the Delhi archdiocese in the Archbishop’s house and your exhortation to me to not be discouraged but keep writing to the Bishops, including your good self. Accordingly, I take the liberty to write back at length to you and to mark copies to all concerned which I discern would be helpful to all.

I am also reproducing below my above-referred letter to Archbishop Vincent, and marking a copy to Archbishop Anil Couto who has just been elevated and given the pastoral responsibility of the Archdiocese of Delhi, his being a supporter of Mrs. Vassula Ryden and her “messages” as per information obtained from the TLIG web site.

The Nihil Obstat given to a TLIG book by Most Rev. Felix Toppo, Bishop of Jamshedpur, in the face of the CDF Notification [WHICH STILL STANDS] has added to the confusion over the genuineness of the alleged “mystic” and her “messages”.

A few senior Indian Bishops have written to me that Vassula Ryden is persona non grata in their dioceses.

May I suggest that the CBCI examine thoroughly the pros and cons of the Vassula Ryden issue and issue a clarification to Catholics much as the French and other bishops have done [my upcoming report
VASSULA RYDEN-CHURCH NOTIFICATIONS AND BISHOPS WARNINGS] stating clearly whether or not Catholics may attend her performances.

May I also request that any one of the many Indian Bishops who have either participated in TLIG pilgrimages and cruises or entertained her in their dioceses to give the faithful their approval of Vassula Ryden in writing.

Till then, for the information of the supporters of TLIG, “What I do I will continue to do, in order to end this pretext of those who seek a pretext for being regarded as we [the Church] are in the mission of which they boast. For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, who masquerade as apostles of Christ.” [II Corinthians 11: 12, 13]

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

PRIVATE REVELATION MARCH 2011, 146 pages, 1.18 MB/OCTOBER 2012, 162 pages, 1.31 MB

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/PRIVATE_REVELATION.doc

 

From: “Franco Mulakkal” <francomulakkal@gmail.com> To: “prabhu” <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net>

Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Fw: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God

Thank you, dear Michael Prabhu.

 

 

I appreciate the efforts you have made to study the matter. Who has time in these days to make such efforts which consume a lot of time! I highly acknowledge your interest in the welfare of the Church. God bless you.
+Franco Mulakkal
Auxiliary Bishop of Delhi

 

Nilotpal Datta replies:

From:
Datta, Nilotpal
To:
prabhu
Cc:
agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in ; itsnilotpal@gmail.com ; abplucas@vsnl.com ; sraphael55@gmail.com ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; Archbishop Lucas Sirkar ; Allwyn Misquitta ; Bishop Anil Couto ; diojal5ab@gmail.com ; archbishop vincent ; francomulakkal@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:03 PM Subject: A testimony from a Jesuit about TLIG

Dear Michael,

I am glad to read your email. I want to reply to your email in details sometime later. However, I want to clarify a few points mentioned in mail below.

Now, you are even questioning the authenticity of my conversion? How can you not be happy if someone embraces the sacraments of the Church? How can a Spirit hates the fact that a wandered Soul now prostrates before the Blessed Sacrament? If my conversion was not true, then tell me how my whole family got converted to Catholicism? I am glad that my sister (now a Catholic Convert) is now married to a Catholic family.

Jesus had taken away the ailment of my eyes during my conversion ( I used spectacles since I was 6 yrs old), now I am not using glasses for the last 13 yrs!!!

I don’t know why Jesus told me to defend Unity till death, you can ask Him…The Church celebrates the Unity Week from 18th Jan to 25th Jan every year…If Unity was not a concern to the Church then why should we pray for Unity during the Good Friday service….at least for the last 13 yrs I have heard the Catholic Church saying this prayer for Unity during the Holy service of our passion of The Lord. (You want to challenge that too?). I don’t think any Catholic should challenge what’s being written in the Missal.

I might not have a profound theological knowledge as you seem to possess, but I know Jesus has converted me through TLIG. True Life in God is a Living Book, no matter what and how much The Evil One will try to throw it away; it will fall and revive the dried Souls, Souls who never thought about God….

Each and every soul who got converted through TLIG has embraced the Sacraments of the Church…..Jesus has nourished them with His Body & Blood…..

I wish fellow Christians should rejoice when a soul gets converted and comes back to Jesus and the Mother Church, and not question them saying that you should not have been converted by TLIG, etc, etc….God has his own plan of doing things in right way…

If you feel that I should not have known Jesus or the Church or the Catholic doctrine through True Life in God, I don’t know what to do or say…I am now converted, what to do? I can’t go back in time 13 yrs and tell Jesus, not to convert me through TLIG, please choose a different way to change me….You can go ahead and pray that True Life in God should not convert people and bring them back to the Catholic Church…..I don’t have a choice, I am head over heels in love with Jesus, My Mother, My Church and TLIG!! Sorry to disappoint you….

And one last thing, Vassula has nothing to do with my earlier mail, and nor this one, I am writing this for Jesus and His Church and for True Life in God (His Messages for me and for the whole Humanity)…..

I am attaching a testimony of a very old Jesuit Priest below (written in 2007), now he is 89 yrs old, and has read the TLIG Messages end to end 3 times :

 

Dear Vassula,

Peace of Christ be with you! Let me first introduce myself to you. I am Fr. Verus Pereira S.J. residing now at St. Peter’s Church, Bandra. I began my ministry here in 1959 after completing my religious and priestly studies as a Jesuit. Though I was transferred to other churches of our Province for some years, I asked my Superior to send me back to this Parish to spend my last years. I have completed my Golden Jubilee as a priest and sixty four years as a Religious. Thanks be to God! I will complete 84 years on 23rd October 2007, God willing.

I am so happy to tell you that I received four Volumes of “True Life in God” from a young man named Paul Datta. As I was reading the first Volume and “Angel Daniel” written by you of the “Messages” you received, I felt some warmth in my heart. I completed reading and meditated on your first volume. I am fully convinced of the Messages. I have begun reading the Second Volume. The more I read and meditate, the more I get convinced of the truths that the Good Lord has conveyed to you and to all of us. I said to myself “I wish I was young to join you to carry on and help you to complete the responsibility which God has given you and you have accepted it.” Yes, Jesus is so good to tell us that by ourself alone we cannot do this task. It is He with us who can accomplish this tremendous task. Nothing is impossible to the Almighty God. He has assured you dear Vassula of His help. Of course, Love of God and love for God always goes together with the cross-sufferings, and even death. Example given by Jesus, the Son of God, if the Master has gone through so much pain and sufferings can we his servants be without the Cross? But even to bear the Cross and sufferings we need His help. And so He marvelously tells us – not I, but we-us go together. And to you dear Vassula, he has given so much assurance of His help that He is in your heart and you are in His Heart. What else do you need? He will never abandon you, are His words. Inspite of many criticisms and persecutions from others, the plan of God will succeed. Do go ahead. My humble prayers will accompany you. Though I am old and physically weak, I am young in heart. Do remember me in your prayers. Thanks!

Yours sincerely in Christ, Verus Pereira S.J.,

St. Peter’s Church, Hill Road, Bandra, Mumbai – 400050

 

 

My rebuttal of Nilotpal Datta‘s arguments:

From:
prabhu
To:
Datta, Nilotpal
Cc:
agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in ; itsnilotpal@gmail.com ; abplucas@vsnl.com ; sraphael55@gmail.com ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; Archbishop Lucas Sirkar ; Allwyn Misquitta
; Bishop Anil Couto ; diojal5ab@gmail.com ; archbishop vincent ; francomulakkal@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: A testimony from a Jesuit about TLIG

Dear Mr. Nilotpal Datta,

I would request you to please re-read my letter.

1. Nowhere have Iquestioned the authenticity of your conversion“. You misquote me. In fact, I have written,From Mr Datta’s testimony, while not disparaging the genuineness of his conversion… …“.

2. I believe that Jesus must have healed your eyes [He has healed me of a medically-certified crippling disease in 1995] but I would be slow to give Vassula Ryden’s “Jesus” the credit for your healing. Again, Jesus heals irrespective of the person delivering the message of Jesus. In all your writings, you keep vacillating between Vassula Ryden and Jesus. In your own words, you are unable to separate your love for Jesus and His Church from TLIG. That is one of the problems with TLIG. If one accepts Jesus, one must accept Vassula Ryden [the bearer of the message]. Historically, that is simply quite wrong.

3. I repeat, theunitythat you and Vassula Ryden propose is NOT the ecumenical unity envisaged by Rome. You need to take a break from reading TLIG and instead update yourself on Vatican documents, encyclicals, apostolic letters, exhortations, motu proprios and the like.

4.True Life in God is a Living Book“? Certainly not. But then again you are not to blame. TLIG has perpetually promoted the “messages” over the Gospel, a subtle ploy of your “evil one”. There is only one Living Book, the Holy Bible. Vassula Ryden’s “messages” are puerile rubbish at the best [to any mature and knowledgeable Catholic at least] and may be from your “evil one” at the worst [which is the conclusion of other esteemed Catholic writers].

5. “I might not have a profound theological knowledge as you seem to possess“. Well, if you are not a theologian, you should refrain from making theological pronouncements AND from promoting TLIG which is chock full of theological errors.

As for me, I have nowhere claimed to have theological knowledge, I simply make available the works and words of the Church and her theologians.

6. Much like Vassula Ryden, you keep arguing your case from “private revelation” received by you. That is not acceptable, not the Catholic way.

7. “one last thing, Vassula has nothing to do with my earlier mail, and nor this one“. I don’t believe that I anywhere accused Vassula Ryden of having anything to do with your email.

8. The testimony of the Jesuit priest. It is NOT A TESTIMONY! It is a TESTIMONIAL!! On my web site there is a section for TESTIMONIES and a separate one for TESTIMONIALS.

Fr Verus Pereira SJ endorses TLIG without stopping to enquire what the mind of the Church is. Sentire cum ecclesia. True Catholics “think WITH the Church” and not “FOR the Church”.

Testimonies lead a person to be a follower of Jesus not of Vassula or any other “messenger”. I know very good Catholic priests who supported Mrs. Ryden and thus misled me into the same error. One such priest was the late holy Fr Anastasio Gomes OCD of Carmelite Monastery, Peddem, Mapusa, Goa. In the case of other alleged visionaries and apparition sites, there have been — and still are — such others. We would be spiritually much safer heeding the wisdom of Mother Church. If Rome one day endorses the authenticity of her “messages”, this site would be one of the first to follow suit.

I note that you have skipped [ignored] all the crucial points where I have quoted you in red.

I would like you to know that, as is always my practice, I will be publishing your correspondence with me on my web site. Whatever I write is on the side of the Faith and the Church. If someone is against what I write, it is necessary that the Catholic faithful is made aware of them. If they stand along with me on what I write, they will not mind and be only too pleased that other Catholics are illuminated as to what truth and error are. I heartily welcome your future letters that will only further highlight the errors and dangers of TLIG.

If you ever are able to separate from TLIG, which is difficult seeing that it is a virtual cult, you will make a good evangelist and apologist because you do not lack sincerity and zeal.

Your brother in Christ,

Michael

 

The following general letter was mailed by me commencing December 3, 2012, first to all the Bishops and Catholic institutions listed in the above correspondence, and then to over a thousand selected addresses from my mailing list. Selected responses are reproduced further below.

From:
prabhu
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:00 PM {onwards]
Subject: LINKS TO ARTICLES AND A REPORT ON VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Dear Reverend Bishops and Reverend Fathers,

I sincerely thank the many of you for your kind replies to my initial alert and the subsequent follow-up letter from me.

I am copying here below for your study the links to nineteen articles and reports that I have hosted on my web site over the last ten days. Each one examines Vassula Ryden, her “messages” and TLIG from a unique perspective.

The first one in the list below is a sort of report from me, a compilation of general information concerning the CDF Notification, warnings from 6 French bishops and the support that she has received from around 20 Indian bishops in the context of her past and current visit to India.

 

 

The 2nd and 3rd are expert studies on Vassula/TLIG by Dialogue Centre International, a Denmark-based Christian organisation. 

4 and 5 are articles written by a Catholic priest and author who knows what he is talking about.

The 6th is an article by EWTN priest and New Age expert Fr Mitchell Pacwa who critically — and theologically — examined the “messages” of Vassula Ryden at her request. His informed opinion is absolutely negative. Against the conclusion that he submitted to Vassula Ryden, he received a veiled threat from her spiritual director Fr. O’Carroll.                                                                  At no. 7 is an article by long-time Belgian apologist and expert on NRMs, Mark Waterinckx.                                             8, 9, 10 are a MUST READ. 

At 11, Tony-Allen Cucolo is a member of the Reformed Church.

Constance Cumbey at no. 12 is the author of the first ever in-depth treatise on the New Age movement.

You may skip the others.

Vassula Ryden’s former Spanish-language web master Javier Lopez Torres’s testimony along with Maria Laura’s, mine and a couple of others, are at the last title and link.

I am in close touch with several of the above authors — from Javier to Constance Cumbey to the Dialogue Centre directors, from Mark Waterinckx to EWTN speaker and New Age expert Susan Brinkmann, either BEFORE the Vassula Ryden issue ever came up in my sights almost a decade ago or because of other common Catholic interests. We share our concerns on the various dangers that beset the Church from time to time.

There is NO individual or corporate move to attack or vilify Vassula Ryden personally. We are more concerned about the errors that she is disseminating through TLIG, the adverse impact of her messages as seen from a Catholic perspective [see the articles below], and the apparent lack of official guidance from the Indian bishops on our Indian Church’s position vis-a-vis the 1995 CDF Notification and subsequent Letters from the Holy See to certain Bishops’ Conferences.

 
 

I have only completed but a little over half of the articles and reports that I envisage will round off the issue. One report of mine will be a compilation of evidence of how TLIG deceives the Catholic hierarchy by misrepresentation of facts, manipulation of information, etc. Another, VASSULA RYDEN-CHURCH NOTIFICATIONS AND BISHOPS WARNINGS, will be a compilation of ALL that the various Bishops Conferences and the CDF have ever said about her and TLIG. Concerning her response to all of those, since you asked me if I had seen them, I suggest that you please read the pages on her web site since she takes the necessary precautions to ensure that her followers read and believe her side of the story. A third report, VASSULA RYDEN-HIERATIC OR HERETIC? will be a collection of information that all the other reports and articles have missed out on. Additionally, I will be uploading articles by others who have critically examined the Vassula phenomenon. 

 
 

One must remember what Rome has officially spoken on private revelation and know that Rome has never openly condemned any alleged locutionary, visionary or seer.[PRIVATE REVELATION MARCH 2011, 146 pages, 1.18 MB/OCTOBER 2012, 162 pages, 1.31 MB http://ephesians-511.net/docs/PRIVATE_REVELATION.doc] [Moreover, Vassula Ryden is Greek Orthodox, not Catholic.] However, the Vatican and the local Ordinaries make pronouncements from time to time and must be listened to by those who “have ears”.

Mrs. Ryden is apparently not accepted in her own Greek Orthodox Church and there are many questions about her marriages, divorce, communicating in different Churches, etc.

The Church has seen many great and genuine visionaries but we have yet to encounter one who has public relations personnel, a battery of lawyers, defends herself vitriolically against criticism or opposition, takes fellow-Christians to the courts, and so on.

None of her critics regard Vassula Ryden as a fraud. They affirm that she is authentic! And THAT EXACTLY is what “worries” them the most, if you understand what I am trying to convey to you. I fully share their concerns. The matter appears to be far more spiritually serious than it looks. In the not-very-long run, if and when the truth comes to light, it will be a disaster for many.

I guess that one has to very “Roman” Catholic today to be able to see through the TLIG subterfuge… and there are apparently not too many Bishops and laity around who can be seen to be that. Let us pray that we are not among those.

Yours obediently,

Michael

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

VASSULA RYDEN’S JESUS-INGERLISE PROVSTGAARD

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDENS_JESUS-INGERLISE_PROVSTGAARD.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-A CRITIQUE-DIALOGUE CENTRE INTERNATIONAL

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-A_CRITIQUE-DIALOGUE_CENTRE_INTERNATIONAL.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-FR FRANCOIS MARIE DERMINE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_FRANCOIS_MARIE_DERMINE.doc

 

 

 

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-RICHARD SALBATO

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-RICHARD_SALBATO.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-JOE NICKELL

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-JOE_NICKELL.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-RONALD L CONTE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-RONALD_L_CONTE.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TONY-ALLEN CUCOLO

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-TONY-ALLEN_CUCOLO.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-CONSTANCE CUMBEY

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-CONSTANCE_CUMBEY.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-TESTIMONIES

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN_TESTIMONIES.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-NOTIFICATION
CDF, OCTOBER 6, 1995, 1, 112

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-NOTIFICATION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-SGERBIC

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-SGERBIC.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-DANIEL KLIMEK                                                                                                                         http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-DANIEL_KLIMEK.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-CATHOLIC ANSWERS

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-CATHOLIC_ANSWERS.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-EWTN

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-EWTN.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-SUSAN BRINKMANN

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-SUSAN_BRINKMANN.doc

PS.
For those who read through to the last, one Bishops’ Conference and a few Bishops have informed this ministry that after receiving the alert they have taken steps to ensure that Vassula Ryden will not perform in their dioceses.

 

The following letter was sent by me to the founder of the Jesus Youth and to over 250 members:

From:
prabhu
To:
Manoj Sunny ; Manoj Sunny
Cc:
jynoida@gmail.com ; jesusyouthmangalore@gmail.com ; jymumbai@gmail.com ; coimbatorejy@gmail.com ; fulltimers@jesusyouth.org ; listadm@jesusyouth.org ; raiju@jesusyouth.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 7:33 PM

Subject: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Dear Manoj Sunny,

I have already sent this email* to you last night by Bcc, but permit me to take the liberty of sending it to you again directly in the context of your esteemed Jesus Youth movement. *The email of December 3, above.

I am also copying this communication Bcc to other Jesus Youth leaders and prayer group members for the following reasons:

Vassula Ryden and TLIG have been the subject of intense discussion by Jesus Youth members and leaders, some for and some against. As I read, I appreciated their zeal as well as the knowledge — of both sides — of the pros and cons concerning Vassula/TLIG and their history of dialogue with Rome.

I read with particular interest the spirited and certainly well-informed defense of Vassula Ryden, but I can confidently assure you that I can respond to each and every point from the opposite perspective. I intend in the near future to make a list of these defenses with my responses, and publish them in an article, since I have also received a letter from a TLIG-India organizer.

With all due respect to those JY who believe in the genuineness of Vassula Ryden and her messages, after conducting an intensive study [which you are aware that I do routinely on every issue that I take up], I feel a great spiritual uneasiness in me about her.

This can only be understood if one examines her and her messages objectively and unemotionally, and in the light of what Rome and those Bishops who think with her [Rome] have to say, NOT Vassula Ryden’s perspective of these events from her TLIG web site, and certainly NOT of those Bishops who support her.

At your service in Jesus’ Name,

Michael

The response to the above is on page 32

 

 

 

 

ANOTHER ROUND OF FOLLOW-UP LETTERS FROM ME TO SELECTED BISHOPS

From:
prabhu
To:
Bishop Anil Couto ; diojal5ab@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:13 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Archbishop Anil,

My last two or three emails to your personal email id have bounced. So, I am sending them again, copied below, although you must have surely received them on the diocesan email id.

Also, this is to inform you that in the light of your testimonials to Vassula Ryden and the record of your attendance at Vassula Ryden pilgrimages from the TLIG site, and other information pertaining to the other Cardinals and Bishops who support Mrs. Ryden as per the TLIG siteI have updated my earlier REPORT along with my own comments added, please see pages 27 through 49.

The URL for the REPORT VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA
remains the same as earlier, which is: http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

In the list at the end of page 49, the links to a couple of later ARTICLES have been added.

A few more articles and REPORTS will be added on in the following days.

Yours obediently, Michael… …

From:
prabhu
To:
archbishop vincent
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:31 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Archbishop Vincent,

This is to inform you that in the light of your testimonials to Vassula Ryden and the record of your attendance at Vassula Ryden pilgrimages from the TLIG site, and other information pertaining to the other Cardinals and Bishops who support Mrs. Ryden as per the TLIG siteI have
updated my earlier REPORT along with my own comments added, please see pages 27 through 49.

The URL for the REPORT VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA
remains the same as earlier, which is: http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

In the list at the end of page 49, the links to a couple of later ARTICLES have been added.

A few more articles and REPORTS will be added on in the following days.

Yours obediently, Michael… …

From:
prabhu
To:
jsr_bishop@sancharnet.in
Cc:
pajsrbishop@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:17 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

KIND ATTENTION

MOST REV. FELIX TOPPO, SJ., BISHOP OF JAMSHEDPUR

Dear Bishop Felix Toppo… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
ranchiarchdiocese@gmail.com ; cardinaltoppo@gmail.com ; telesphore p. toppo

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:19 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

KIND ATTENTION

HIS EMINENCE CARDINAL TELESPHORE TOPPO, ARCHBISHOP OF RANCHI

Dear Cardinal Toppo… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
francomulakkal@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:29 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Bishop Franco Mulakkal,

This is to inform you that in the light of some Bishops’ testimonials to Vassula Ryden and the record of their attendance at Vassula Ryden pilgrimages from the TLIG site, and other information pertaining to the other Cardinals and Bishops who support Mrs. Ryden as per the TLIG site, I have updated my earlier REPORT along with my own comments added, please see pages 27 through 49.

The URL for the REPORT VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA
remains the same as earlier, which is: http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

In the list at the end of page 49, the links to a couple of later ARTICLES have been added.

A few more articles and REPORTS will be added on in the following days.

Yours obediently, Michael… …

From:
prabhu
To:
divineashram@gmail.com ; info@divinedelhi.org ; divinetruthmagazine@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Fr Joby and other Reverend Fathers at the Divine Retreat Centre, Faridabad… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
Archbishop Bombay ; Archbishop’s House ; abpossie@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Oswald Cardinal Gracias… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
St.Pius College ; agnelorg@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:45 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Bishop Agnelo… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
Percival Fernandez
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:46 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Bishop Percival… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
bp_bosco@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:47 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Bishop Bosco… … [As above]

 

 

From:
prabhu
To:
provincial@donboscomumbai.org ; dbborivli@hotmail.com ; bis@donboscomumbai.org ; sjbcborivli@gmail.com ; anthony12873@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:50 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Salesian Fathers in Borivali and Bombay archdiocese… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
gandhinagardioc@gmail.com ; abpstanny@gmail.com ; abpstanny1@dataone.in ; abpstan@gmail.com ; bishopcolaco@gmail.com ; frreuben@rediffmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:53 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Reverend Bishops of the Western Regional Bishops’ Council… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
cbebishophouse@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:55 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Reverend Bishop Thomas Aquinas… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
bpstephen2009@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:56 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Reverend Bishop Stephen of Alleppey… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
cardinal@ernakulamarchdiocese.org ; majorarchbishop@hotmail.com ; majorarchbishop@dataone.in ; majorarchbishop@gmail.com ; bpalencherry@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:58 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear CARDINAL MAR GEORGE ALENCHERRY, MAJOR ARCHBISHOP OF ERNAKULAM-ANGAMALY[As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
sebaady@gmail.com ; sebastianad@ernakulamarchdiocese.org

Cc:
secretary@ernakulamarchdiocese.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:01 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear REV. MAR SEBASTIAN ADAYANTHRATH OF ERNAKULAM-ANGAMALY… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
bpchakiath@gmail.com ; bpchakiath@ernakulamarchdiocese.org

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:03 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Bishop Thomas Chakiath… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
bosco puthur
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Bishop Mar Bosco Puthur… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
frdsabu@gmail.com ; dheerajsabu@gmail.com
Cc:
santvanadelhi@gmail.com ; alexyshiney@hotmail.com ; shineyalexy@gmail.com ; Santhosh Chittilappilly ; salisantvana@rediffmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:07 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Fr Dheeraj, IMS and Santvana friends… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
Archbishop Lucas Sirkar ; abishop26@rediffmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:11 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

MOST REV. THOMAS D’SOUZA, ARCHBISHOP OF CALCUTTA 

MOST REV. HENRY D’SOUZA, ARCHBISHOP EMERITUS OF CALCUTTA 

MOST REV. LUCAS SIRKAR, SDB, ARCHBISHOP EMERITUS OF CALCUTTA

Dear Reverend Bishops… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
abishop26@rediffmail.com ; bishopjal@yahoo.com ; bishjal@gmail.com ; brbcouncil@gmail.com ; fr.raajjoo@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Reverend Bishops of the Bengal Regional Bishops’ Council… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
Tharu BA ; faridabaddiocese@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:24 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Reverend Archbishop Kuriakose… … [As above]

From:
prabhu
To:
KCBC Alathara ; kcbc@kcbcsite.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:50 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Reverend Father Stephen and the Bishops of the KCBC… … [As above]

 

THE LETTER SENT TO TLIG BELIEVERS AND OTHERS ON TLIG MAILING LISTS

From:
prabhu
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:33 PM/9:35 PM/9:36 PM

Subject: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

To: Agnello Fernandes
agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in; Alex Pereira-TLIG Mumbai
alpereiraksa@yahoo.com; Anil Anthony-TLIG Jabalpur anilm_antony@yahoo.co.in; Antonit Joseph-TLIG Coimbatore bajoseph@hotmail.com; Ashley Noronha-TLIG Goa ashmen1@hotmail.com; Ashley & Carmen-TLIG Goa tliggoa@hotmail.com; Beula Gabriel-TLIG Hyderabad beulagabriel@yahoo.com Celine Vieira- TLIG Mumbai-Core Group celinervieira@gmail.com; Christiane Plompen- TLIG Nepal christianeplompen@rediffmail.com; Claire Fernandes-TLIG Mumbai-Core Group clairefernandes5@hotmail.com; Fr. Amarnath amarims@rediffmail.com; Fr. Stephen Raphael-TLIG West Bengal sraphael55@gmail.com; Fr.Anand Mathew anandmathew@rediffmail.com; Fr. Peter Selvan frpeterselvan@rediffmail.com bounced; Fr. Stany D’Souza father_stany@sify.com; Jacinta Fernandes-TLIG Bangalore jacintha.fernandes@gmail.com; Jerlin Sincerol-TLIG Chennai jerlinsincerol@hotmail.com bounced; Maria Martin-TLIG Mumbai-Core Group natasha_martin4@yahoo.com; Marilyn Fernandes-TLIG Mumbai marilyn_101@hotmail.com; Paul Datta-TLIG Mumbai-Core Group itsnilotpal@gmail.com; Prof CJ John-TLIG Kerala prof.cjjohn@gmail.com; Regimon MJ-TLIG Delhi rmj_as@yahoo.co.in;

 

 

Rev. Dr. Dominic Emmanuel cibdelhi@gmail.com; frdominic@gmail.com; svddelhi@gmail.com Sally & Reggie Pereira-TLIG Mumbai-Core Group irinca_18@yahoo.com; Sanjay TLIG – Mumbai Core Group nazarene_j@yahoo.com; Sr Mary Paul mpaulmadathil@yahoo.co.in; Veronica Peris-TLIG Delhi veronicaperis2009@gmail.com;

vj_joseph@parsvnath.com; mariammajoseph27@yahoo.co.in; mamparajoseph@hotmail.com; frallwyn@gmail.com;

KIND ATTENTION

HIS EMINENCE CARDINAL TELESPHORE TOPPO, ARCHBISHOP OF RANCHI

MOST REV. FELIX TOPPO S.J., BISHOP OF JAMSHEDPUR

MOST REV. VINCENT CONCESSAO, ARCHBISHOP EMERITUS OF DELHI

MOST REV. ANIL JOSEPH THOMAS COUTO, ARCHBISHOP OF DELHI

This is to inform you that in the light of your testimonials to Vassula Ryden and the record of your attendance at Vassula Ryden pilgrimages from the TLIG site, and other information pertaining to the other Cardinals and Bishops who support Mrs. Ryden as per the TLIG site, I have updated my earlier REPORT along with my own comments added, please see pages 27 through 49.

The URL for the REPORT VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA
remains the same as earlier, which is: http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

In the list at the end of page 49, the links to a couple of later ARTICLES have been added.

A few more articles and REPORTS will be added on in the following days.

SIMILAR SUITABLY MODIFIED LETTER SENT TO ALL BISHOPS & CENTRES WHO HAVE HOSTED VASSULA RYDEN/TLIG IN INDIA AT ANY TIME IN THE PAST FIFTEEN YEARS OR WHERE PROGRAMS WERE SCHEDULED IN DECEMBER 2012.

 

MORE SELECTED RESPONSES

From:
Nn 1
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:39 PM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Thank you for this info.  There was an excellent European website run by a woman I know, exposing Vassula’s falsehoods, but Vassula took legal action against her*.  The story can be found here.  *Maria Laura Pio of Switzerland http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=14282. Vassula appears to be very litigious, and clearly gets enough money to carry out legal action.  I think she is thoroughly evil. Catholic apologist, England

From:
PRIEST 1
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:23 PM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Dear Michael, 

Thanks for sharing this vast resource on Vassula Ryden based on your meticulous research. I am glad to see you actively carrying on with this battle against the heretics and apostates in the church. 

Concerning Vassula, some years back we had spoken at length on phone about the deception in her writings. If she claims direct revelation and guidance by angels then she should have been perfect in her writings, otherwise it gives people the impression that her writings are more to be believed than the gospels and all that sound Catholic tradition has to offer us and even the magisterium.  

I myself have a personal experience of her deception when she came to Mumbai, India in 2002 and I was asked to introduce her at her rally at Sacred Heart Church, Santa Cruz, in Mumbai and her team members had told me that Cardinal Ivan Dias had approved it, which was not true. Whereas later I realized that the parish priest had given her permission by oversight and since the programme couldn’t be changed they allowed it on the grounds of Sacred Heart Church, Santa Cruz, Mumbai, India. 

Before introducing her I had made my displeasure known to the team members, who kept assuring me that there was nothing wrong and she has the approval of Cardinal Ivan Dias. 

Subsequently, one of the active members, Agnello Fernandes of the TLIG and brother in law of the former (late) spiritual director Fr. Ronnie Braganza even approached me to be their spiritual director and I flatly refused the offer on grounds that her status in the church was not clear to me.

I am shocked at her blatant lies and deception in which she goes about deceiving and the encouragement she has been receiving from the many Indian Bishops, including the Archbishop of Bombay Cardinal Oswald Gracias, who seem to have deviated from the path chosen by Cardinal Ivan Dias. 

Feel free to use this letter of mine, for we cannot allow the flocks to be led astray by the shepherds seeking their own end. 

 

Fr. Bryan Lobo, S.J., Professor of Theology, Pontifical Gregorian University, Rome-with my comments

From:
Bryan Lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:28 AM

Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

I am sorry to say Michael that I personally and fully support Vassula Ryden – theologically and otherwise. I would also appreciate you forwarding this information to all on your list with my name and office:

Bryan Lobo, S.J., Professor of Theology, Pontifical Gregorian University, Rome 00187.

From:
prabhu
To:
bryanlobo@jesuits.net
Cc:
Francis Lobo
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 6:43 AM

Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

 

 

Dear Fr. Bryan,

It is good to hear from you after so long a break. I trust and pray that you are well.

Yes, I have always been aware that you are favourably disposed to the messages of Vassula Ryden. I think that we may have discussed this by email on an earlier occasion*. I appreciate your honesty in stating that.

Yes, I shall surely comply with your request. I will wait for more responses before I post them all together in one of my future reports. It is good that, and in all fairness, Catholics know both sides of the Vassula phenomenon.

Unfortunately, until now I have not been able to locate any theological or serious analytical writings on Vassula’s messages that are pro-Vassula, even if they are not very “professional”. My web master Francis Lobo called me up an hour ago and when we talked, he assured me that he will conduct a search for any such. What I find are testimonials and personal adulation of her.

Meanwhile, may I request you if you have any serious authorship that favours the messages of Vassula Ryden to please send them to me or give me the links so that I may download and publish them on my web site.

Additionally, it would be most opportune if you yourself could give me your informed response to the articles of say theologians Fr Mitch Pacwa, Fr Francois Dermine and others on some of the issues that they critique her messages.

At your service in Jesus’ Name.

Michael

From:
Bryan Lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 5:23 AM

Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Dear Michael,

I don’t have the time to give any response on articles by Fr. Pacwa et al. You may not find pro-Vassula theological articles because it is perhaps taken for granted that the messages are theologically sound. Those having problems with the messages will surely write articles on the theological problems of the messages and that is understandable.

Some years back even after my mother told me about Vassula, I was cautious. I therefore did some research on the messages, the letters from the CDF and from Levada and Vassula’s responses to them. I found the exchange healthy and resulting in a positive conclusion. I in fact found the response of Levada hasty and unacceptable. I then read some reactionary material against Vassula which questioned her theology. I must say I found them immature and unjustified.

As a professor of theology, I can assure you that there are nuances in theology that need to be taken into consideration before giving one’s judgement. There are theologians who are already biased. Their “blinkered” theology does more harm than good.

Finally the Magisterium can make a mistake in condemning a person or his/her work. For example, Padre Pio. In this case it could be Vassula Ryden.

Warm regards and God bless,

Fr. Bryan Lobo.

 

[Our earlier [June 2008] Vassula Ryden-related correspondence:

From:
Bryan Lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:44 AM Subject: Vassula Ryden

Dear Michael,

I was told about your letter against the TLIG of VR, in one site of Fr. Dermine. I read it but found that it is not well substantiated as regards “Doctrinal Errors”. I also read the CDF’s and Levada’s letter and found them unsubstantiated as well, with regard to particular points of “Doctrinal Errors”: there are no specific quotes and comments which is the normal procedure of Vatican notifications. I feel the letters are written in haste. No wonder the Pope later said that the position is modified and Levada’s letter seems clumsy and imprudent. Among the clergy in Rome, Levada does not have a good reputation as a theologian. It proves the Ecclesial axiom that the Church (Magisterium) is human and divine. In its humanity it can make mistakes, in its divinity it is infallible (with regard to Faith and morals although Vat II is extremely precautious about using that dangerous word). With all my respect for the Magisterium, i could say with a little experience that the picture need not be that rosy and clean as it seems.

I would not like to pose as a ‘STAUNCH’ Vassula or TLIG fan, but i would simply not criticise it basing myself on a magisterial letter. I would surely support it in public and also not mind encouraging someone to read the messages. I really believe the Spirit is working through those messages. What do you say?

Bye and God bless, Bryan.

From:
prabhu
To:
bryanlobo@jesuits.net
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Vassula Ryden

Dear Father Bryan,

I appreciate your point of view, and I can understand how you feel, because the Church certainly HAS erred in such matters before. And corrected herself later. Two outstanding cases were the censures against St Pio and St. Faustina.

I believe that I was the one who introduced the Vassula phenomenon to many people in Mangalore in 1997. I still have those video tapes. Thereafter, I attended her programmes at Divine Retreat Centre, Kochi and Goa. I bought and read all her books. I had the same fervour towards the ‘visionaries’ of Garabandal and Medjugorje, and for Julia Kim of Naju, Korea.

In addition, I have material on a number of other such ‘seers’ in my library. I have always promoted anything that enhances Catholic faith. I was doing the same on the net for Vassula when I was contacted by people from three different countries of Europe, all of whom were earlier closely associated with VR’s ministry, and they each had later distanced themselves from her.

 

 

 

When I defended VR, all three of them offered me many reasons as to why I should reconsider my stand. The reasons included CDF letters, etc. But it was not exactly or only that which made me reverse my position on VR. I read all the information carefully, and found that many of the arguments appear to be well justified.

One that troubles me is that Vassula’s vision of ecumenism in her end-time scenario is apparently different from that of the Church. Three streams, the Orthodox, the Pentecostal and the Roman Catholic will fuse and become one [It was that which had actually excited me earlier]. While that fulfils John 17:11, 21 to a large extent, it later struck me that the ideal unity would be the Orthodox and Pentecostals coming home to Rome, the apostolic Church.

I put down some of my thoughts in writing, and replied, and one of the three persons asked if it could be used as a testimony against Vassula on their website. I gave my consent.

I am no theologian. I could be very wrong in the end. So, too Levada and the others. For instance, there are those who condemn Vassula only on the basis of her automatic writing. These people are always anti-charismatic. They consider it as an occult or satanic manifestation. I cannot accept that simply because I have personally witnessed the phenomenon in our family during prayer [one member only had that ‘gift’] and I have preserved those sheets of paper. And also, because we cannot put restrictions on what God can do [or say] through anyone.

I do accept that VR’s writings have done a world of good for many Catholics, but the arguments of those who are against her ‘apostolate’ are also quite strong. After weighing everything, I decided that there was little, but enough, reason for me to believe that I better stop promoting VR. After that, I passed on to a few friends, who I knew were touched by VR, the information that I received and continued to receive. Speaking for myself [and being in ministry], I prefer to follow what’s coming from Rome.

[…] Would you like to add or ask anything? You are free to share my letter with others. Love, Michael

From:
Bryan Lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:29 PM Subject: Re: Vassula Ryden

Dear Michael,

From your letter I gather that you would support VR but for her messages on unity. On the other hand (I don’t want to sound argumentative), your idea of Ecumenical unity when you say “it later struck me that the ideal unity would be the Orthodox and Pentecostals coming home to Rome, the apostolic Church,” has to be clarified. What would you mean by “coming home”. There is a lot of debate on this issue.

In Ecumenical theology of the Church, the fundamental rule is that all the Churches need to unite under the banner of the Roman Pontiff, without losing their identity, and march towards the Eternal Kingdom of God. It is in this that their unity is understood. If they lose their identity, it would be hegemonic on the part of the Roman Church.

You surely may have read some books on Church History. In early Church History there were four main Churches (the Antiochian, the Alexandrian, the Jerusalem and the Roman Church). Each had their own rites and theologies (Greek and Latin), and were autonomous. The Roman Church (because of the Roman Empire) became politically powerful and at times highhandedly treated the other churches, etc. This created lot of misgivings. The Roman Church with its Latin rite was not able to understand the other churches with their Byzantine, Armenian, etc. orthodox rites, like Peter not understanding Paul and the Gentiles. After about 10 centuries, the East-West Schism – 1054, took place because of the egoism and ignorance of the Roman delegate. He played his dirty politics as we have examples of dirty politics played today with regard to Medjugorje, Padre Pio, Naju, even with practically all the founders of the Orders, and Congregations. With such politics the Church was divided.

Today Ecumenical theology (of the Catholic Church), recognises the Church of Rome as the hub of unity while the other churches (orthodox especially), need not lose their identity in fusing themselves into the Roman Church. The Pentecostals after some basic changes with regard to theological matters can enjoy full communion with the Catholic Church but still retain their identity (this is very difficult with regard to Protestants etc but not impossible).

Now from whatever I read in Vassula’s messages I find this aspect of ecumenical unity strongly portrayed. I have not read ALL of the messages; that is why I wanted the letters of Vatican to quote some particular statements of incongruence with the Catholic Church’s idea of Ecumenical unity. So by writing in such a way they are not doing their job.

[…] the Church is human and even sinful. No doubt Pope John Paul II said sorry for many of the sins committed by the Roman Catholic Church. It is mostly the case that after a long time they recognise someone and make him a saint, or reverse their stand on an issue. In our case it could be TLIG, who knows.

Talking about TLIG, I am simply seeing miracles happen all over. Although I don’t hold it above the one and only revelation in Jesus Christ in Scripture and the Church.

I wrote a letter to the Examiner against some Lydia Davidson who wrote against VR and TLIG in the Examiner. It appeared in issue of June 15th. I am pasting it below… I shall await your reply for an ongoing discussion because i sincerely feel that your letter on that site is doing more harm than good.

Bryan.

From:
prabhu
To:
bryanlobo@jesuits.net
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Vassula Ryden

Dear Father Bryan,

[…] I cannot really recall much of what is posted on that website, except what I wrote to you. As things stand, I am inclined to believe that I cannot — with a clear conscience — accept VR the way that I used to initially. But, as I admitted in my earlier letter, I could be completely wrong.

And I for one am always open to listen and learn, and correct my position if faith and reason [facts] require me to do so.

If you have noticed, I do not discuss VR on my website. The matters that I have posted on MY website, I believe in and defend. I can never know as much as you do about theology and Church history, so I have taken in all that you said.

 

 

To tell you the truth, the section of your letter which I have highlighted in blue is a surprise to me.

The understanding that I have about ecumenism, from whatever reading I have done, is simplistic. Other Christian denominations will have to accept some essential Roman teachings such as the Marian Dogmas and the Eucharist [I always see before me Don Bosco’s vision] and submit to the teaching authority of the Holy Father, the Pope in matters of faith and morals. I also am aware of the historic Orthodox schism and that in their case, the adjustments would be minimal. Other denominations might have greater problems because of theological differences, though there has been a lot of work done in that direction especially with the Lutherans and the Anglicans.

[…] Love, Michael

From:
Bryan Lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Vassula Ryden

Well Michael,

Why should that part highlighted in blue surprise you? It is standard Ecumenical theology and historically factual.

Within the Catholic Church, Canonical rites, which are of equal dignity, enjoy the same rights, and are under the same obligations.

Although the particular churches possess their own hierarchy, differ in liturgical and ecclesiastical discipline, and possess their own spiritual heritage, they are all entrusted to the pastoral government of the Roman pontiff, the divinely appointed successor of St. Peter in the Primacy.  The Catechism lists seven rites: Latin, Byzantine, Alexandrian, Syriac, Armenian, Maronite, and Chaldean (CCC para. 1203).

Eastern Rite Catholics like the Maronites and Melkites are following rules that are not in keeping with pure Catholicism but still belong to the Catholic Church. Priests of those rites may marry prior to ordination, but not after.
In short what I want to say is, that they are not “fused” into the Catholic Church. So Vassula is not doctrinally incorrect as regards her ecumenical stand. I see in her messages a great love for the Pope (John Paul II) and that all should unite under him. Anyway I will not disturb you more. With my own work, I will not be able to spend more time on this either, but i want to thank you for your honest sharing and taking time to type those letters. I have shared your letters with Celine Vieira, the TLIG president of India (whom I don’t know personally), who suddenly one day wrote to me wanting some clarifications on some issues and surprisingly gave me your name as against TLIG. I then got interested all the more. In fact my Mum is a great supporter of TLIG. Please say a prayer for me while I come to the end of my doctorate which is always a hectic time. Bye and God bless. Bryan.

From:
prabhu
To:
bryanlobo@jesuits.net
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Re: Vassula Ryden

Dear Father Bryan,

About the part highlighted [In Ecumenical theology of the Church, the fundamental rule is that all the Churches need to unite under the banner of the Roman Pontiff, without losing their identity, and march towards the Eternal Kingdom of God. It is in this that their unity is understood. If they loose their identity, it would hegemonic on the part of the Roman Church] what I meant was that I did not believe that it would be hegemony on our part to insist that the other churches submit to the teaching and authority of ours; and that I did not believe that ALL other churches would have to lose their identities on their uniting with Rome. The Churches that you list below differ basically from ours in rite, and in peripheral extra-doctrinal issues like “Priests of those rites may marry prior to ordination, but not after”, so it poses no problem for them. I think about the churches that have no valid priesthood and no Real Presence in the Eucharist. The Orthodox and Eastern Catholics are of course excluded.

Having come back to the Church mainly through a series of private revelations in my wife’s family [something that I could not find anywhere else in India since that time 1981-82], I still remain wary of any and all private revelation mainly because the long-term fruits of many such have turned out to be bad. It has not been that in the case that I experienced, but it is like that in most others. VR’s private revelations appear to lead people back to the Church. But what I also noticed is that some people read more Vassula than Bible or Catechism [that may be no fault of Vassula’s] and do not progress beyond that. From reading a lot of the anti-VR material, I gather that her following is almost cultic in some instances, and there appears to be a rejection of Church authority.

On my part, if the Bishops were to ban my ministry or impose restrictions on my crusade to expose New Age error, doctrinal aberrations or liturgical abuse, that could be the best thing to happen to me. I would obey and leave it to God to vindicate me. This is what I saw with St. Pio and St. Faustina [The Lord vindicated them in their lifetimes], but not with Medjugorje, Julia Kim, etc. 

I know very well that [your] mum is associated with TLIG. What I like very much about her is that she doesn’t get upset with my sending her material that I receive. She is always very gracious. When I send such material, it is not with a purpose to convince them to switch loyalties; I believe that one must know all sides of a case. I am also aware that Celine Vieira has my email address and has discussed me with others and I thought it odd that she did not write to me personally.

A few days ago, I found the memento bookmark of your ordination. Six years have flown by. What is the thesis that you are defending? God Bless You, Father.

Love, Michael

NOTE: That is the entire correspondence on Vassula/TLIG except for a few confidential or personal sharings.

On June 20, 2008, I had written to Fr. Bryan, “As things stand, I am inclined to believe that I cannot — with a clear conscience — accept VR the way that I used to initially. But, as I admitted in my earlier letter, I could be completely wrong.

And I for one am always open to listen and learn, and correct my position if faith and reason [facts] require me to do so.

If you have noticed, I do not discuss VR on my website. The matters that I have posted on MY website, I believe in and defend. I can never know as much as you do about theology and Church history, so I have taken in all that you said.

 

 

Three years down the line, I retract those words. My intensive studies and research and networking with Catholic apologists worldwide have led me to include the Vassula Ryden problem on my web site.

While Fr. Bryan has argued the case for Vassula Ryden well, basically on just the one issue of ecumenical unity, it still remains that (a) there are other aspects of that “unity” that seriously concern other theologians and eminent priests, and (b) there are a host of other troubling issues [behavioral, moral, spiritual, etc.] concerning the Vassula Ryden phenomenon that cannot be explained away simplistically. She has even been charged by prominent theologians with promoting a form of “New Age” spirituality.

No genuine recognised Catholic seer or visionary ever has been tainted by any of the numerous negative traits that she herself, her organisation, and the contents of her “messages” have regularly exhibited.

All this has necessitated nearly 60 articles and reports on Vassula Ryden being posted on this web site, something unprecedented in our 10 years of Internet ministry, except for the number of reports on the erroneous-commentaries-of-the-2008 St Pauls New Community Bible issue which has now been surpassed.

It so happens that the very next communication received by me after June 2008 from Fr. Bryan Lobo is on exactly that issue, the 2008 St Pauls New Community Bible:

From:
Bryan Lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:22 PM

Subject: Re: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Every Catholic Bible needs to have an imprimatur. I wonder who has given the imprimatur to the NCB. Is it Catholic or Protestant? If the Red Sea Miracle was for a box office effect, then there is something seriously wrong with the commentators because as secondary to the Power of God, in theology, there is even a scientific explanation given. So where faith and science meet in a miracle, it surely cannot be propagated as a fictitious imagination.

Bryan.

30 eminent theologians contributed to these erroneous commentaries. Two eminent Bishops, one of whom is a theologian, gave the Nihil Obstat and the Imprimatur. Yet, the NCB had to be pulled for “revision” after a crusade launched by this media was taken up by the faithful and the media. Theologians can be wrong!!!!!!!!]

END OF EARLIER CORRESPONDENCE WITH FR. BRYAN LOBO, S.J.

 

From:
PRIEST 3
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

My dear Prabhumam,
Thank you for your mail. I am very sorry to go through it. I am now going through the True Life in God – Vassula’s Conversations with Jesus – Book III – Notebooks 32-46.
Very recently an unknown generous lady gave me all her books (totally 8 books). I fully believe Jesus revelations to her and it is clearly mentioned about Catholics’ non-belief and that is why Jesus reveals everything to this Orthodox lady. Whatever may be her shortcomings I really appreciate her.
I would like to know about you and if possible I wish to get the email ID of Vassula. With love and prayers…
From:
prabhu
To:
PRIEST 3
Sent:
Thursday, December 06, 2012 8:53 AM

Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Dear Father,

I believe you are a very sincere and good Catholic and I respect you greatly as I always have.

I have been studying Vassula from 1997 and I was the very first person to introduce her work at that time in Mangalore.

There are now 20 reports and articles on my web site exposing her errors and I will be putting up at least 10 more this week.

Vatican [the present Pope] has issued one Notification against her and her messages and many, many Bishops are banning her one by one. Her own Orthodox Church has disowned her writings and so-called messages from Jesus.

I respect your choice, my brother, but I am only doing the ministry that God has called me to do. God bless you in abundance.

You wanted to know about ME? Well, a short testimony is on my web site. I am sorry; I do not have the email id of Vassula.

Love, Michael

From:
PRIEST 3
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 11:23 AM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Thank you very much for your quick response Prabhumam.  Let me know your website to enable me to know about you more. With love and prayers

From:
prabhu
To:
PRIEST 3
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 12:20 PM

Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Dear Father, It is www.ephesians-511.net. See

ABOUT THIS WRITER – MICHAEL PRABHU

http://www.ephesians-511.net/about_this_writer.htm     

ABOUT THIS MINISTRY 1

http://www.ephesians-511.net/about_this_ministry_1.htm

THE ERRORS AND SPIRITUAL DANGERS OF THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT 1

Love, Michael

 

From:
PRIEST 3
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:47 AM

Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Thanks a lot. God is great. May His name be praised at all times.

 

From:
Nn 2
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Thanks Michael Catholic Charismatic Renewal national-level preacher

 

From:
PRIEST 4
To:

prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:29 PM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Dear Michael 

Thanks a lot for this mail. I had many people in the past ask me about this and I was not well informed to give them an answer. I am sure this will help me lot. Thanks again and God Bless your ministry. Bangalore/Ghana

 

From:
Nn 3
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Thanks Michael, Great work. Keep going! Catholic Charismatic Renewal national-level preacher

 

From:
Nn 4

To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 5:26 PM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Thank you very much dear brother. I had this concern long time back. Praise be to God for the good works that He is doing through you. Jesus Youth leader

 

From:
Maria Laura Pio
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:13 PM Subject: Great work!

Dear Michael, 

I was able today to see my messages and found all your latest mails. Mr Paul Datta is the person who years ago wrote in The Examiner that I was a Freemason! At that time, I requested a right to answer and The Examiner published my letter**.

I’m sadly not surprised that your letter to bishops ended up in the hands of Vassula’s supporters. That is what happened to me when I wrote to the Belgian bishops. I consider however extremely positive the questions and reactions that you have had from bishops who really want to establish the facts.

My brother will be celebrating a Mass for you and your ministry this afternoon.

With my prayers and very warmly in Christ,

Maria Laura
[Long-time Swiss critic of Ms. Ryden till her web site
www.infovassula.ch
had to be closed in mid-2012 following a second law suit filed against her after Ms. Ryden took a trade mark on the name “Vassula“.]

 

**From: Maria Laura Pio <maria31x@yahoo.com> To:
editor@examinerindia.com
Cc:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:09:28 +0530 (IST) Subject: Right to reply – Vassula Ryden
Dear Sirs,
Last week I sent you a mail requesting the right to answer a letter that you published in one of your previous editions (copy of my mail hereunder). I would be very grateful if you could confirm receipt of this letter and advise me if you will publish it. Looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely in Christ, Maria Laura Pio Switzerland
http://www.infovassula.ch/

Letter sent by email on June 26th: 
Dear Editor, 
I kindly request the right to answer the letter of
Paul Datta from the True Life in God (TLIG) association published in your edition of June 14, 2008, in which he accuses me and my website of defaming Vassula Ryden and being “suspect of Freemason connections”. I would like to state for the record that I am a convinced and practicing Catholic and that I have no sympathy for Freemasonry, whose philosophical ideas are incompatible with our Faith in Jesus Christ.
Mr. Datta probably wrote those unfounded and untrue accusations in an attempt to discredit the information contained in my critical website on Vassula Ryden (
www.infovassula.ch). I have always done my very best to publish in my website correct information, citing all my sources in order to allow the reader to verify them independently. In fact, several important Catholic websites and organizations consider my website as serious and reliable.
There seems to be some confusion in your region as to the position of the Catholic Church regarding the writings and activities of Mrs. Ryden. Much of this confusion has been fuelled by Mrs Ryden’s official website and local TLIG associations. Mr. Datta refers in his letter to the dialogue that took place between Mrs Ryden and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) in 2002. But this dialogue did not result in a reversal of the Church’s negative assessment of 1995, and the Notification was neither modified nor reversed. However, Mrs Ryden’s organization published a booklet in which this dialogue was presented as the proof that the 1995 Notification was no longer valid and that Vassula benefited from the approval of the CDF.
This booklet titled “Clarifications with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith” was widely spread among the Catholic clergy. That is why in January 2007 the CDF had to send a letter to all the Episcopal conferences in the world confirming the validity of the negative doctrinal judgment expressed in the 1995 Notification and advising against the participation of the faithful in TLIG prayer groups.

 

 

A copy of the original letter bearing the signature of the Prefect of the CDF (Cardinal Levada, personally chosen by our Pope for that position) can be seen on my website. This information was widely relayed by major Catholic news agencies during the Summer of 2007.
Warmly in Christ,
Maria Laura Pio, Webmaster of
www.infovassula.ch, Switzerland
From:
Maria Laura Pio
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:55 PM

Subject: Re: Regarding Vassula Ryden/MY CORRESPONDENCE WITH TLIG-INDIA

Dear Michael, I just read your mail and see that at the end Cardinal Oswald Gracias informs you that he has already contacted the CDF. I understand that he will be clear with Vassula regarding the Church’s position. Unfortunately, I am not optimistic about how Vassula will present to her followers this meeting with the Cardinal.

Maria Laura 

 

From:
Manoj Sunny
To:
prabhu
Cc:
raiju varghese
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:54 PM

Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Dear Michael Prabhu,

Thank you very much for your mail. Hope you are keeping fine. Yes, I received both the mails. We are well aware of the confusions with the messages of Vassula Ryden and as a movement, we will not organise any programmes with her. Thank you for your concern and inputs. 

God Bless, Manoj [Founder, The Jesus Youth Movement] See my letter on page 23

 

Catholic charismatic lay preacher and New Age expert in deliverance ministry, London

From:
Nn 5
To:

michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 4:52 AM

Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA [EDITED]

Dear Michael,

Yesterday, it must have been the time you posted this article, I was seriously thinking about the Vassula problem. In the beginning of the CCR the Lord gave me a prophecy (I’m in CR since January 1975). He said: I am sending you this spiritual renewal of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, so that the elect may not be lost.

Lucifer tries with subterfuge methods to undermine the Roman Church, using our Tradition, Liturgy, and ordained people, so that the elect will be lost: It feels and looks so Catholic! they say.
Since many of our brothers and sisters hate to get involved with the real work of the Lord, “EVANGELISATION” guided by our specific gifts, which to follow through is often more uncomfortable then comfortable – Satan has easy game.
Now in 1976 I brought this CCR to my Viennese friend, who was married to a Scottish Lord, Johnny. He took to it like a fish to water, not so his wife! He brought one day (I think from France, I can’t fully recall the story) Vassula to our prayer group. That was in Westminster, which group I had helped to grow. Till today it meets with about 800 people in the Centre of London.

My recollection is very vivid: I sat in the first row, being one of the leaders. Vassula was in front speaking into the mike. She neither smiled or communicated to anyone by eye contact or otherwise.
When I looked at her she avoided my gaze constantly and I concluded that she is not of God. This is a very simple gift I have got. Sai Baba could not even carry on speaking, broke out in a temper and said he does not give darshan that day. Rajneesh had an even stronger temper and forced me to wear a red cape when coming into the “audience room” where
about 800-1000 people followed his rather intelligent, but dishonest quoting of all major European philosophers. When I started praying in my heart (this was 1981/2), like at Sai Baba’s place, he stopped and furiously left the stage. The same also happened in 1983 in a spiritualist church, where the master made operation without incisions, in the Philippines, near Baguio. He could not proceed and the blood lumps, he apparently had taken out from the stomach of a cancer patient, disappeared there and then (hypnosis I concluded).

Going back to Vassula, I was quite new to my gifts, but had already learned that the strong presence of the Holy Spirit, by praying in tongues, even in my heart, made the evil manifest itself. It was, so to say, forced to appear. Now that was enough from Vassula. I have her automatic writing in my house, among the other false proclamations.
Last time Fr Rufus was in Potta [Divine Retreat Centre, Muringoor, Kerala, run by the Vincentian congregation], he sat next to Vassula. I do not think he was convinced about her, but he never, ever criticized anyone. When I asked him, he kept silent, which to me meant “not ok”. That of course is my perception. […] I am curious now about your analysis of Vassula. When I look at her on the photo with Fr Rufus in Potta, I feel she is possessed by a spirit entity who pretends to be Jesus. How this is possible, I cannot explain, but the AntiChrist does the same. Even her looks has completely changed from that first talk she give in London.

 

Fr Justo Lofeudo, M.S.E., France

Father is a Missionary of the Most Holy Eucharist, a French community, totally devoted to promote and establish chapels of Perpetual Adoration across Europe. Note that this letter from Fr. Justo is in response NOT to my alert on Vassula Ryden but to an introductory letter sent to him by me two weeks in advance of the alert. Vassula Ryden was nowhere mentioned in my introductory letter but Fr. Justo writes about her!

 

 

From:
prabhu
To:
Fr. Justo Lofeudo

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:22 AM

Subject: FROM INDIA, INTRODUCING MYSELF…

From:
Fr. Justo Lofeudo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:58 PM

Subject: Re: FROM INDIA, INTRODUCING MYSELF

Dear Michael,

I apologize for the delay in answering you.

In a few minutes from now, I will celebrate Mass and you and your family will be present.

This is the time, time of great confusion created by Satan, that the Church needs apologists like you. And not only prophets who proclaim the Gospel but who denounce the error and evil that surrounds us. I often see that when touched issues like false seers such as Catalina Rivas or Vassula Ryden, I’m attacked. Same with yoga, which in the West, as you very well know, is being considered as an exercise (!) Or homeopathy. We are in the spiritual battle and we need to speak up and also to pray and pray. I pray for you, you pray for me and my Perpetual Adoration’s missión.

I bless you and your family

P. Justo Antonio Lofeudo MSE, France

 

RESPONSE FROM CARDINAL OSWALD GRACIAS, BOMBAY

From:
Archbishop Bombay
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:35 AM

Subject: Regarding Vassula Ryden

Dear Michael
Please find attached the reply of Cardinal Oswald Gracias to your letter through the email dated 27 Nov and 3 Dec 2012. 
With kind regards and best wishes,

Yours sincerely in Christ,

Fr Emmanuel K.T.
Addl. Secretary to the Archbishop
Archdiocese of Bombay

 

December 5, 2012

Dear Mr. Prabhu,

    Thank you for your letter of November 27 and December 3, 2012 regarding Vassula Ryden. I appreciate you taking the trouble of writing to me.

    I have been in touch with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith regarding this matter and had discussed the matter with Cardinal Levada more than once.

    I had brought the comments of the Congregation to her notice and told her that I disagree with some of her claims. She is coming to see me and I will tell her the same.

    Do continue to pray for the Church in India and for me.

    With kind regards and best wishes,

                         Yours sincerely,

                          X
Oswald Cardinal Gracias

                         Archbishop of Bombay

I REPLY TO THE CARDINAL:

From:
prabhu
To:
Archbishop Bombay ; Archbishop’s House ; abpossie@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:28 PM

Subject: Re: Regarding Vassula Ryden/MY CORRESPONDENCE WITH TLIG-INDIA

Dear Cardinal Oswald Gracias,

I thank you for your email of a couple of hours ago.

I greatly appreciate your taking an interest in this issue which is of serious pastoral concern.

I am pleased to note that you will be meeting Mrs. Vassula Ryden to discuss with her your concerns.

May I request you to please peruse the first nine articles [nos. 2 through 10] against the links that I sent you in my letter of December 3 [The first one is my own “alert”].

Theological and doctrinal error apart, Mrs. Ryden appears to be a most devious person, unlike any approved seer or visionary. I have uncovered a maze of lies and deception, manipulation and threats, misrepresentations and exaggerations, and much more, and all these are being documented by me in a series of reports that are about half-way through. Besides that, a few more articles written by other Catholics will soon be published by me.

From my research, the bottom line is that Mrs. Ryden’s “messages” are, beyond any shadow of doubt, not in conformity with Church teaching and the full and final revelation in Scripture.

Until the time the remaining reports are ready for publication, I take the liberty of copying to you here below some correspondence between TLIG India and me. Your careful reading of it is deemed necessary for two reasons:

1. Bombay archdiocese parties are involved in the correspondence, viz. Fr. Allwyn Misquitta and Mr. Agnello Fernandes

2. My rebuttal of some of the points of Mr. Paul Datta’s two letters exemplifies some erroneous TLIG positions and beliefs.

3. Their “networking” to fight those who oppose them is exposed. [I have received a letter from Maria Laura Pio of Switzerland — a long-time Catholic critic of Mrs. Ryden whose web site she forced to shut down after launching a civil suit against her — that it is the same Paul Datta who has accused her in “The Examiner” of being a Freemason.

 

In one upcoming report, I have documented very clearly the the rejoicing of Mrs. Ryden on her TLIG web site over the fact that Catholics, including clergy and religious, attended her speaking engagements in Goa on two different visits despite the ban on her by the then Archbishop of Goa, Most Rev. Raul Gonsalves!

God bless you. Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

THE REPRODUCED CORRESPONDENCE:

1. From:
Nilotpal Datta
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc:
bls@cal2.vsnl.net.in ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; abplucas@vsnl.com ; srapheal55@gmail.com ; frallwyn@gmail.com

Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:31 PM Subject: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God… …

2. From:
prabhu
To:
“Bishop X”
Cc:
agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in ; itsnilotpal@gmail.com ; abplucas@vsnl.com ; sraphael55@gmail.com ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; Archbishop Lucas Sirkar ; Allwyn Misquitta ; Bishop Anil Couto ; diojal5ab@gmail.com ; archbishop vincent
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:05 AM

Subject: REVISED LETTER – Re: Fw: I am Catholic today because of True Life in God… …

3. From:
Datta, Nilotpal
To:
prabhu
Cc:
agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in ; itsnilotpal@gmail.com ; abplucas@vsnl.com ; sraphael55@gmail.com ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; Archbishop Lucas Sirkar ; Allwyn Misquitta ; Bishop Anil Couto ; diojal5ab@gmail.com ; archbishop vincent ; francomulakkal@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:03 PM Subject: A testimony from a Jesuit about TLIG… …

4.
From:
prabhu
To:
Datta, Nilotpal
Cc:
agnellojferns@yahoo.co.in ; itsnilotpal@gmail.com ; abplucas@vsnl.com ; sraphael55@gmail.com ; abishop26@rediffmail.com ; Archbishop Lucas Sirkar ; Allwyn Misquitta ; Bishop Anil Couto ;
diojal5ab@gmail.com ; archbishop vincent“Bishop X”
; Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 3:25 PM… …
END

 

A REMINDER FROM ME:

From:
prabhu
To:
Archbishop Bombay ; Archbishop’s House ; abpossie@gmail.com

Cc:
editor@examiner.in ; mail@examiner.in
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 2:27 PM

Subject: FOLLOW-UP OF MY LETTER OF December 05, 2012 1:28 PM

Dear Cardinal Oswald Gracias,

I have yet to receive your acknowledgement of my subject-referred letter regarding Vassula Ryden. I noted with approval your statement that you “disagree with some of her claims“. I would like to know the outcome of your meeting with her to compare it with what she will write concerning it on her TLIG site.

Meanwhile, I am copying below extracts from pages 15 through 17 and 38 through 42 of my current — and as yet unpublished — report VASSULA RYDEN-A CDF NOTIFICATION, BISHOPS WARNINGS AND THEOLOGICAL CRITIQUES.

I would like you to read what she has written on her site about her June 2008 meeting with you and what she has published regarding Fr. Anthony Charanghat and the January 1998
The Examiner cover story on her and the Church’s Christian Unity week. 

If Fr. Anthony Charanghat
[editor of TE] disagrees with Vassula Ryden’s version of events, may I request that he responds with the true version of it?

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu

 

THE CARDINAL REPLIES:

From:
Archbishop Bombay
To:

michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 1:51 PM

Subject: Reply

December 7, 2012

E-mail to Michael Prabhu

Dear Michael,

This has reference to your email of December 7, 2012 regarding Vassula Ryden.

I did reiterate to her the objections which the Congregation and I had about her messages.  I am in touch with the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith and will share with them the situation when I next go to Rome.

I am passing on your email to Fr Tony Charanghat.

With kind regards and best wishes and wish you all the joys of Christmas.

Yours sincerely in Christ,

+ Oswald Cardinal Gracias

Archbishop of Bombay

 

From:
Nn 6
To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:55 PM

Subject: RE: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

+Hi Michael, I have heard negative things regarding her also. Thank you for the information. USA

 

From:
Nn 7
To:
maria31x@yahoo.com
Cc:
michael prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:30 PM

Subject: Regarding about Vassula Ryden

 

 

I have read the contents through Mr. Michael Prabhu who is in touch with me on regular basis. In fact Vassula was in Mumbai on 4th Dec at Borivali, but when people are not aware of certain teaching it becomes difficult to talk to them. I am happy that you people have exposed the nonsense going on. In fact what is mentioned in the Bible is true that in the end many false prophets would come out, but our duty as true Christians is to follow the teaching of the Catholic Church. I am thankful that the Lord helps us to be cautioned of these people. Thanks a lot to you and also to Michael for his good work.

ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THE ARCHBISHOP OF FARIDABAD

From:
Tharu BA
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:04 PM Subject: Re: LINKS TO ARTICLES AND A REPORT ON VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Prabhu,

My timely intervention prevented her entering any institution in the diocese of Faridabad. In fact, under my instruction the scheduled program in the Faridabad Night Vigil is cancelled. It was not easy, but we made it.

I had also alerted and effectively brought out a Circular by KCBC. But I heard that she had made public appearances elsewhere in Delhi.

Thank you for your attention.

+Kuriakose

From:
prabhu
To:
Tharu BA
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 11:46 PM Subject: Re: LINKS TO ARTICLES AND A REPORT ON VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Dear Archbishop Kuriakose,

Thank you for sharing this good news with me.

Yes, I too had got a copy of the KCBC letter from them. Congratulations in the Lord.

Your Grace, I have had my moments of doubt, whether it is possible that I am wrong about Vassula Ryden and that she is genuinely an instrument of the Lord. But, always discerning the Lord’s Will for me and my ministry for three decades, I have never, by His grace, been wrong about anything. And, in the last three days, I have uncovered so much of error and spiritual darkness in her conduct and her TLIG that I know that we are not wrong but correct in our conclusions, no matter what a few priests and Bishops may have to say in her favour. They do that because they do not know — or do not want to hear — the truth about her.

Archbishop Vincent Concessao of Delhi, my good friend, has compromised himself on the issue*. Also, the TLIG India core team is very close to him and they have unloaded a lot of false information on him and he was put in a tight spot. He telephoned me but I could sense his inability to take the right decision.

I have some correspondence that I want to share with you right now, but I am not doing it only because I do not want to impose myself on you any further. However, if you give me your kind permission, I will copy that correspondence to you. By reading it you will understand Vassula Ryden and TLIG even better, in case you want to. I await your response to that. Good night.

At your service in Jesus’ Name, Michael

[*By joining Vassula Ryden‘s all-expenses paid pilgrimage tours –Michael]

 

From:
Javier Lopez Torres
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: LINKS TO ARTICLES AND A REPORT ON VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Dear Michael 

I remember a discussion where Fr. Justo Lofeudo told me once why he doubted on Vassula from the first time. There never were apparitions of Our Lady to Orthodox people!!!

I am very happy to see the response you are having from the bishops with your correspondence.

May God bless you and your mission! Javier, Spain [Former Spanish language web master of Vassula Ryden. His testimony is available in the TESTIMONIES article at our web site]

 

From:
Nn 8
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:56 PM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Thanks Michael for your valuable insights. May God Bless your Ministry. Mumbai

 

THE JESUS YOUTH MOVEMENT, BANGALORE

From:
Nn 9
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 9:51 AM

Subject: Fwd: [Saturday Night Vigil] Fwd: Fw: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

———- Forwarded message ———- From: Name withheld <namewithheld.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:51 AM Subject: [Saturday Night Vigil] Fwd: Fw: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA To: night vigil <nightvigil@yahoogroups.com>, jy_tob@googlegroups.com

———- Forwarded message ———- From: prabhu <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net> Date: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:45 PM
Subject: Fw: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA… …

 

From:
Nn 10
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Hi Michael,
Thank you for the excellent work you are doing in the Lord’s vineyard. I was disheartened when I heard that Vassula Ryden was allowed to speak to the Mumbai Catholic faithful.
During the year of faith… every alternate Sunday’s a “faith-based session” to deepen our faith is conducted by two very good priests – Fr. Clarence and Fr. Lawrence. They are so deeply rooted in the Catholic faith and are humble men of God, taking active steps and measures to bring the Catholic Teachings to us. I am so grateful to God for this! Yesterday the topic in discussion was “Freemasonry”. And guess what, I saw much of the resources taken from your website – and it indeed brought a smile to my face! Thank you! And may God bless you and reward you abundantly! Mumbai

 

From:
Javier Lopez Torres
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:00 AM

Subject: Re: UPDATE: VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Michael 

Congratulations! You are seeing the fruits of your big work! I am very happy for Kerala!

Sometimes one thinks how great is God, how the Holy Spirit acts! It’s a true miracle that Maria Laura, you and me, we are all in touch. Praise the Lord! May God bless you! Javier, Spain

 

From:
Nn 11
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Thank you, Michael.  Would you also have an update on Maria Valtorta {Poem of the Man God}. God bless your Ministry!

From:
Nn 11
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Fw: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Dear Michael,

I had forwarded your message to a few other groups and did get thank you messages from a few of them there as well. I totally agree with your views — when we have the sacraments why go after every sensational news???? And that’s exactly what I tell all the others. Just go to the Holy Mass and to Eucharistic adoration and the sacraments. Stick to the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Lives of Saints and other authentic Catholic teachings and devotions. Why go after other things when we have it all here in the Catholic Church. Thank you very much. Another point I am trying to gather information on is the teaching on ancestral curses and family tree healing so that I can educate others better on it. As far as I know there is no teaching from the Catholic Church on it, but the focus is mostly on the sacraments which confer the grace of redemption. If you have done any study on this would be great if you share some information. 

I really appreciate all your good work! May the good LORD bless your ministry abundantly and our Blessed Mother be with you always. Bangalore

 

From:
Nn 12
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: RE: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HER CURRENT VISIT TO INDIA

Well done my dear Michael, well done. Once again I got my net working and I see your mails which I long for, now that I’m studying to be a priest. It comes as a beacon of light. Seminarian

 

From:
Derrick D’Costa
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 7:42 PM

Subject: Re: A BLESSED CHRISTMAS/THE VASSULA RYDEN ISSUE

Dear Michael

I did read with interest the Ryden articles. It’s really heartening to see your determination to fight for our Holy Faith. I pray God sends you and Angela his healing touch this Christmas. God bless Derrick, Bahrain

 

From:
Maria Laura Pio
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: …FOR “ARTICLES” SECTION…

Dear Michael,

I think you did a splendid job! I had forgotten about that mail I had sent you about the Australian TLIG testimony, and I am not surprised that you found him now endorsing a New Age group. Good research!

I went through the list of the 28 articles. I ignored the existence of several of them. I see you included the article of Joe Nickell. I consider Nickell’s article one of the most interesting, since he is a recognized expert on debunking claims from all type of mediums.

Just for you to be informed, Nickell is a member of the Skeptical community. The Skeptical movement in the USA has had its critical eye on Vassula for several years, mainly through Nickell’s articles. A certain main stream inside the Skeptical movement is quite anti-Christian and most members are atheists. I personally agree with Nickell’s conclusions that the main explanation of the Vassula phenomenon is human and is linked to Vassula’s personality type. I just wanted you to know about Nickell’s link to the Skeptical movement in case someone points it out as a problem. 

In the same way, the articles of Ingerlise Provstgaard are written from a Protestant point of view, since she is a Danish Lutheran. So, she has problems with Vassula encouraging the prayer of the Rosary. When I published her article several years ago on my website, a person from India wrote to me complaining about the fact that she questioned Marian devotion. However, Ingerlise is an expert in her field, and brings a different perspective to the analysis of the phenomenon, which is very useful. She points out the psychological traits of Vassula’s “Jesus”, for instance.

 

I consider all these different points of view as ways of reflecting on the whole Vassula phenomenon and should be all taken into consideration without feeling threatened by the fact that an atheist or a Lutheran wrote them. As long as we have our own faith clear to us… 

Another topic I wanted to discuss with you, well rather, warn you about, is the following: When I had the website, I received a lot of mail from all over the world, some of which from people who presented themselves as former followers of Vassula. And most were speaking the truth. However, in 10 years, I discovered that three of them were lying, and at least one of them was in fact a current member of TLIG… So, please be careful with the people that contact you regarding Vassula.

I also wanted to thank you for the very kind words you wrote in your preceding mail, regarding the work I did on the Vassula case. As I have often told you, much of it would not have been possible without my contact with you. Your example and encouragement have helped me face very hard moments and keep on with the website as long as I did. Maria Laura, Switzerland

 

From:
Richard Mascarenhas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 2:09 PM

Subject: A BLESSED CHRISTMAS/THE VASSULA RYDEN ISSUE

Dear Bro. Michael, it’s been a long time since I wrote but not really long since I read your postings.  Congratulations on getting Vassula Ryden banned in some cities of India… Richard, Oman

 

From:
Nn 13
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 1:19 PM Subject: Re: A BLESSED CHRISTMAS/reply

About Vassula, I had attended something they had for her at Don Bosco’s Matunga some years ago. 

At that time I was mad after ‘messages’ and had bought some of her books.  When i saw her on stage, I was not impressed as I thought she would be modest.  She had two slits on either side in her skirt. 

Then there were some messages I did not agree on – one I remember was that Jesus told her that because she knelt for so long, she had done enough penance.  I do not think that whatever penance we do is sufficient for the sins we commit. Anyway, I’m glad you are opening people’s minds about her. Mumbai

 

BISHOP ANTHONY FRANCIS SHARMA SJ OF KATHMANDU, NEPAL

From:
prabhu
To:
anath@wlink.com.np; amulyanath@hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:50 PM

Subject: FALSE GREEK ORTHODOX MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Bishop Anthony Francis Sharma SJ,

Mrs. Vassula Ryden visited several cities in India last month, December 2012. Prior to her arrival, I sent an alert containing the still in force 1995 CDF Notification warning about her errors along with information about the notifications from her own Orthodox hierarchy and also the bans imposed on her by Catholic bishops worldwide including the French bishops as recently as November 2012. I received written responses from the Archbishop of Faridabad and from the Kerala Catholic Bishops’ Conference that they had cancelled her scheduled appearances at Catholic venues under their episcopal jurisdictions. I also learnt that the Bishop of Coimbatore withdrew permission for her to speak to Catholic audiences and declined to participate in her book release in the Tamil language.

I am writing this letter to you for the reason that I came across information in Vassula Ryden’s True Life in God web site* which indicates that she met with you personally on December 12, 2008 and conducted her “first ever public witnessing in Nepal” at Assumption Church, Kathmandu, [where she had already had a “separate meeting with clergy and religious” after her meeting with you] the following day. Source: http://www.tlig.org/print/en/mission/meetings/

For your perusal, I am making available here below the titles of five reports and fifty-three articles on the alleged mystic.

I trust that you will have the time and patience to examine a few of them and learn something more about the dangers that her private revelations pose to the Catholic faith and their deviations from the teachings of the Magisterium.

Yours obediently,

Michael Prabhu,

Catholic apologist, Chennai, INDIA www.ephesians-511.net
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

 

*Dec 12, 2008
Nepal,
Kathmandu Meeting with Bishop Sharma, Kathmandu Nepal as well as separate meeting with clergy and religious in Assumption Church, Kathmandu

Dec 13, 2008
Nepal,
Kathmandu

Assumption Church, Kathmandu, Nepal first ever public witnessing of Vassula in Nepal

http://www.tlig.org/en/bethmyriam/world/nepal/:

A new BM Kathmandu opened on the 2nd of November 2009.

Address:
Beth Myriam, Nepal, Kathmandu
Responsible:
Christiane Plompen christianeplompen@rediffmail.com

 

From:
Amulyanath Sharma
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:52 AM

Subject: RE: FALSE GREEK ORTHODOX MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Michael,
Thank you for your message. What you say about Vassula’s visit to Nepal, etc. is correct. But she is no longer in our good books. There is a Belgian lady here who was responsible for her visit. However, her one visit was enough for us.
+A. Sharma, SJ

 

From:
Croydon D’Souza
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Dear Michael,

Thank you for your alerts. My apologies for not responding earlier as the whole incident has taken place at a time when I have been burdened by my studies which hopefully should complete next week.

In this taking this opportunity, I wish to congratulate you on your success and assure you of your continued support from me towards all that is against the Church.

Unfortunately for Vassula, her lawsuits won’t be effective in this country. So she definitely is done over with. Also, Michael, you need to know that you are not alone in this fight and your work, apart from being supported and protected by any faithful Catholics, is supported by the prayers and protection of our Saints. So keep up the good work. Croydon, London

 

From:
waterinckx mark
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: MY ALERT ON VASSULA/CORRESPONDENCE WITH BISHOP ANIL COUTO

Dear Michael,

Thanks for this email. In Belgium the archbishop Léonard is a big friend and supporter of Vassula (and Medjugorje).
Now he wants to bring a ‘seer’ of Medjugorje in our national Basilica in Brussels! I warned the Nuncio, who did not answer.
Congratulations for your efforts to bring the truth in church matters. Pax et Bonum, Mark

From:
mark waterinckx
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: A REPORT FROM THIS MINISTRY AND ARTICLES ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Dear Michael, Thanks. You are a giant.
I wish you a New Year full of graces from the Lord to you and your whole family. Pax et Bonum, Mark, Belgium

Mark Waterinckx is the author of one of the articles in the list below.

 

From:
Richard Mascarenhas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 6:35 PM

Subject: Re: 6 REPORTS AND 53 ARTICLES FROM THIS MINISTRY ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Dear Bro. Michael, 

Thanks for sending the update on the Vassula happenings.  I continue to read them and your below posting I have read in full.

VASSULA RYDEN-CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE BISHOPS AND OTHERS [REPORT]

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-CORRESPONDENCE_WITH_THE_BISHOPS_AND_OTHERS.doc

Your effort has borne the results.  I am sure as time progresses all those who are undecided would join your thinking and crusade. I continue to pray that God may bless you abundantly to continue your fight for His Church. 

It is really sad to find so many priests, bishops and theologians stand in her support.  The New Community Bible was certainly a proof of the fallen theologians and bishops who so readily stamped their approval on such a compromised book they called as a Bible. 

May God keep you in His care always. Yours in Christ, Richard Mascarenhas, Oman

 

From:
Diane B
To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:30 PM

Subject: RE: 6 REPORTS AND 53 ARTICLES FROM THIS MINISTRY ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN

+Hi Michael, Thank you for the articles. You inspire me.  That’s awesome that you don’t give up so easily. 

Keep up the good fight – Christian soldier! God bless, Diane, USA

 

From:
Anjaleen Princy
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 7:27 PM PERMISSION TO PUBLISH RECEIVED

Subject: Re: 6 REPORTS AND 53 ARTICLES FROM THIS MINISTRY ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN

Bro prabhu,

Why are you always pinpointing mistakes of others? Is your ministry only about finding faults? Can’t it be focused more on Christ? Yes I agree there are many things not going right. Can’t you focus on other good things and good people? … Please remove me from mailing list. I don’t want to hate anyone. Jesus always said hate sin not sinners. Regards Anjaleen

Anjaleen Princy is probably a member [as gathered by me from her earlier letters] of the Jesus Youth [JY] movement, many of who — as per their personal choices — are enamoured of Vassula Ryden‘s
messages.

She recognizes the dangers of New Age, etc in the Church and has herself circulated articles against New Age, but believes that I should instead use my web site for promoting prayer for those who promote error.

SELECTED EARLIER CORRESPONDENCE:

From:
prabhu
To: Anjaleen Princy
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: New Age affecting the spiritual life of millions of people.

My dear Anjaleen Princy,

I was sent your forward on New Age by one of the recipients. I thank both the sender and you.

I was not aware of the Catholic testimony by former New Ager David MacDonald and was glad to receive the same.

About five of the recipients, mostly JY members, are aware of my ministry. They also include one priest. Sadly, this priest who ministers to JY is also involved in New Age through Dreamwork therapy, etc., has written to me and threatened me some years ago for including it in my list of New Age errors, and repeatedly writes to me asking me to remove his email address from my mailing list. He is not alone. There are many priests who are involved in New Age, often without knowing it. Everyone knows that New Age has entered the Church in many forms, one of them being yoga.

 

 

I have been exposing and fighting New Age for many years now, and you can find much information at my website which is www.ephesians-511.net. You may please inform your friends about it so that they can in turn inform others, helping them to fight the errors that trap our brothers and sisters in Jesus. Michael Prabhu

From:
Anjaleen Princy To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:38 AM

Subject: Re: New Age affecting the spiritual life of millions of people.

Dear brother in Christ, 

Yes it is true that our world is really getting affected. As a Christian what you are doing is really a good job. I am also aware that Christian institutions and Priests and Nuns are involved in them. There are contemporary priests who Indianise Jesus like a monk sitting in yogic posture, instead of host … they have chapatti … which is very wrong … But it is our duty to pray for them. So I suggest including more prayers in your website coz we must be aware that when some one read your website they must not hate Catholic Church and priests and Nuns. We must remember that they are also human being with human frailty. So as Jesus revealed to saints we are no one to judge anyone specially the religious. But when ever we see them slip into sin. We must pray. […]

Check this website this may be helpful: http://prayersforpriests.homestead.com/  Love and prayers, Anji

From:
prabhu
To:
Anjaleen Princy Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:49 AM

Subject: IN THE BODY, EACH MEMBER HAS A DIFFERENT FUNCTION

My dear Anji,

You admit that there is much wrong going on. At least you are able to discern so. Many people cannot. Some of them consult me when they are guided wrongly by priests and nuns. Some people are called to pray, to intercede. Many Catholic charismatic priests from 1982 till now have discerned that my ministry is to expose error in love. It is a ministry against the Kingdom of Darkness, and a prophetic calling. Also, Scripture and Church Canon Law require us to expose and fight error if it is seen in our priests and Bishops. It is NOT judging others. Like Sts Peter and Paul, we have to warn our brothers and sisters of the wrong teachers in our midst. If prayer alone were sufficient, there would be no need for retreat preaching to warn sinners about eternal
punishment. So, in the Body of Christ, we have different ministries. Pray for ours. Love, Michael

From:
Anjaleen Princy
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:57 PM

Subject: Re: New Age affecting the spiritual life of millions of people.

Dear Brother, Could please confirm if I could add your email id on the mails sent by me to JY team. Anji

 

From:
Nn 14
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 2:54 AM

Subject: Re: 6 REPORTS AND 53 ARTICLES FROM THIS MINISTRY ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Michael,

Regarding all that you have spoken about Vassula Ryden, I totally disagree with what you have to say.

She is very sincere in her efforts to complete the work The Lord has entrusted to her i.e. Christian Unity and work towards the unification of all the churches.  This is no small task by any standards, and especially for a lady from the Greek Orthodox Church. 

There are and there will still be many more detractors to the messages she receives, but my personal request to you is to please discern for yourself and do not go by all that is written and published on the Internet.  Look for what The Lord wants and not for what mortal man wants to condemn.  We are here to do HIS HOLY WILL and if you have read the messages, you will understand what exactly is being asked of each one of us.

The Lord had instructed her to inform all those who read the messages to take her name out and put their names in, because HE is speaking to each one of us through these messages.  So please allow HIM to speak to you. God bless U

 

From:
George Pallipparambil
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:22 PM

Subject: Re: 6 REPORTS AND 53 ARTICLES FROM THIS MINISTRY ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN [SHE WAS IN INDIAN DIOCESES LAST MONTH]

Dear Mike,

Congratulations. Thank you for all that you do.

+George sdb, Bishop of Miao

 

From:
Neil C. Dias
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:22 AM

Subject: Re: 6 REPORTS AND 53 ARTICLES FROM THIS MINISTRY ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN

Dear Michael,

It is indeed sad to see such things happening in India. Much is happening in our Archdiocese as well. I am happy to see Cardinal Oswald, whom I have deep respect for, look into the same. Please follow up with him and let us know the outcome. You may publish this… Neil C. Dias, Mumbai

 

From:
Joseph D’Silva
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: 6 REPORTS AND 53 ARTICLES FROM THIS MINISTRY ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN

This is a genuine and God-sent ministry. I have ALL the books and testify to the same. PLEASE DO COMMENT AFTER READING ALL THE BOOKS. Joseph

 

 

 

From:
Nn 15
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:33 AM

Subject: Re: 6 REPORTS AND 53 ARTICLES FROM THIS MINISTRY ON FALSE MYSTIC VASSULA RYDEN…

Dear Michael & Angie,

First of all, we extend our heartiest Congratulations to you on your campaign to inform the Bishops of India about Vassula Ryden and her deceit. I have just finished reading your (extremely) long report of all the correspondence with Bishops and replies from them, priests and lay persons. I started at 9.30pm, went home for dinner at 10.45, came back at 12.30 and have just finished (stopped actually) and there is so much more to read – I only opened your first link – the report!

Some of the testimonies against her made me grow cold.

I decided to respond to you right away, after I said a few prayers because I was scared!  I could feel and still feel the presence of the Evil One.  I am and will continue to pray for you and your ministry for the monumental task you have taken on to battle the forces of evil in this world.  May Jesus and Mary hold your hands and give you comfort especially when you are assailed with doubts about your ministry.

I am very sorry I did not respond to your communications earlier.  We experienced severe difficulty with our wireless modem failing and the backup wired modem also working fitfully till we got a new one last week.  Still catching up with the backlog of email.

Once again, congratulations for the success especially with Bishops of Faridabad, Coimbatore and the whole of the KCBC.

God Bless you and your family. Catholic ministry, Goa

 

See

VASSULA RYDEN-PROBLEMS WITH ROME BUT WELCOME IN INDIA [REPORT]

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-PROBLEMS_WITH_ROME_BUT_WELCOME_IN_INDIA.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-HIERATIC OR HERETIC [REPORT]

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-HIERATIC_OR_HERETIC.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-A CDF NOTIFICATION BISHOPS WARNINGS AND THEOLOGICAL CRITIQUES [REPORT]

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-A_CDF_NOTIFICATION_BISHOPS_WARNINGS_AND_THEOLOGICAL_CRITIQUES.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE EUCHARIST AND INTERCOMMUNION ONE DATE AND PAN-CHRISTIAN ECUMENISM [REPORT]

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_EUCHARIST_AND_INTERCOMMUNION_ONE_DATE_AND_PAN-CHRISTIAN_ECUMENISM.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-EXCOMMUNICATED OR NOT-A LAW SUIT [REPORT]

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-EXCOMMUNICATED_OR_NOT-A_LAW_SUIT.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-THE REASONS FOR THE CHURCH’S NEGATIVE REACTION [ARTICLE. Also all following]

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-THE_REASONS_FOR_THE_CHURCHS_NEGATIVE_REACTION.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-FR FRANCOIS MARIE DERMINE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_FRANCOIS_MARIE_DERMINE.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-FR MITCH PACWA

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_MITCH_PACWA.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-FR PETER JOSEPH

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_PETER_JOSEPH.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-FR BRIAN HARRISON

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_BRIAN_HARRISON.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-FR RAY BLAKE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-FR_RAY_BLAKE.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-MARIA LAURA PIO

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARIA_LAURA_PIO.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-MARK WATERINCKX

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MARK_WATERINCKX.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-CARDINAL BASIL HUME

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-CARDINAL_BASIL_HUME.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-A CRITIQUE-DIALOGUE CENTRE INTERNATIONAL

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-A_CRITIQUE-DIALOGUE_CENTRE_INTERNATIONAL.doc

VASSULA RYDEN’S JESUS-INGERLISE PROVSTGAARD

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDENS_JESUS-INGERLISE_PROVSTGAARD.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-RICHARD SALBATO

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-RICHARD_SALBATO.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-JOE NICKELL

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-JOE_NICKELL.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-CAREY WINTERS

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-CAREY_WINTERS.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-CONSTANCE CUMBEY

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-CONSTANCE_CUMBEY.doc

 

 

VASSULA RYDEN-RONALD L CONTE

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-RONALD_L_CONTE.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-AN ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-AN_ORTHODOX_CHRISTIAN.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-JOHN SANIDOPOULOS

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-JOHN_SANIDOPOULOS.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-LAURENCE ENGLAND

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-LAURENCE_ENGLAND.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-LAURETTE ELSBERRY

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-LAURETTE_ELSBERRY.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-MURIEL

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-MURIEL.doc

VASSULA RYDEN-RICHARD CHONAK

http://ephesians-511.net/docs/VASSULA_RYDEN-RICHARD_CHONAK.doc
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