LETTERS CALLING FOR THE WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE



NEW WEBSITE: www.ephesians-511.net
DECEMBER 31, 2008, UPDATED DECEMBER 2009

 


LETTERS CALLING FOR THE WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

 

The New Community Bible [NCB] published by St. Pauls was released by the Bishops on June 28, 2008. Please see the critique on the New Age inter-faith book called a ‘Bible’, as well as the follow-up report,
THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB], THE PAPAL SEMINARY, PUNE, INDIAN THEOLOGIANS, AND THE CATHOLIC ASHRAMS MOVEMENT’ at this ministry’s website.

We have also published 20 ‘LETTERS TO THE EXAMINER, MUMBAI, CALLING FOR THE WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE, NOT PUBLISHED BY THE EDITOR, FR. TONY CHARANGHAT’.

Despite the glaring distortions and anomalies in its commentaries, the editor of the Bombay Archdiocesan fortnightly, The Examiner, was one of the leading spokespersons for the NCB, and defended it in several newspaper interviews. He published THREE [3] letters in favour of the NCB. In the above-referred presentation, we have reproduced them along with TWENTY [20] responses CALLING FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NCB, which were sent to him by a Catholic priest and laity under copy to this ministry, none of which were published. There must certainly have been others. To the best of my knowledge, no Catholic magazine carried any material that criticized the New Community Bible. Does this reveal that the Catholic media is controlled by powerful forces that seek to destroy the Faith? We would believe so.

Here are other letters received from all over the world by this ministry, reproduced as far as possible in reverse chronological order starting December 13, 2008. Many of them are written by simple laity.

But there are dozens of letters from priests, some of whom are Canon Law experts, theologians, professors, editors of Catholic periodicals, and from lay Catholics who are trained in Bible study, apologetics and evangelization, and several of who are in fulltime ministry for 25 to 30 years.

Many more priests and lay leaders contacted by this ministry are absolutely against the NCB and all it stands for, but declined for various reasons to express in writing their condemnation of it.

When good men [and women] are silent, evil triumphs.

God bless abundantly all those who had the moral courage to fight for the orthodoxy of the Faith by writing and expressing their condemnation of the NCB.

When reproducing the letters, the names of some writers have been withheld on request. The email ids of a number of writers have also been withheld to prevent internet misuse of their mailboxes.

 

From:
walter roberts
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:14 PM

Subject: Re: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOURRESPONSE –OR SILENCE… …

I totally agree with your observations and you can count me on the side of truth, standing by your side. I have even heard from very reliable source that Mr / Bro. Cyril John has said there is nothing wrong with chanting OM, and he’s the President of the ICCRS!!! As you have observed these are the END signs of the end-times er I mean the end of the period of grace. Have you observed the perceptible withdrawal of the Holy Spirit? Rev 22:11-Whoever is evil MUST go on DOING evil, and Whoever is FILTHY must go on BEING Filthy; WHOEVER is good must go on doing good, and Whoever is HOLY must go on being Holy.
What I’m saying is there is hardness in the Church, very much like the Pharisees in Jesus’ times. A newly ordained Priest told us, after the Benediction,   the Divine Praises are no more to be said!! There is so much disinformation AND misinformation in the Church, Truth is swept under the mat, best not seen. So the clergy can push their authority on the simple folk. And when they come up against Opposition then they resort to ridicule and THEIR THEOLOGICAL LEARNING. This is not only in our Church but also in the other religions AND also in the society we live in. Well aware of the prevailing situation, I’ve NOT taken the back seat but try and educate those who are open to God’s Word. Priests, even the parish priests steer clear of me!!
In John 10 vs 11 we see that Jesus told them a parable but THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND what He meant!! In Rom 9:6-7 St. Paul gives a revelation’ ALL the people of Israel ARE NOT the people of God. NOR are ALL Abraham’s descendents the CHILDREN of God”. Now take THIS to it’s LOGICAL conclusion!!!  See what I mean.

Jesus said He knew who were His own, and He Loved them to the very end. ONLY those who hear Him are His and they await His voice eagerly and do His bidding.

 

 

 

It’s true He doesn’t want a single soul to be lost, YET at the same time He gives FREEDOM (which He’ll Never infringe upon) – He places every soul in the same base, and gives each ample and equal opportunity, so that No soul can say ‘I was NOT given a fair deal’. I guess we are called to be the Sowers in the Field–we
scatter God’s WORD, and the soil has to accept the seed. Supernatural forces are at work on that seed which we don’t have control over. Having sown, we got to wait patiently to see the results, AND reap the Harvest when the time is Right.
I know the BURDEN you have for souls and the Church, It gets to me too, And then I get critical and Judgemental, and have to collect myself to bear in mind the clergy have THAT Freedom too. And they will be Judged more severely. The more you have the more you are accountable, Boy, I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes.
Keep up the good work, Will keep you in prayer– that goes without saying it. WE need protection. Counter the Dis/Mis-information campaign by the Truth and let God do the rest. Jesus was battered are we to expect any less. Praise God for the charisms and gifts He’s given us AND may he Fruits if the Holy Spirit ALWAYS be SEEN IN US.

God bless, Walter Roberts NEW DELHI [LAY CATHOLIC IN FULLTIME MINISTRY]

 

From:
anita mendes
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:38 PM

Dear Brother, I have already started praying for your ministry… 
					

I really do hope and pray that your message reaches and affects the Catholic Church in India. On my last trip to India, Bangalore, I visited a St Pauls bookshop in one of the churches and I was shocked to see alternative healing books being sold there. I picked up the courage to ask a nun running the book store about it and she said that “God intended for us to live a healthy and whole life so its ok” then I told her that “wholeness in life comes only from Jesus” but she refused to accept that its only thru Jesus we receive health and healing. Can you believe that??!! I asked her to pray about it and I left, my sister was already out of the store by then and when I narrated the scene to her, my sister told me that she even saw the Quran being sold there!

I was stunned to know that a NUN who is supposed to have embraced Jesus as the ONLY WAY, ONLY THRUTH and ONLY LIFE has compromised on her vows to the Lord and has embraces the way of darkness.

It is sad to see that these pillars of Christ are leading the flock straight into the mouth of the wolves.

Keep up the Good Work Brother Michael… my prayers are with you Best Regards Anita Mendes

 

From:
suri sequeira
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:48 PM

Subject: I support the ban on the NCB

Dear Michael, With regards to the NCB… I totally support the ban of such a Bible. Today, almost everywhere in India the true Gospel is being misinterpreted. There is no regard for the ‘Truth’ anymore. This whole matter of ‘inculturization’ has gone a bit too far. The ‘New Community Bible’ must be banned. It should never have been passed in the first place. Am sorry to say…. but it grieves my spirit to know the state of affairs in the Church today.

Your bro in Christ Suri Sequeira GOA

From:
suri sequeira
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 12:14 PM

Subject: Fwd: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB].YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE…

Dear Michael, Thanks you so much for the help. BTW I have been receiving emails about the CCB from you (below is the mail i received). Dont know how you got my email but I was in fact meaning to get in touch with you regarding the occult info etc, when you yourself landed up mailing me regarding the CCB. I guess God wanted to push me to write to you (I have been postponing it for a while).

Michael I went thru you site yesterday. Am very glad to be in touch with you cause you seem to have done a lot of research on issues that I myself was planning to research on but could just not seem to find the time. I guess now I know why the good Lord wanted to push me to get in touch with you. Was planning with a friend to write a very brief yet clear email article on the evils of Yoga and email it to everybody so that all might be made aware of its evil… cause yoga is being made compulsory in many schools (from what I have heard). All Christians must be made aware of the truth…. what they decide to do about it is then up to them. Am gonna go thru your article now and put that email together. If that’s ok with you??
Am also very glad that you have taken up the cause of the NCB …. if nothing is done to stop such wrongs then it will just increase all the more. Will send you my letter within the next couple of days after I go thru your article and have a better understanding on the matter. God bless you. Your bro in Christ. Suri

 

From:
rose ferrao
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: Re: FROM MICHAEL

Dear Br. Michael, I read from your mail about NCB which I did not know earlier.

M… may have mentioned about [not] buying such a bible and that it is not the correct one. 

I am very glad to hear about your ministry and praise god that HE has given you the courage and boldness to stand for what is right for the universal church. Your name is a good combination of the Archangel Michael and our Lord and I am sure they will see you through in the good fight you have started to protect the holy scriptures. As someone has already pointed that before publishing a book is reviewed by many reviewers and for the bible it should be a higher authority. Who has endorsed the bible I mean the Imprimatur? Having the bible with pictures of mosque and temples is unbelievable. I dont think the muslims would have tolerated anything like this for the Quran. Even though the matter is brought to the notice of the church and authorities responsible for this why has no action been taken.

 

 

 

 

I fully agree with you that the NCB should be withdrawn. Bible is God’s word to us and I believe no one should modify the text/commentaries to suit their personal or community needs.

Incase your signature campaign is still on please pass the link and I will also sign. I cannot do much as I am helpless in many ways, only which my God knows, but no one can take away my freedom to pray and I can assure you of my prayer support for this mission and I am sure God will be on your side to guide and lead you on with all your supporters. The anti-christ is very active in these days and we need Gods strength to go thru all these.  

I want to buy a new bible for my 7 and 6 year old since they like to read mine. Would like your advise as to which one will be the best. Was thinking of the New Jerusalem bible. 

God Bless you and have a blessed day. Yours in Christ Rose Ferrao KUWAIT

 

From:
maurice d’almeida
To:

prabhu
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:07 PM

Subject: Re: INTERCESSION FOR CHRISTOPHER

Dear Michael, Thank you so much for your prayers for my son, may God bless you and your family and everything you do.   I know it is a very difficult time for us Christians and faith is compromised by the clergy and laity as well with paganisation of Indian Church.  I read you report partly on NCB & Papal Seminary etc.  I am so wonderstruck to understand your ability to do all that what you are doing is not possible by a human being unless the Holy Spirit works in you, and God has really chosen you as prophet in this age to bring to the open the evil that infiltrated the Indian Church.  Keep going and the Lord is with you always. Your brother in Christ. Maurice D’ Almeida DUBAI [ATTENDED CATHOLIC BIBLE COLLEGE]

 

From:
Fr. T. C. George
To:

michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:01 AM

Subject: Thank you very much Re: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE –OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

We are praying for you too that you too be filled with God’s love everyday. You will be remembered as we will offer up the rosaries and prayers to the Almighty God during the Solemn Eucharistic celebration during the third week of this month. We will send you an invitation and keep you informed about the details so that you too can be present for that beautiful occasion.
Thank you for helping me to widen the World Rosary Campaign by inviting people to join. What a blessed time! The whole world is praying for India!! Awake India to the call of Christ! Thank you very much for loving. May God bless you.

Fr. T.C. George, Director, Visvadeep, Kristu Jyoti College, BANGALORE – 560036

 

From:
Fr. Thierry Blot
To:

prabhu
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:24 PM Subject: Re: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE –OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

I thank you so much for this information. God bless you. 

Dr. Fr. Thierry Blot, CONGREGATION OF DIVINE WORSHIP, ROME

 

From:
navin paul

To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:38 PM

Dear Michael, Thank you for your mail. I too was thinking about you the past few days. Its not that I have not replied b’cos I don’t support your ministry any more. You are such a widely read and knowledgeable person in matters of religion, faith and Catholic doctrines and I am confident that you cannot be wrong and the cause that you stand for will surely be to defend the faith, believes, teachings and purity of the Catholic Church especially in India where lot of adulteration of Christian practices and teachings has been occurring in the name of inculturation. The errors in the NCB has been prevailing for some time b’cos my aunty who was in Mumbai at the time of our days in the Bible College (1999-2000) had then argued with me on the very same lines like comparing Jesus to Shiva.., Holy Trinity to Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva, etc. She told me that these things were being preached to them at retreats that she had attended. My prayers and support are always with you and I am glad that the matter has been taken up with Rome.

You have my support and prayers and you may use this letter (edited or unedited) towards the support for withdrawal of the NCB. With love and prayers, Navin Paul, ALBERTA, CANADA [ATTENDED CATHOLIC BIBLE COLLEGE]

 

From:
ligoury fernandes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:46 AM Subject: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE–OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Thank you very much Mr Prabhu for your kind information.
I wish you all the best in your mission. May God bless you. Ligoury Fernandes

 

From:
trinity_cmd
To:
prabhu
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:24 AM Subject: God Bless for UR Spirited NCB Opposition

To, Br. Michael Prabhu #12, Dawn Apartments 22, Leith Castle South Street, Chennai 600 028, India.

Dear Brother & Team, 

This is with reference to the opposition to the NCB, that you and your dedicated team of clergy & laity have been up to. I spent time going through the very voluminous critique & agree with the arguments put forth. It is truely Catholic in spirit, in keeping with the Magisterium of the Church & I for one, am convinced that the NCB is not good for my faith life.  

There is almost nothing that I can add to, since you all have done a great job, undoubtedly led by God, the Holy Spirit.

 

 

It is a great service to the community & your timely intervention has certainly prevented many a Catholic from going astray. For now, your reward lies in this – as the official Church response is still forthcoming. But in heaven, I am sure – Great will be your reward. There is certainly great rejoicing in heaven, among the angels & saints, at the efforts of your team. Please convey to your team, the gratitude of thousands of ‘orthodox’ Catholics, with whom we are associated. 

Do keep us in your prayers, even as we remember you in ours. With Brotherly Love & Admiration, In HIM

Joseph Dias, Ex-Special Executive Magistrate / SEO, Govt of Maharashtra

General Secretary, The Catholic Secular Forum (CSF) MUMBAI
www.thecsf.org

 

From:
antony eligius
To:
michaelprabhu
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 12:09 PM

Subject: Great Pleasure in Joining the crusade

Dear Brother Micheal I went through your email regarding The NCB. It is very painful to know that satan has come this far in his attempt to mislead the souls. I haven’t read the NCB but I strongly feel that as true catholic it is our responsibility to make our fellow brothers aware of the dangerous of hidden agenda of satan in the NCB

It is my great pleasure, brother Micheal, to join in this crusade 

May The Lord Almighty fill you and family with Holy Spirit and strengthen you in this attempt.

With love in Jesus Antony Eligius, NORTH PARAVUR, KERALA

 

From:
Fr. Joseph Vas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:20 AM

Subject: thank you…

Dear Mike, thank you for keeping the NCB issue alive. I am sure your zeal and our prayer will give us needed respite.

If the St. Paul’s do not withdraw the controversial NCB surely they will be doing disservice to the Catholic belief. I am sure all our effort in the sight of God is going to be fruitful. As you say if the Indian church which lives not to protect the faith often makes compromises to live harmoniously. Because we have not been able to live our faith in an active way people like Gandhi could say ‘I love Jesus but not his followers’ we haven’t been able to attract people because of tepidity.

Let us hope God who takes care of his people who believe in the revealed truths may be able to protect them when these truths are violated and impinged upon by syncretism ideas which creep in because of our negligence.

All the best, yours in the Divine Word, Fr. Juze Vas, SVD., INDORE

 

From:
richard
mascarenhas

To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: RE: UPDATE

Dear Bro. Mike, It really must be a great relief to retrieve all the lost documents and in time.  God certainly desires that you go further into highlighting the errors of NCB. You are in my prayers always and I hope the NCB is totally withdrawn. 

Love Richard Mascarenhas OMAN

 

From:
ivan pinto
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 3:07 PM

Subject: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE… …

Dear Mike, It is of great solace that you have been able to draw the attention of the clergy and the laity to the distorted individual opinions of the Word of God. I fully appreciate and support your sincere and devout campaign against the Indianisation of the Bible as a staunch member of the Roman Catholic Church.

My brother is a priest and I remember him telling me that such issues if addressed to Rev. Cardinal Ivan Dias who is now in Rome will have a very profound and positive response. May God the Father, our Lord God Jesus Christ, and God the Holy Spirit bless you with mighty power and wisdom to safeguard the truth for which our Lord died on the cross for us. Yours in our Lord Jesus Christ Ivan Pinto KUWAIT

 

From:
Fr. Rosario Stroscio
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: Re: THANK YOU\REPLY

Dear Mr. Michael Prabhu, 

Yes I did read your comment on the Brahminised New Community Bible and I do hope that it will be withdrawn. But… how many things have happened these last 50 years or so, which should never have happened! Let’s pray, hope and trust. Being The Mother Of The Church, Our Lady will certainly intervene to put things in order.

United in Her Immaculate Heart, 

Fr. Rosario Stroscio, SDB.,
[Marian Movement of Priests, Director. In India since 5th. Dec. 1939]

 

From:
richard
mascarenhas

To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: MY ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF YOUR THREE LETTERS OF OCTOBER 20 {re. Bishop Thomas Dabre}

Dear Michael, How are you? I was thinking that the NCB issue is keeping you busy and out of email communication. Glad to know that the PC is now working fine.   

So, after having soiled his hands putting his seal of approval to NCB, he now wants to wash his hands clear and say “Not me, they”. A great shepherd indeed we have to lead the people.   Judge Pilate and Adam rolled into one.

May he have the courage to face facts, own up his error and withdraw his consent. It is a pity that he has risen to be a Bishop without sound Catholic teaching. Is the {Orissa} persecution a manner of Church cleansing?  How can that be, for the Bishops and priests run away to safer places for fear of life leaving the sheep at the mercy of their persecutors? 

God Bless Richard Mascarenhas OMAN

 

 

From:
sonia pinto
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
prabhu ; blyton pinto

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:12 PM Subject: WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB].

My family and I extend our whole-hearted support towards efforts taken by Michael Prabhu in defence of the Most Holy Bible in its Truth and as the Holy Church teaches it. I am shocked that a strange bible like this is published and I do wish to oppose any teaching contrary to the mind of the Church and its Catechism. I fear for our children and those people who might believe false teachings…. Our lives are to be based on the Living Word, active and alive in our lives…
Please stop the confusion …there is enough confusion in the world today! Concerned Parent,

Mrs. Sonia Pinto DUBAI, U.A.E

 

From:
vijayan a

To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:27 PM Subject: Re: congrats

Dear Mr.Michael Prabhu,

I fully appreciate your mission and your articles. God bless you continually in your mission.

I did read the article on the new community bible just now. It is very sad to note that Bible can be polluted and that too with approval from the church. Indianisation is often confused with Hinduism. Many of our priests today are more secular. I often fail to understand why some priests would not even mention the name of Jesus in their sermons. They only refer to him as Iraivan, Kadavul etc. The basic idea is they want to please everyone or they are too shy to proclaim Jesus. This is in total contrast with what Jesus said especially in today’s Gospel reading that He came to cause divisions. divisions because of the Truth of Jesus. Hope this publication -NCB- would be stopped by the shepherds before it causes damage to souls.

I agree with your views on Pauline publications. One thing of concern at St. Pauls – in Armenian Street, Chennai – The Holy Bibles are kept at a distance from one’s hand.- behind the billing counter. I hope they would keep them at counters easily accessible, rather than protecting them inside glass cupboards. if you have contact with them, please do mention this.

And hope they concentrate on more spiritual books, because all other books they have in display – like the management books, cookery, Thirukural etc are easily available else where.

I shall write to you some time later on issues that would be in tune with your mission. Thanks again for your ministry. Vijayan, A CHENNAI

 

From:
netanya fernandez
To:
mail@examinerindia.com ; editor@examinerindia.com

Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: Removal of the NCB

Fr. Anthony Charanghat,
This is with reference to supporting the cause of the removal of the NCB. I have been able to go through the same a little more in detail over the past few weeks, though not completely.
There are many references in the book which send across the message that there is no difference between Christianity and other religions, especially Hinduism. In fact, it even suggests that one need not be a baptised Christian to attain salvation. When the same information that is found in Christianity is found in Hinduism, why is there a need to get baptised to attain salvation? The ‘same message’ is also given in the Vedas also, right? This is highly misleading.

I hail from a very very orthodox Brahmin family and the Lord called me (and I received my Baptism) 6 years back. As a Christian, our duty is to ‘Go forth and preach the Gospel to all nations’. This doesn’t literally mean that we go in person to do so. All of us Catholics can preach the Gospel in our own way. The best way is the way we live our lives. When somebody sees us happy in life inspite of all hardships, with strength to do what seems impossible, they will be curious as to where we get the strength to carry on and thus gradually come to the Lord.
I was shocked, not just shocked, scandalized, when I saw the one of the illustrations in the book on page 1608 (for Zeph 3:17). The artist has drawn the crucified Jesus in one of the dance poses of the Hindu gods, Shiva, with various musical instruments being played around Him. It is very sad to see this. Our Lord suffered and died on the cross for our sins, it wasn’t a ‘dance of joy’. I don’t understand how this verse can be justified with the given illustration. How can the editor overlook such a terrible mistake?
The Bible is a Holy Book, the Word of God. The main point here is that this book, with ‘personal’ comments cannot be regarded as the Holy Bible. It may just be regarded as a book of religious comparisons and comments since the comments seem to draw more of a comparison between Christianity and Hinduism rather than ‘preach’ to the common Indian man about Jesus, the Word of God.
Praying that everybody realizes that the NCB cannot be regarded as a Bible and that it soon gets withdrawn. May the Lord help the people involved see the truth about this whole thing.
Netanya Fernandez, Winston and four children, CHENNAI [NETANYA WAS CONVERTED FROM HINDUISM]

From:
netanya fernandez
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
prabhu

Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Withdrawal Of the NCB

[Same letter as the above]

 

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:39 PM

Subject: This should cheer you – New Community Bible Criticized For Causing Confusion

CBCP News: Official news agency of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines

http://www.cbcpnews.com/?q=node/5194

 

 

 

 

From:
sophia chacko
To: prabhu Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE –OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Dear Brother Michael, I want to first of all thank you on opening my eyes to this new version of the Bible.
I totally agree that there should be no form of “Hinduization” of Christian principles.
What is Christian is Christian and what is not is simply not….
While I am not any authority in this regard, as a regular lay person who has attended evangelisation courses, i don’t see how trying to explain Christian principles in the local or Hindu context is helpful for any Spiritual upliftment. Especially if they constantly refer to Hindu deities, it quite takes the focus off Jesus, the ONLY Son of God, and the ONLY Name from whom Salvation is obtained.
In the commentaries, parallels are repeatedly drawn with Hindu deities, Hindu religious texts and mythology; biblical incidents and personalities and Christian philosophies have equals in Hinduism.
I would like to add that in my own limited capacity, i support this protest that your team is working towards.
God Bless your efforts, your perseverance and God Bless you and your entire family

Sophia Chacko KUWAIT [ATTENDED CATHOLIC SCHOOL OF EVANGELIZATION]

 

From:
Fr. C. M. Paul
To:

prabhu
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 8:16 PM

Dear Mike, That’s great clarification on NCB. Keep fighting. Fr. C. M. Paul, SDB., WEST BENGAL

[Member to the Advisory Panel to the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC); Former editor, The Herald weekly, Kolkata; Former director of the ANS (International Salesian News Agency), Rome; Former President of the national Catholic Association for Radio, TV and Cinema (Unda/OCIC & Signis); Former Chairman, Indian Catholic Press Association]

 

From:
Fr. Bryan Lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Re: VERY, VERY URGENT, PLEASE

Dear Michael, After taking some time off I hurriedly got you this information. I don’t think you need the info of 10 to 15 Cong. or Councils, because they do not concern your mission and they will be put off if you contact them for your causes. So I give the most important that will be just the right ones for your mission. See attachment. Regards,

Fr. Bryan Lobo, SJ., ROME

 

From:
Name Withheld
To:
prabhu Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 10:27 PM Subject: VERY, VERY URGENT

Dear Mr. Michael, I appreciate very much your fight for the faith. Below are the addresses of some important congregations. I do not have the email of all, and also they may not give importance to emails (and I am not sure if the emails they have provided some time back are still effective).  I suggest you to send letters to the Prefects and especially to Mons. Malcolm Ranjith (Congregation for the Divine Worship and Discipline of Sacraments), who is very good and a fighter for the faith. Anyway you can also send emails and faxes.  For faxes or calls, you have to dial 00 39 06 and the rest of the given phone numbers. But do send letters — well written, in good paper and good typing — for they are very effective. 

Bellow are the addresses: Please keep fighting for the orthodoxy and purity of our holy faith

Since we should work with prudence, I will not share with you my profile and my position in the Roman Curia.  But as I told you, your reports will be reaching the highest place. I can only tell you that in the origin of Dominus Jesus there were reports of this kind….
Do continue with dedication, courage and love of God this fight which is much needed in the Church.
May God bless you, Name Withheld ROME

 

From:
diana d’souza
To:
prabhu Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:05 PM

Subject: RE: UCAN report on the New Community Bible

Dear Br. Michael, Thank you for including me in your mailing list. As requested by you I will forward this to our prayer group leader & other members in my list. Though I have not gone through this new community bible I do understand your point, to which I am also against where the whole concept is to equalise Catholic faith to any other religion.

In the past in this respect I have shared a word in our community.
Any way I will support you in whatever manner spirit will lead me. Thank you once again,
With prayers & wishes, Yours in Jesus, Diana D’Souza
 KUWAIT

 

From:
Fr. Joseph Vas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:54 PM

Subject: Re: OUR CRUSADE AGAINST THE NCB REPORTED ON UCAN NEWS [UNION OF CATHOLIC ASIAN NEWS]

Dear Mike, When God is for us no one can be against us. I am glad the crusade against the NCB being detrimental to the common man’s belief has been upheld. Thank you for the report. take care God bless you, yours in the Divine Word

Fr. Joseph Vas, SVD., INDORE

 

From:
Fr.
John de Britto

To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:55 PM

Subject: Re: OUR CRUSADE AGAINST THE NCB REPORTED ON UCAN NEWS [UNION OF CATHOLIC ASIAN NEWS]

Dear Michel, Thank you for your work. I pray for you who worked so hard. Pray also for me. See you soon.

Fr John de Britto, OSB., FLAVIGNY, FRANCE [Doctor in Theology]

 

 

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
prabhu
Cc:
Fr. Joseph Vas
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: OUR CRUSADE AGAINST THE NCB REPORTED ON UCAN NEWS [UNION OF CATHOLIC ASIAN NEWS]

Dear Michael, Congratulations! This is wonderful news, I have put in my own comments and rated the article a good 5.

Do you realise this is the first unbiased Catholic news article on the NCB. The back breaking work of yours must have paid off. You are truly “God’s scavenger” to put it as picturesquely as you, close to His heart.

Many thanks for this and God bless Derrick D’Costa BAHRAIN

 

From:
rmascarenhas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: OUR CRUSADE AGAINST THE NCB REPORTED ON UCAN NEWS [UNION OF CATHOLIC ASIAN NEWS]

Dear Mike, For all the effort that has been put in, the only good thing is at least the news appeared (compromised in text) in the UCAN. As I was reading, I got a feeling that here too more space is given to speak for the NCB than against it.

God Bless. Richard Mascarenhas OMAN

 

From:
Fr. A.C. Jose
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:34 AM

Subject: Re: OUR CRUSADE AGAINST THE NCB REPORTED ON UCAN NEWS [UNION OF CATHOLIC ASIAN NEWS]

Dear Michael, Thank you for this news. This is a minimalized version of serious arguments against the NCB. Anyway, thank you for your attempt to move the mountain, though only a spadeful finally has resulted. Try if you can write to Card. Toppo and see if he agrees about the Hinduizing attempt of the Bible.

Your efforts are really praiseworthy! with best wishes, Fr. A. C. Jose, SDB., KOLKATA [EDITOR, ‘STREAMS…’] 

 

From:
swamiyesudas@yahoo.com
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:58 AM

Subject: Re: OUR CRUSADE AGAINST THE NCB REPORTED ON UCAN NEWS [UNION OF CATHOLIC ASIAN NEWS]

Dear Michael, Yesuvukku Pugazh! Happy that UCAN has given some voice to the protests. I just noted that Pauline Father Augustine Kanachikuzhy said: ‘fact “that the Bible contains stories and dramatizations and exaggerations was established long back,” is not accepted or understood. Makes me tired. Their philosophy was never accepted. But as I have shown in my latest, (which either has not reached You, or You have not seen yet, or lost it), Indian Catholic Theologians have gone in for philosophies of other religions… Wth love and regards, Yesudas [PRIEST] THANEERPALLI

 

From:
swamiyesudas@yahoo.com
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net ; etc.
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 3:55 PM

Subject: the NCB, and Other things

Greetings in the name of Jesus! This is once again about the NCB, and Other things.

Thanks to Michael Prabhu who, in his own way, is proving True to his name, ‘Micha-El?’
Thanks also to Mr. Benjamin le Beau, an Indian professor in France, who wanted to show that the Indian scriptures do not have the ‘Resurrection.’ What they do not have may not harm us so much as what they do have.

There is much I have taken from vedic Hinduism. One of its in-effable gifts is Dhyaan, which I am in a position of impart today. At the same time, as far as Philosophy, Thought pattern and outlook are concerned, Hinduism and Christianity are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

AN INTEREST IN INDIAN PHILOSOPHY ALMOST INVARIABLY LEADS ONE TO THE VEDANTA.

I have shown this in the Attached Essay. It is a mere 4 pages long, lots of space, lots of Graphics.

The essay is also written in the light of my own Personal Faith Experience, where once I had gone to the extent of denying Christ, and my subsequent Come-back. With Regards, once again in Christ Jesus, Yesudas, Priest of Daltonganj.

On the NCB, Advaita, Dhyaan and Other Things

In the name of ‘Respect’ of other religions, and in the name of ‘Culture,’ we are finding the Roots of Vedic Philosophies entering a Bible, albeit in the Commentary. First of all, Should a Bible be used to learn the truth in other religions?

Culture?

SSP’s (spokes-person?) Father Thelekat, is reported to have said to the Times of India, (5 Aug 2008, 1241 hrs IST, PTI)

‘As far as Catholics are concerned, they have to live and interpret their Christian faith and scriptures within the given culture.
So they have to understand and interpret the culture.’ The word ‘Culture’ has been specified.

Let us now have a look at what the commentator of Exodus 20: 1-7, writes in the NCB:

‘According to the Indian texts, the Ultimate
Reality
or Brahman is arupa, agrahya, adrsya, acintya, that is, beyond all senses and imagination.’

Are we to take that the terms above, (and the sentence itself), belong to the realm of culture? Or did Thelekat want to say that Catholics have to live and interpret their Christian faith within the Hindu philosophy?

Just by the way, it seems that according to Thelekat, Goans, Mangaloreans, the Anglo-Indians and the Christians in the North East, not to say the Adivasis who constitute a full 50 % of the Catholic population of the North, have to learn and understand Indian culture in order to interpret their Christian Faith. Should a Bible be used to learn the truth in other religions?

Bias

Just because 15 to 18 years of preparation have gone into the preparation of the NCB cannot call for its automatic acceptance. One of the common points of Epistemology is that You find out who the author is, and if he had been found sound, You accept his work. Even a mere 40 years ago, I would have accepted, just on their word, the work of a Catholic Priest. Today?

 

 

The NDTV web-site stops itself after reporting that the Maoists have taken responsibility for the killing of Saraswati. The Times of India goes on to say, publicly, that the Maoist leader himself states that a large number of the Naxalites in that area are Christian.

We find the same in Catholic circles now!
In an established and revered Catholic paper like the Examiner, we find that criticisms of the NCB are not published.
Another Catholic paper of the South* is extremely sarcastic when publishing views different from that of the Editor. *The New Leader [Michael Prabhu]

Catholic Theologians, on whom the Bishops would depend for examination of content, themselves are so immersed in Vedantic thought, as the next section shows, that the Bishops will have to re-evaluate the Commentaries in the NCB. Should a Bible be used to learn the truth in other religions?

Some Truths

With reference to the letter of Prof Robert Castellino (The Examiner, August 16), A F Nazareth, from Mahim, who had written: ‘They prove useful in helping us learn more about the
truth in other religions…’
I wonder what truths he is referring to. I point out some from my side.

A. A vast chasm exists between the two Faiths. The gita says: ‘Vinaashaaya (ca) dushkritaam,’ in its famous 8th verse of the 4th chapter. The versicle in effect means, ‘(And) to destroy the evildoers.’ How does it compare to ‘Christ Jesus came to save sinners.’

B. Christ was unrelenting (!) in His teaching on Forgiveness. The Gita says, ‘Slay Your relative(s), if need be.’ If we were to follow the counsel of the Gita and take up ‘Dharam Yudh,’ we may all have to turn Naxalite.

C. Two Vedic Maha-vaakyaas, KritPranaash,
[(the Effect of) one’s action will not be destroyed], and Akrityabhyoopagam,
(You will not have to suffer for what You have not done), give rise to the concept of Rebirth. As we see from the meanings, (rough translations, of course), they are astonishingly similar to Ezekiel 18! Yet, at the same time, how vast a difference in the inferences!

The Christian learns to be careful in his conduct. The Hindu, while taught that he might have to be reborn, particularly in the case of a careless life, as a lower form of life, and would have to go through the whole process of suffering again, in practice, couldn’t care less.

Thus for the Hindu, the concept of Rebirth, and the thought that he has any number of births available for him, reduces Moral Responsibility, to say the least.

D.
For the Hindu, to help one in his suffering would even be wrong,
as the sufferer has to fulfil his ‘Karma-Phal.’ Again, This, is how the God-realized person, according to them, helps others in suffering:

“They try to help people attain God-consciousness which is the only effective way to put an end to their suffering.” (From Korko’s ‘Transformation of energy’).

Below, I show a collage consisting of a Burnt Orphanage, a Burnt Child, both from the recent Orissa violence, and an Unknown ‘Victim of a Conflict!’

The next group below shows firstly a picture entitled ‘Nigerian children – “Victims of Starvation Policy!!!” ‘ another Child Victim, from the Nigeria-Biafra war, and the picture of a Brave Policeman.

I shall try to tell all these, “You should try to attain God-consciousness, which is the only effective way to put an end to Your suffering.”

…All this has led to the Apathy of the Indian, the very opposite of the Good Samaritan’s spirit.
Variously termed as ‘Vidhi,’ or as ‘Karma Phal,’ Apathy is clearly the End Result of the Vedic Thought Stream. Trying to learn the ‘Truth’ will happily make us like them.

The Situation Today

I would say that there are some 100 Catholic Ashrams in India today. The Ashram Aikya, which is the ‘Federation of Ashrams of Catholic Initiative,’ – to which I do not belong, by the way, — can and should be taken as representing the form Indian Catholicism is taking.

Martin of Shantivanam, (prominent Catholic Ashram in Thanneerpalli, Tamil Nadu), who is a Camaldolese monk, ex president of the Ashram Aikya, comes out openly: ‘I am God, & You are God.’ Yet he always does this with foreign audiences and in his writings, and never in front of the local Church of Thanneerpalli.

Fr. PAINADATH, sj,
[a Catholic Ashram founder -Michael Prabhu] present president of the Ashram Aikya, after a lot of hemming and hawing over the years, in the AA newsletter no. 51, in his editorial, finally came out with the following gem:

‘Brahmavid brahmaiva bhavati – the one who knows Brahman, becomes Brahman (Mundaka Up. 3.2.9). In the same tone Thomas Aquinas wrote: Quisque Deum intelligit, Deus fit – whoever knows God, becomes God.’

To become God? Is that what we are supposed to aim for? I had thought what I had to follow and try to live by is Christ’s One command. I had thought that to be His disciple I had to learn and practice, Christ’s words: “If any want to become my followers, let them Deny themselves, and Take Up their Cross,
Daily, and Follow Me.” (Lk. 9.23, RSV, emphasis mine). I had been brought to appreciate the Four elements that I have emphasised above. Never, during my philosophate in Allahabad or my Theological studies in the excellent St. Albert’s of Ranchi, had I even an inkling that I was supposed to ‘Become God.’

We do not deny that we come from God and go back to Him. But do we ‘Become God?’ Are we going to ‘Become God(s)’? Should a Bible be used to learn the truth in other religions?

Are these isolated views of some individuals alone?

1. Fr. Korko MOSES sj, [a Catholic Ashram founder -Michael Prabhu] in an article titled, ‘Transformation of energy – sexual to spiritual,’ writes: “…the spiritually awakened person sees the reality around …as God and nothing but God in all diversities and manifestions.”

 

 

So, according to this learned-person, who is a Catholic priest, a jesuit, an ex rector of a seminary, everything is to be seen as God. So it was God who crucified God on the cross, it was God who raped the poor nun in Orissa!!!

This gentleman has more: “We are actually divine in essence, having the same nature as God.” And “… realizing the divinity within you; realizing God or realizing oneself. These are different ways of saying the same thing.” The picture at right is supposed to represent a ‘realized person.’ He is indifferent to the cat having knocked off the lamp. But why had he set the alarm if he was going to ignore that?

2.
The Superior general of the Camaldolese, speaking in Shantivanam, during the deaconate of 3 brothers there, stated that now we have to look forward to
theDivinisation of man.’

3. Catholic Nuns, going to these for courses and seminars, have imbibed these ideas. At a prayer meeting to which I had been invited, one Sister, addressing the old people assembled there, opened with these words, “Neengal ellorum Deivangal,” which is Tamil, and means, ‘You are all Gods.’ As we have many Sisters who run Ashrams, or who are interested in the Ashram way of life, and as they have been attending courses and seminars and get-togethers and ‘satsangs,’ one wonders what their poor heads are full of.

4. The e-mail id of a Cloistered Carmel Convent is: ‘Ish-Bhav‘! Ish Bhav means ‘Become God.’ It cannot be said that they mean it in the sense of the Followers of the Way getting called ‘Christians,’ Alter-Christus, Another Christ.

5.
A certain Catholic college professor, who is a Charismatic leader in his local church, — (I am not against Charismatics, I am one myself, though of the ‘Old’ Kind) — says that we have the same Nature of God. He follows the Advaitic argument of a tongue of flame and fire having the same nature.

(We accept and acknowledge that we are created in the likeness and the image of God, that we come from Him and shall go back to Him. Can we go to the extent of saying that we have the same Nature as that of God?)

6.
Fr. Ishwar Prasad, ims, of Matridham Ashram, Varanasi, a man for whom I had high regard, submitted this to the AA newsletter no. 49, on pages 6-8, about the ashram. These are excerpts, of course.

Several places connected with the battle (of the Mahabharata) are within easy reach of our ashram.

Jyotisar, traditionally venerated as the very place where Shri Krishna taught the immortal song, Bhagvad Gita, …is hardly 2 km away.

Tradition again has it that it is in Kurukshetra, (the battle field of the Mahabharata) that most of our sacred books
– the Vedas, Upanishads and many Puranas – saw the light of day.

Kurukshetra …offers a three-fold salvation to devotees. …Those who are cremated here, do not need any further religious rites for salvation.

The beautiful Matri Mandir (the Ashram chapel) …is in the shape of the chariot of Arjuna, driven by Krishna.

That is the main attraction of Matridham today. …In the words given above, Only those in parenthesis are mine. In the whole of the article, only a picture of our Lady placed there seems Christian. I have a hard copy of the issue. Copies in PDF available for those who desire it. And Brutus is an honourable man.

Even Catholic Priests, and eminent ones at that, are following the Vedantic way of Thinking.

A keen involvement with Vedic thought, unless kept in very
careful check, inevitably leads one to the Advaita, as the above quotations show. The brakes seem to fail!

The Error

Indian Catholic Ashramites, who did well to try to learn ‘Dhyaan’ from the Hindu Sannyasis, (who alone could have taught it, after all!), made the mistake of taking the Hindu content of Dhyaan, ie, their Mahavaakyaas.

Once, my good Bishop, the late G. V. Saupin, sj, had asked me just how one arrives at the position of the Advaita. My answer to him is relevant today too, viz:

“If You take a person and fill his mind with a certain line of thought from his childhood, then his very dreams, his experiences and even his subconscious are going to be affected by that.”

It is absolutely unfortunate, that it did not strike them that the Bible has enough and more Mahavaakyaas of its own! There is so much to realize in Christianity. The Love of God, Forgiveness, Trusting in spite of all problems, how many have realized these?

How many, in spite of every retreat starting with the counsel of God’s love, have realized the Love of God? The love of a God Who kept silent to His Son’s prayers in Gethsemane, and Who keeps silent while His children are being gang-raped and burnt? Only one who has realized the love of God can convey it to others.

Realization is not ‘Understanding.’ It is experiential. We cannot realize the Supernatural realities using our brain. Realization cannot be taken, it can only be received. It can be had only when the Mind has become silent. And only the Divine Author can impart that.

Conclusion

With this I rest my case. As can be understood, much more can be written. I have myself edited this from my own 18-page essay on the subject. Hoshiar ke liye Ishara kaaphee hai!

Should a Bible be used to learn the truth in other religions? The Bible cannot be the place to learn the ‘truth’ of other religions. And the ‘truth’ of these religions being what they are, they will have to be left out of a Bible.

Welcome to Jyoti Ashram

Chrstian Dhyaan can be learnt at Jyoti Ashram. Dhyaan is a method of silencing the Mind. By silencing the ever-active Mind, we learn to listen to God. We imagine, think, and are even absolutely convinced that we are ever listening to God. The Reality is, whether we are saying, Lord, I adore You, or, I Praise You, or, I Thank You, or giving Him one of our innumerable lists, It is we who are speaking, and He is listening. We have not even begun to listen to the Divine.

 

 

You are Welcome to Jyoti Ashram to learn Christian Dhyaan. Come to learn to Silence the Mind, and learn how to Apply Christian Maha-vaakyaas to Dhyaan. Come to Know Christ, for Peace of Mind, and for Inner Healing.

Jyoti Ashram is very small! At present, we do not even have accommodation for Visitors. If You agree with my views, and would like to spread God’s Word, and to Make Christ Known, please support me.

Yesudas, of Daltonganj diocese, at Jyoti Ashram, Thanneerpalli, Karur Dt. 639107.

 

From:
fernandoleo74@gmail.com
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: UCAN QUESTIONNAIRE ON THE NCB CONTROVERSY

Dear mic, NCB story is published today in UCAN. i am sending it as an attachment  

Even though I used as many quotes from different people who wrote to me. But the editors have kept the story short and used arguments of only three critics. thanks for all the help regards Leo Fernando [UCA News]

INDIA New Community Bible Criticized For Causing Confusion
By Leo Fernando

October 13, 2008  |  IB05918.1519  |  644 words     

http://www.ucanews.com/2008/10/13/new-community-bible-criticized-for-causing-confusion/

CHENNAI, India (UCAN) — The first Indian version of the Christian Community Bible is facing criticism from people who say it undermines the Catholic faith.

The new version is “unfit for personal prayer, study, sharing, teaching or evangelization,” asserts Michael Prabhu, a Catholic layman who wants the publishers to withdraw it and suspend any further printings.

Cardinal Oswald Gracias of Bombay released the New Community Bible on June 28, jointly published by St. Paul Publications, Divine Word Publications and Claretian Publications.

According to the publishers, this is the Indian edition of the popular Christian Community Bible originally produced in Spanish in Latin America. An English-language version first appeared in the Philippines.

The Indian edition has the required clearances such as a nihil obstat, certification from a theologian saying its content does not contradict Catholic teaching. It also has an imprimatur, clearance from the hierarchy saying it is free from error in matters of Catholic faith and morals.

Some leading biblical scholars in India have written commentaries for this edition, which took nearly 17 years to complete and which the publishers describe on their website as a gift to the Church in India.

However, critics point to the presentation of parallel texts from Hindu spiritual books and commentaries using Indian mystical figures, saying this runs the risk of equating Christianity with other religions.

“It promotes relativism and syncretism, which are strongly condemned by the Church at regular and frequent intervals,” Prabhu told UCA News. He admits many of the commentaries are excellent but says some have errors.

“They give personal interpretations of events in both the Old and the New Testaments, ignoring the faith value of these events,” he explained. Such commentaries philosophize on alternative explanations for biblical events and ignore traditional interpretations, casting doubt on their authenticity, he asserted.

In an effort to justify inculturation, he continued, some commentaries draw parallels between landmark biblical events and nature religion, deities of other religions or mythological figures.

The layman claimed numerous references are made to Mahatma Gandhi, father of the Indian nation who advocated nonviolence, Gautama Buddha and Indian mystics such as Kabir and Mirabai, but none to saints such as Francis Xavier and John de Britto. Both of these Jesuit missioners preached in India.

Pauline Father Augustine Kanachikuzhy, who edited the New Community Bible, dismissed the criticisms but agreed that references to sacred books of other religions could perhaps make some Christians uncomfortable. “Indian Scriptures are referred to in a Biblical commentary only to get a more inter-cultural and contextualized understanding of certain Biblical terms and concepts,” he told UCA News in an e-mail from Mumbai, western India, where he is based.

Such commentaries also serve as an invitation for people of other faiths to draw from the treasures of the Bible, he added.

The priest pointed out that the idea of a Bible that comes with commentary is a relatively new idea which some cannot accept, even more so when the commentary refers to other religions. “These ideas have to gradually sink into their minds,” he said. The critics think everything in the Bible has to be literal and factual, he charged, whereas the fact “that the Bible contains stories and dramatizations and exaggerations was established long back.”

Father Jose Aymanathil, who is based in Kolkata, eastern India, disagrees. He maintains the publishers have diverted the purpose of the Bible. According to the Salesian priest, the Bible does not aim “to unite us with other religions through text comparisons.” He told UCA News the publishers are “Hinduizing the Bible” in the name of adapting it to the Indian context.

Another critic, Benedictine Father Jean de Britto, told UCA News the New Community Bible “is very dangerous to Catholics because it can destroy or diminish the faith.” The visiting French theologian maintains the problems arise because the New Community Bible puts different religions on a par with one another. END

 

MY RESPONSE SENT TO UCAN FOR POSTING:

I thank UCAN for publishing a report on the criticism of the New Community Bible [NCB] by the faithful, laity and priests.

We have collected a few hundred letters from lay leaders of ministries and from theologians from all over India and overseas. They list dozens of objections to the commentaries in the NCB.

 

 

 

The publishers of the NCB might have received the nihil obstat and the imprimatur, but I have now reconfirmed that the Catholic Bishops’ Conference has called for a revision.

It is not without precedent that important Catholic works have later been censured or revised.

There have been problems with at least two other Community Bibles.

I quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Community_Bible:

1. Chinese edition, 1999. “Since its publication, this translation has been in the centre of a controversy regarding the translation process and the content of its commentaries.

Because of the criticisms, some regard this translation as being a poor translation unsuitable for lay people without extensive prior theological training.”

2. “The French edition of the Christian Community Bible (1994)… was initially a great success, but its imprimatur was rescinded in 1995 amid accusations of having anti-semitic overtones in its commentaries.

A revised translation (1998) is still considered controversial by some in the Jewish community, not because of anti-semitic overtones but because of replacement theology overtones.”

But, the Phillipines Bishops’ Conference’s Community Bible on which the Indian version is stated to be based has not even one single error in its commentaries.

To return to the UCAN report:

The sentence quoting me starting with “In an effort to justify inculturation” might make some readers think that I am against inculturation. What my team and I are against is the “hindu-isation” of the Church in the name of inculturation.

Father Augustine Kanachikuzhy makes several statements that are not true. To respond to just three:

1. “the idea of a Bible that comes with commentary is a relatively new idea which some cannot accept”.

I have a large collection of Catholic Bibles, some of which have commentaries and footnotes and are over ten years old.

Protestant Study Bibles have been around for a long time and many Catholics in ministry refer to these now and then.

2. “The critics think everything in the Bible has to be literal and factual”.

I do not know what gave Father that idea. We may not all be theologians but we have been to Catholic Evangelization and Bible Schools. We are uptdate on Church teaching and have studied the 1993 document, “The Interpretation of the Bible in the Church,” issued by the Pontifical Biblical Commission which was headed by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now the Pope. Moreover, around thirty priests including Doctors in Theology and Canon Law have given us letters criticizing various aspects of the NCB commentaries, in commission as well as in omission.

3. “that the Bible contains stories and dramatizations and exaggerations was established long back.”

We do not know what Father Augustine means by “exaggerations”. And this is basically the problem in the mindset of the theologians that has translated into misleading and confusing statements in the commentaries. It is because of these that the NCB has become unfit for Christian spiritual consumption.

The two priests from our team quoted in your report are a Doctor in Canon Law and a Summa cum Laude Theologian from a Roman University. If they and all the Catholics who have joined our team think differently from the publishers of the NCB, and if even there is a concession from the Bishops’ Conference of one minor revision in the commentaries, our position stands vindicated. It remains to be seen whether our leaders will have the humility to publicly admit their collective error and correct the profusion of errors, only a few of which we have pointed out.

After all, it is a matter concerning the faith and the fate of the future Indian Church.

Finally, the scholars who wrote the controversial commentaries and the Bishops who tend to underestimate the dangers of these errors would do well to read the daily reports of the many Catholic news agencies on the Synod of Bishops on the Word of God currently in progress in Rome. They justify the correctness of the stand that we have taken on the NCB.

Thank you and God bless you all,

Michael Prabhu [Catholic Apologist www.ephesians-511.net ] michaelprabhu@vsnl.net and Team

October 15, 2008

 

IN ADDITION TO THOSE COPIED FURTHER ABOVE, OTHER RESPONSES ON THE UCAN REPORT:

MANGALOREANCATHOLICS E-GROUP PUBLISHED THE UCAN REPORT IN ITS E-DIGEST NO. 1017 DATED OCTOBER 14, 2008 along with this comment:

Dear Michael Congratulations! This is wonderful news. Do you realise this is the first unbiased catholic news article on the NCB. The backbreaking work of yours must have paid off. You are truly “God’s scavenger” to put it as picturesquely as you, close to His heart. Many thanks for this and God bless Derrick

COMMENT POSTED ON THE UCAN SITE:

The NCB has truly confused and hurt the Indian Church. On the one hand the official catholic media in India praises the work as a wonderful tool for inter religious understanding, not in the least countenancing the view that Hinduisation and Brahminisation is not necessarily inculturation. While we must respect other faiths, the commentary exclusively criticises Holy scripture in a tremendously painful manner and does not even in a single place criticise the non- catholic religious texts quoted. Nor can this work even try to change this approach for now the Indian Church and poor dalit Christians are under grievous persecution in India. While none of us have any ill feeling against the tenets of other religions, some of us find the forced comparisons tragic, unfortunate and even to put it strongly, having an element of deceit.
The words of Isaiah 40.25 where our Holy God complains to His people “And to whom have ye likened me, or made me equal, saith the Holy One?” seem pertinent to mention albeit with great pain.

 

 


Yes, the NCB likens God and Holy Scripture to mythological characters and other religious texts and contrary to what is written in the very often unread preface provides ample justification for those who feel our Holy Scriptures and our Holy Lord are compared to other religious texts and deities treating them as similar. Sadly enough no Indian catholic publication has even attempted to expose the deep and very painful divisions between those who consider the NCB commentaries a well-intentioned and noble work and the voiceless majority of Catholics who consider the extreme commentary an offence and sin against the Holy Spirit have not been given fair and balanced coverage particularly by esteemed Catholic publications such as the Examiner. I am sure that I, my friends and my family members are not alone in their view that the Church has grievously and perhaps irreparably offended the Holy Spirit. May God forgive us for this.

Derrick D’Costa BAHRAIN

 

From:
odette d’silva
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com; michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:46 AM Subject: Withdrawal of the New Age Community Bible

I strongly object to this New Age bible and urge for its withdrawal. Regards Odette D’Silva MUMBAI

 

From:
angelamariemendonza@gmail.com
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Cc:
editor@examinerindia.com

Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: The New Community Bible

BCC:
vasaidiocese@gmail.com; response2communitybible@gmail.com; michaelprabhu@vsnl.net;

Dear Sir, Three months ago, a new edition of the Holy Bible was released by the St Pauls Society. I have all other major Catholic editions and I bought this one too, to use for my study as I understood that it was produced with commentaries by Indian scholars with the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur of two bishops. Moreover, some letters from lay persons that were published in your weekly praised the contents of this edition. I found that many of the commentaries were indeed very good. But, at the same time, many commentaries are very disturbing.

First of all there is a lot of emphasis on social justice aspects of liberation theology and less on our liberation from sin.

Secondly, there are many statements of the scholars that tend to confuse the ordinary Catholic reader.

Thirdly, there are so many references to the mythical gods of other religions that it disturbs one from imbibing the life-giving water that only the Word of God offers. Was such a Bible really necessary?

My family has several members that were born in other religious persuasions but are today Catholic. They ask why they should now be obliged to face once again what they had long ago given up when they chose to follow Jesus Christ.

I have found many, many more problems with this Bible, but I just want to end here by asking how it is possible that Bishops can give the Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat to a Bible that has apparently so many errors and distortions in it.

Yours Sincerely, Angela Marie Mendonza, c/o 34, 9th street, AK Swamy Nagar, Kilpauk, CHENNAI 10

 

From:
celestedesouza To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
prabhu

Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:53 PM Subject: NCB

I recently saw the NCB at the home of a relative who has left the Catholic Church and joined one of the many Protestant sects. To say I was initially shocked out of my wits is an understatement. The NCB had been brought there by a protestant pastor and was being held up as the fulfillment of the theory they have of a religion that will unify the world, of a one world religion and that will emanate from that ‘scarlet harlot’ which is the Catholic Church.

Two days later they gave me the copy as they did not want it to sully their home. I began to read it. The commentaries are so well written, they are beguiling, the comparisons are insidious. To tell you the truth now I’m afraid to read further.

What need do I have to know the similarities? In what way is this NCB meant to add to my appreciation or knowledge of my own Holy Book. How would it deepen my faith?

When and how is this book going to be used? Which seminary will receive the benefit of these comparisons and how many young priests will come out from there trained to teach a new generation these similarities?  

What if my grand children will be so indoctrinated that they will not know the tree from the wood?

I thought only the people who are part of the 25,000 protestant sects had to be wary of what they are taught by their individual pastors. I thought I was safe in the Church and could trust their 2000 years of leadership. But can I?

I am a simple Catholic with a great love for my God and My church. In these troubled times why do we need enemies outside when we have them within. Withdraw this abomination immediately. Celeste de Souza BANGALORE

 

From:
joslinmenezes
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: FW: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Dear Bro. Michael Prabhu
I have read your email and am really shocked to know that something like this could be published by St.Pauls. I have been purchasing a lot of spiritual books from them, its really shocking to know that they could publish a book like this and put the readers faith at risk.
I really appreciate your effort and concern in exposing the distortion in the New Community Bible and also support the cause of your ministry in exposing all the new age agenda which is the trump card from the enemy of our souls to deceive even the elect and to destroy the Roman Catholic Church. May the Spirit of the Lord give you the right judgement and discernment to expose the plan of the enemy. I and my wife Tina totally support the cause for the withdrawal of the New Community Bible and any such cause which can put anyone’s faith at risk in believing in Jesus Christ.

 


Mark 9:42 “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung round his neck and he were thrown into the sea.”

God bless You Your Brother & Sister in Christ Joslin & Tina Menezes DUBAI
PS: I have forwarded your alert to many others who are not aware of the dangers of this New Bible Published by St. Pauls.

 

From:
veronica judith
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE…

Dear Michale Prabhu, Its totally not right to compare the Holy Bible and the other faith Religious book. Because as per the commandment Thou shall have no other god before Me. 

There is no one like Jesus who died for our salvation, peace. If This Bible comes out in the market there’s gonna be a lot of problems and divisions. So see that nothing as this should happen or even if its come out stop it.

I read it half was not at all feeling comfortable reading it. Will go through full and reply for the same. regards,

Veronica GOA

 

From:
flavia fernandes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:58 PM

Dear Michael,

The New Community Bible brought out for India has got questionable references in it equating Christianity to some other faiths and
by doing so it empties Christianity of its defining Christological heart: faith alienated from our Lord Jesus, as the only Savior
.

The paragraph is taken from Zenit’s reporting [July 3, 2005] on John Paul II [Ad Limina visit of Indian Bishops]. I think you will find it good stuff to quote in your arguments. God Bless! Flavia Fernandes MUMBAI

 

From:
victor.borde@gmail.com
To:
fernandoleo74@gmail.com
Cc:
‘prabhu’
Sent:
Monday, September 29, 2008 11:45 PM

Subject: RE: message from UCAN (Union of catholic Asian News) {attachment}:

RESPONSE OF FR VICTOR BORDE TO UCAN, Union of Catholic Asian News QUESTIONNAIRE

Hi Leo, Kindly find attached my response to the questionnaire. Thanks, Fr. Victor Borde PUNE

Dear Leo, Thanks for the questionnaire to me.

1. Why are you criticising the new version of Bible?

I am not criticizing the Bible but the new commentary and the new interpretation of the Bible.

Why? Because my faith and St. Paul urges me to…

“So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by our letter.” (2Thessalonians 2:15) “Fight in defense of the faith handed on…” (Jude 1:3)

2. What is objectionable in that version?

Allow me to rephrase the question:

What is objectionable in the commentary?

a. Interpretation

Dei Verbum encourages what has been attempted through NCB, “editions of Sacred Scripture (be) provided with suitable footnotes… also for the use of non-Christians and adapted to their situation.” (No. 25).

But the same document also cautions “Holy Scripture must be… interpreted in the sacred spirit… The living tradition of the whole church must be taken into account along with the harmony which exists between elements of the faith.” (No. 12). Adequate explanations so that the children of the church may safely and profitably become conversant with the sacred Scripture and be penetrated with their spirit”. (No. 25)

Whereas the attempt is surely commendable the interpretation goes against the living tradition which cannot be ignored and the ‘safety and profitability’ which the church recommends has been completely ignored or rather trampled upon.

Just to give one example of how the NCB is against the living tradition of the church (many can be cited):

CCC 2373: “Sacred Scripture and the Church’s traditional practice see in large families a sign of God’s blessing and the parents generosity”

NCB pg 11: admits “God’s blessing consists in having numerous children” but carefully avoids saying that “large family is a blessing” (context is ‘increase and multiply’)

Secondly “Fertility is a gift of God”- In todays context fertility can be also mean artificial or invitro fertility is it a blessing? –Where is the safety and profitability of the faith taken into consideration?

Thirdly: goes against the living tradition of the church by subtly suggesting that only in the Book of Genesis numerous children is a blessing and tries to show scriptural reference “Later biblical writers … what was important was not number of children” I challenge the NBC commentators to show me one text in the scripture to uphold this point.

The sole text quoted is Wisdom 4:1-6, which speaks of the virtue of the parent not the virtue of the children as the commentator deceptively, wants every one to believe.

Surely “the scholars felt that serious and contextualized commentary on the Sacred text, (and be) made specially for India” (NBC pg. vii) so that through this Bible commentary they can encourage the Indian masses to patronize the failed Govt.’s family planning program /policy. Which can be achieved though sterilization, abortion and even for monetary gain. Sarcasm apart this commentary is surely intended and subtly encourages to limit children.

 

 

 

 

The church when encourages the scholars to “provided with suitable footnotes… for the use of non-Christians and adapt to their situation” is so that Catholic traditions should reach them too not we adapt their view and practices. (NJB Ephesians 4:20-24)
“Now that is hardly the way you have learnt Christ, 21unless you failed to hear him properly when you were taught what the truth is in Jesus. 22 You were to put aside your… illusory desires. 23Your mind was to be renewed in spirit.”

b. Syncretism

In order to support the attempts of Hinduisation and Brahminisation, very often NOSTRA AETATE is quoted.

“#2. The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions (Hinduism, Buddhism likewise, other religions). She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings.”

But this needs to be read along with THE ROMAN LITURGY AND INCULTURATION III. Principles and Practical Norms for the Inculturation of the Roman Rite c) Necessary prudence

“#47. The liturgy is the expression of faith and Christian life, and so it is necessary to ensure that liturgical inculturation is not marked, even in appearance, by religious syncretism. This would be the case if the places of worship, the liturgical objects and vestments, gestures and postures let it appear as if rites had the same significance in Christian celebrations as they did before evangelization. The syncretism will be still worse if biblical readings and chants or the prayers were replaced by texts from other religions, even if these contain an undeniable religious and moral value.”

Together with EVANGELII NUNTIANDI “#5. the Gospel message is not an optional contribution for the Church. It is the duty incumbent on her by the command of the Lord Jesus, so that people can believe and be saved. This message is indeed necessary. It is unique. It cannot be replaced. It does not permit either indifference, syncretism or accommodation. It is a question of people’s salvation. It is the beauty of the Revelation that it represents. It brings with it a wisdom that is not of this world. It is able to stir up by itself faith-faith that rests on the power of God.” (11) It is truth. It merits having the apostle consecrate to it all his time and all his energies, and to sacrifice for it, if necessary, his own life”.

Suggestions for Dialogue with Members of Non-Christian Religions

Issued By Vatican Secretariat For Non-Christians TOWARD THE MEETING OF RELIGIONS suggests (in its forward) “It will likewise be necessary to avoid what would merely be a premature advance or a misleading syncretism

Even then syncretism is justified by NCB theologians on the basis that it was done in Europe so we too have the right to do it here in Asia. True many of the pagan cultural elements were assimilated into Christianity but I would like to remind these theologians that attempt to syncretism are not new they go back to third century and the church has fought the Roman religions to avoid syncretism. I quote Catholic Church History Pagan Imperialism (49 B.C.-313 A.D.) III. Growth of the Church (107-248)

13. Growth of Opposition: Early Persecutions B. Persecution by Oriental Syncretism

“During the second century the Roman melting pot had diluted Roman with Oriental blood. In the third century many of the emperors themselves were Orientals with but a veneer of Roman culture. With slight appreciation of Roman political and religious traditions, they were more concerned with introducing native religious ideas or fusing them into the philosophic synthesis called Syncretism. When Christians refused invitation to the new pantheon, they were pursued with the bigotry of thwarted Rotarianism. Legal forms were now less respected; significantly, the jurist Papinian coined the maxim, quidquid placuit principi legis habet vigorem”

In 202 “Syncretism became Julia Domna’s cherished dream. She sought to unite Oriental paganism and Christian heresies into a latitudinarian religion. All cults were sanctioned and temples erected to all gods as diverse manifestations of a single pantheistic deity. About this time Philostratus produced his Apollonius of Tyana, and Ammonius Saccas began to impart Neoplatonism at Alexandria, for a time numbering Origen among his students.”

In defense against syncretism the church faced severe persecution and many have even shed blood for the same. “Origen’s father Leonidas martyred. Other Egyptian martyrs were Basilides, the virgin Potamaeia and her mother. At Carthage, Sts. Felicitas and Perpetua were beheaded… a great number of victims.”

In fact the early Christians were considered atheist because they did not go to the Roman temples to worship, rather they met in the houses for the Eucharistic celebration. In fact St. Peter too started not in a temple but in the house or in a completely secular setup. I quote- Church History- Pagan Imperialism (49 B.C.-313 A.D.) II. Foundation of the Church 7. The Kings Viceroy: Petrine Primacy (30-67)

“On his arrival, St. Peter would plausibly at first have settled in the Jewish quarter in Trastevere. Since he was not a learned scribe like St. Paul, be probably was not invited to speak in the synagogues, and had to make converts by private contacts. Later legend locates him in the house of St. Paul’s friends, Aquila and Priscilla, on the Aventine, and at the Ostrian Villa of the Acilii, where he is known to have baptized. There as well as in a subsequent legendary abode in the house of Senator”

Even though Christianity was very much affected by the culture of the time Christianity never flourished in a religious atmosphere rather in a very secular atmosphere.

c. Liberation Theology.

NCB is loaded with liberation theology from starting to end. Be it the Exodus of the Hebrews (pg 88) or the hope of the Psalmist (pg 877) or the exorcism of the Gerasene Demoniac (1745). Highlighting the socio–political reasons of oppression and liberation. Imagine a Bible commentary never mentioning the spiritual reality of sin as cause of oppression. The church has following to say about Liberation theology:

INSTRUCTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE “THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION”

“Introduction: Liberation is first and foremost liberation from the radical slavery of sin. Its end and its goal is the freedom of the children of God, which is the gift of grace.”

 

 

“#2. “Theology of Liberation”, refers first of all to a special concern for the poor and the victims of oppression, which in turn begets a commitment to justice. Starting with this approach, we can distinguish several, often contradictory ways of understanding the Christian meaning of poverty and the type of commitment to justice

#3. the “theologies of liberation” present diverse theological positions. Their doctrinal frontiers are badly defined.”

#7. an authentic theology of liberation will be one which is rooted in the Word of God, correctly interpreted.     

#8. …..theologies of liberation, …. embraces a number of theological positions, or even sometimes ideological ones, which are not simply different but more often incompatible with one another.”

INSTRUCTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE “THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION”

X. A New Hermeneutic

“#5. The new hermeneutic inherent in the “theologies of liberation” leads to an essentially political re-reading of the Scriptures. Thus, a major importance is given to the Exodus event inasmuch as it is a liberation from political servitude. Likewise, a political reading of the Magnificat is proposed. The mistake here is not in bringing attention to a political dimension of the readings of Scripture, but in making of this one dimension the principal or exclusive component. This leads to a reductionist reading of the Bible.”

“#7. In giving such priority to the political dimension, one is led to deny the radical newness of the New Testament and above all to misunderstand the person of Our Lord Jesus Christ, true God and true man, and thus the specific character of the salvation he gave us, that is above all liberation from sin, which is the source of all evils.”

How is it that the NCB theologians forgot the spiritual dimension of liberation and go at length to emphasis the socio-political dimension of liberation? It is very evident that it is decisively avoided. If it is then does it not fall in the category of “obstinate denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith” which CCC No. 2089 calls as ‘Heresy’?

d. Sabotages true inculturisation

The process of inculturisation has been there through out the history of Salvation. There is a need for culturisation and for Indianisation. The church emphatically teaches that it should be done. India has vast number of cultures and traditions even among the Hindus themselves. But the way NCB theologian are attempting it – NCB is a conspiracy of the bigoted upper caste and those who favour it to hijack the Indian enculturization to particularism – syncretism and Brahminisation undermining all other traditions and cultures. By emphasizing on Brahminic religion and culture (which most present Christians do not have).

SAPIENTIA CHRISTIANA Section I – Faculty of Sacred Theology

“Article 68. 1. Revealed truth must be considered also in connection with contemporary, evolving, scientific accomplishments, so that it can be seen “how faith and reason give harmonious witness to the unity of all truth.” (19) Also, its exposition is to be such that, without any change of the truth, there is adaptation to the nature and character of every culture, taking special account of the philosophy and the wisdom of various peoples. However, all syncretism and every kind of false particularism are to be excluded.

e. Other versions of NCB too are controversial:

I quote – ‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Community_Bible’ if this site is to be trusted. I see no reason not to trust.

“Since its (Chinese edition of NCB) publication (1999), this translation has been in the centre of a controversy regarding the translation process and the content of its commentaries. Because of the criticisms, some regard this translation as being a poor translation unsuitable for lay people without extensive prior theological training;”

“A revised translation, also translated by Bernard and Louis Hureau and retitled the Bible des Peuples (literally “People’s Bible”), was published in 1998 and is the current French language translation of the Christian Community Bible. The version is still considered controversial by some in the Jewish community, not because of anti-semitic overtones but because of replacement theology overtones.”

3. Give us catechetical or theological reasons for your criticism

Catechetical Reasons:

Common man’s confusions. (many are quoted by Mr. Michael Prabhu in his report)

One real life example: In the meeting in Pune with a theologian from Papal Seminary, Pune on 20 September, to clarify doubts with regards to NCB, a question was asked why Upanishad is quoted in the Bible, example NCB pg 8:

The common mans reading of this text was: The NCB seems to be praising the upanishadic version of creation where creation is seen as emanation from the Divine reality rather than God who is an undisputed commander who commanded everything into existence. The concerned theologian clarified that in this particular case, where creation is understood as emanation of divine reality, the NBC commentary is criticizing the Indian Upanishad rather than appreciating it.

Each one, common man and the theologian have a right to understand it as they do. But if both our understanding it differently means the commentary is not clear, or rather it is confusing.

If the theologian’s answer has to be accepted – my question is what is the need to criticize the Upanishadic view here in the Bible commentary? Or what is the need to mention the Upanishadic version just because one word, ‘agre’ – ‘in the beginning’, is used. Or does the commentator wants the readers to appreciate the Upanishadic view?

Whatever the true intention the fact remain such citation are confusing the ordinary reader.

NCB: “But, in the Bible, creation is never understood as…” It sounds as if the Biblical writer made a big mistake by not understanding creation as the Upanishadic writer understands.

Theological objection

Forces a viewpoint on to a common man.

 

 

 

Commentary on Ps 5 (NCB pg 876,877) obliges us to read “The famous Gayatri-mantra … may we meditate on the most excellent lustre of the sun-god…..” it is a mere quotation. The rationale behind this (and behind various upanishadic quotations) is ‘if I quote someone /something, it does not necessarily mean I subscribe to the same thought or idea, I am merely mentioning it’.

Pastoral objection: the common man is wondering why it is quoted at all, if not to be appreciated, and to be practiced? Which means subtly NCB is recommending nature worship. The commentary never warns or cautions that ‘nature worship’ is not Christian practice or should not be practices. In what way is it helping the common man? Just to know that all religions favour mornings to pray? Which everybody already knows.

Theological objection: Is it a recommendation for meditation? In which case the church teaching on eastern methods of meditation should be seen into. I quote Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, SOME ASPECTS OF CHRISTIAN MEDITATION, III. Erroneous Ways of Praying

“12. With the present diffusion of eastern methods of meditation in the Christian world and in ecclesial communities, we find ourselves faced with a pointed renewal of an attempt, which is not free from dangers and errors, to fuse Christian meditation with that which is non-Christian. Proposals in this direction are numerous and radical to a greater or lesser extent. Some use eastern methods solely as a psycho-physical preparation for a truly Christian contemplation; others go further and, using different techniques, try to generate spiritual experiences similar to those described in the writings of certain Catholic mystics. (13) Still others do not hesitate to place that absolute without image or concepts, which is proper to Buddhist theory, (14) on the same level as the majesty of God revealed in Christ, which towers above finite reality. To this end, they make use of a “negative theology,” which transcends every affirmation seeking to express what God is, and denies that the things of this world can offer traces of the infinity of God. Thus they propose abandoning not only meditation on the salvific works accomplished in history by the God of the Old and New Covenant, but also the very idea of the One and Triune God, who is Love, in favor of an immersion “in the indeterminate abyss of the divinity.” (15) These and similar proposals to harmonize Christian meditation with eastern techniques need to have their contents and methods ever subjected to a thorough-going examination so as to avoid the danger of falling into syncretism.

Different planes:

Theology today is highly scientific and systematic; and like all sciences starts with a hypothesis and goes on prove the hypothesis and the basic hypothesis of theology is- to doubt the Scripture. Like all sciences does not believe in miracles but tries to give a rational explanation for all religious experiences. Whereas the premise of a common man is – faith, to believe that it is really God who has said it, or done it. He does not bother about trying to rationally understand his words or events in the scripture. Each needs to be respected and defended.

4. Do you feel this version would cause confusion and what do you demand from the church leadership?

Surely the commentary has, as mentioned above and much more can be said, and will cause greater confusion. It is not a pastoral commentary for lay people, it is a theological commentary and can be utilized by the students of philosophy and religion and by non Christians who are interested. Before that it should be revised by unbiased and Vatican theologians, so as to remove the syncretism, theological and doctrinal errors. (The concerned theologians and Bishops are expecting laity to mutely accept this interpretation; they too should be ready to accept church’s intervention) Secondly it should be published separately and not along with the text of the Scripture. Thirdly it should be made available as most books are made available; it should not be pushed into the hands of common man with marketing tactics.

5. Is this version not an attempt to inculturate and reach out to large section of Indians who have no idea of what bible is all about?

Not at all, because the Hindus are looking at it with more suspicion and contempt. I quote- From The Times of India, July 26, 2008 “Vatican hopes Indian Bible will translate into surge of converts. The New Community Bible is part of an attempt by the Vatican to attract more converts in the world’s second-most populous country as congregations decline in Europe and North America.” RC Sharma, Delhi, India

“This is the most ridiculous and outrageous efforts. Sanatana Dharma will flourish till the end of time. Long live Hinduism.”

From the above sentiments we can say – A feeling is created among Indians that Christianity has nothing to offer and so Christian are including and using Hinduism in their religion. So they would prefer to stick to Hinduism why bother to know about Christianity if they too need Hindu religion to understand and live better life.

6. Do you plan to take your opposition to a higher level?

Yes

7. Have you contacted the editors of the version explaining your stand?

It is Bishops responsibility not editors.

8. Are you a charismatic or do you belong to prayer group?

Does it matter? True, the Charismatics are unfairly blamed as the only ones opposing, it is not true. At the same time I admire the Charismatics for they have the courage to do so. Secondly it only those who are reading plus studying the Bible who are the ones who are voicing their opposition to NCB. The majority of the Catholics do not read the Bible at all. Than there are those who care a less about what is in it.

9. Would you call yourself a conservative Christian?

Emphatically No.

10. Any other comment or thoughts you would want to add

A lots- but running out of time for the moment.

Fr. Victor Borde [Neo Catechumenal Way] PUNE

 

 

From: “John De Britto” < Fr.
John de Britto
> To: “prabhu” <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net>

Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28 PM

From: “John De Britto” < Fr.
John de Britto
> To:
fernandoleo74@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: SUGGESTED CORRECTIONS

Dear Leo, Go ahead! If it is not too late, I suggest to take in account the corrections of Michael Prabhu.
I am not an expert in English, and it seems the corrections are sound… Anyway I am grateful to you for your zeal for the defense of the truth. Thank you once again, God bless you! Fr. John de Britto OSB, FRANCE

DRAFT OF UCAN (Union of Catholic Asian News) INTERVIEW WITH THEOLOGIAN FR JEAN DE BRITTO, OSB

Benedictine Father Jean de Britto, 54, who teaches in various Institutes in Europe and also in India, and earlier at Saint Peter’s Seminary, Bangalore, told UCA News, “There is lot of relativism in this version.  It is very dangerous to Catholics because it can destroy or diminish the faith because it equates all religions.”

He said that Pope Benedict XVI has condemned the doctrine of relativism many times recently.

The French priest who has a doctorate in theology said that Pope Benedict as Cardinal Ratzinger before being elected on the opening day of conclave which elected him as the pontiff warned about “labeling people who have clear faith based on the creeds of the Church as fundamentalists, and he also warned about the dictatorship of relativism.”

Apart from relativism, there is a real danger of syncretism in this version and there is a cocktail of bits of different religious beliefs which are not in agreement with one another, Father Britto who was one of the experts at the Synod of the Bishops in 2001, in Rome, said.

The quality of translation is very good, we have nothing to object about it.  However, some of the accompanying commentaries cause confusion, the Benedictine priest remarked.

He referred to the commentary on the friendship between Jonathan and David. The NCB compares them with Ram and Lakshman, characters in the Hindu epic Ramayana.

How can we compare two historical persons who lived lives pleasing to God with two mythical persons? the priest asked. “I think it is completely crazy,” he added.

In the gospel of Luke, the Annunciation has been reduced to a dramatization of the inner experience of Mary and no longer an historical fact, and commentaries for the passage makes it look a fictional story, he pointed out

In the same way, Isaiah’s prophecy about the virginal birth of Christ is denied in the accompanying commentary, he pointed out.

This version will not help non-Christians understand the Bible because of deficiencies, he said.

It has become a fashion for some scholars to make show of so-called science, in order to impress ignorant people, and some of the contributors are taking advantage of their status to flood the market with new theories, he said. “This kind of work leads to new age spirituality,” he explained.

The theologian said that Church authorities may have acted too hastily to give imprimatur and nihil obstat (no objection) to this work and since it is too late to recall, it will be good to review it in the second edition, he advised.

Some among Indian theologians are committing the same mistakes many of the European or American committed 40 years back, he recalled.

In order to avoid a superficial view of inculturation we have to distinguish between what is truly Asian or Indian and what belongs to Asian religions, because many religious practices have developed from everyday life and if we confuse the two, we shall arrive to syncretistic production and to destruction of the genuine Catholic way of life, Father Britto told UCA News

We have to discern what is acceptable and universal in the various religious attitudes and what is specifically tied to specific non-Christian religions, the theologian said.

Inculturation should come from below i.e. from people and in a homogeneous process and not from the brain of some searchers in laboratories. That is how have worked inculturation during 20 centuries of Church history. Theologians can help, but the people are really the true partners and often their good sense is denied, he remarked.

 

MY OWN RESPONSE TO UCAN, Union of Catholic Asian News QUESTIONNAIRE 28 SEP 2008:

1. Why are you criticising the new version of Bible?

I am not criticizing the fidelity to the originals of the Scripture texts of the St. Pauls’ New Community Bible [NCB]. I leave them to the scholars and theologians who have studied the original languages of Hebrew and Greek, to examine.

I, however, firmly reject many of the commentaries in the New Community Bible. As a consequence of their inclusion in the NCB, it is my opinion that the NCB has become unfit for personal prayer, study, sharing, teaching or evangelisation.

2. What is objectionable in that version?

Though many of the commentaries in the NCB are excellent, there are major errors — of commission — in several others.

There are broadly two types of problems in the commentaries. The first is what we see as the personal interpretations by the theologians of a number of events in both the Old and the New Testaments. While they ignore the “sign” or faith value of these events, they philosophise on alternative explanations for these “stories”, thus ignoring traditional understanding of them or casting doubts on their authenticity. The second is the parallels — some of which appear to be blatantly contrived — drawn by them with nature religion, pagan deities and mythological figures against landmark Biblical events and real historical personalities in an effort to justify the “Indianisation” or “inculturation” of the Word of God which is an instruction manual for Christian living.

 

 

 

This problem is compounded by the fact that there is no one single culture that represents India. The variety of cultures, especially the tribal ones, has been ignored. The “culture” that has been concentrated on almost exclusively is that which is associated with the majority religion, which is Hinduism.

Christianity is exclusive. The NCB is inclusive. Its critics are unanimous in their conclusion that the NCB promotes relativism, religious pluralism and syncretism, all of which are strongly condemned by the Church at regular and frequent intervals.

In the NCB, there are also omissions of issues that are intrinsic or specific to the culture and the religion of the majority of Indians that must be incorporated in any “Indianised” or “inculturated” Bible.

3. Give us catechetical or theological reasons for your criticism

I have given many reasons in my eight-page report. You have received the same in soft copy as well as in hard copy. You may quote from it. I have just released a detailed follow-up report of 38-pages. It has not yet been publicly circulated.

A hard copy of it was given to you during our interview at the Archbishop’s House on the evening of September 26, 2008.

The follow-up report will be sent to the Bishops concerned during the course of this week.

In the meantime, I have had discussions with priests, some of whom are reputed theologians in India and overseas, by email, on the ‘phone, and in person. Studying the commentaries of the NCB together, we have found many more very serious errors and problems and these will be the subject of yet another report in the near future.

4. Do you feel this version would cause confusion and what do you demand from the church leadership?

There are two parts to your above question. The answer to the first part is YES. It has already caused confusion.

On receiving complaints from a number of priests and lay persons about the NCB soon after its release, I first wrote to all of the 200-odd Bishops [including the retired Bishops] and all the Commissions of the CBCI, intimating them about the situation within two weeks of the release of the NCB.

I then completed a study of the commentaries and submitted an eight-page analysis, indicating some of the problem areas to the more than fifty Bishops and CBCI Commissions who had responded to my first letter.

I received responses from two Cardinals and several Bishops generally assuring me that they were studying my report and intended to discuss it at a meeting of the Bishops’ Standing Committee [which concluded a couple of days ago].

I have also received letters from around three hundred Catholics, priests and lay persons. They continue to come in.

Some of the laity are leaders of ministries and preachers of repute. Many are ordinary people, some of who have converted to Catholicism from the majority religion or whose family members have left the Church to join Pentecostal denominations.

Their letters express disbelief, shock, anguish, regret, anger and a variety of emotions including confusion.

I have also visited the internet news sites, websites and blogs of secular Indian newspapers that reported on the release of the NCB, and those of Catholic traditionalists and Hindu fundamentalists, and I read the comments posted by their readers.

I suggest that the Bishops read all the letters received by this ministry, and also visit these sites to understand how the NCB has been received among different groups of people in this nation. Now, to answer part two of your question.

Though many of the commentaries are excellent, there are major errors in enough of several others to warrant that the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India [CBCI] recall the NCB, halt sales and a reprint which has already been initiated, correct the errors before a reprint is permitted, explain to the faithful as to how such a “Bible” was released with the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur, and engage in an across-the-table discussion with theologians, priests and lay persons who have objected to the NCB before a revised version with corrected commentaries is reprinted.

5. Is this version not an attempt to inculturate and reach out to large section of Indians who have no idea of what bible is all about?

I do not doubt that the NCB is an “attempt” to inculturate. It remains only an attempt. The scholars and the theologians who wrote the controversial commentaries have – for want of another word – only managed to Hindu-ise the Bible.

Such a “Bible” will always remain unacceptable to large sections of Catholics. There is a consensus that the NCB will not and cannot “reach out” to non-Christians because the living Word has been compromised by the said commentaries.

The Tamil weekly Nakkheeran ran a three-page story on the NCB in its September 3, 2008 issue. Two of the accompanying drawings depict the results of this “inculturation”: in them Jesus has become half of the Hindu deities Krishna and Rama.

Hindu and Muslim religious leaders in the West do not “inculturate” to become acceptable, either for inter-religious dialogue or to promote communal harmony, or to proselytize. Their priests dress like traditional poojaris and imams, their places of worship look like temples and mosques and they do not start preaching in the vernacular or promote the study of Latin.

They do not dress up the idols of their gods to look like Europeans or Chinese or Africans.

They do not replace incense sticks [agarbattis] with candles, bhajans with the Gregorian chant, or Aum with Amen.

Why, then, do our Indian theologians strive to propagate the reverse in the Catholic Church?

To be a “Christian” is to proclaim Jesus Christ, i.e. to preach the “Good News” [Gk. evangelion], the Gospel. In summary, to be a Christian is to be an evangelizer. It is a contradiction in terms to claim that the NCB can be used to evangelize [and I do not mean conversion]. The NCB will only serve the purposes of a powerful section of the Church that promotes inter-faith prayer meetings and inter-religious dialogue to the exclusion of evangelisation.

6. Do you plan to take your opposition to a higher level? Have you contacted the editors of the version explaining your stand?

Again, there are two parts to your question.

 

 

 

Rather than being looked at as the “opposition”, though we do categorically oppose the NCB, we see ourselves as Catholics who are loyal to Rome. It is our right and duty, as by Canon Law, to oppose error wherever it may be found by taking it up with our Bishops. However, bureaucracy and the Church leaders’ dismissive attitude towards the anonymous laity lead to the inevitable delays that have resulted in the secular media getting hold of copies of the eight-page report sent to Catholics, and asking us for interviews. To decline to be interviewed was impossible. Even today, exactly three months from the date of release of the NCB, we have received no specific commitment from the CBCI.

From our past experience in writing to the Bishops on serious matters pertaining to the Faith, nothing has ever come of those reports into which a tremendous effort of time, money and research were introduced. Apparently the Bishops are initiating action and a response in the case of the NCB, something that is probably unprecedented in the history of the Indian Church, having resulted only from a united stand of lay Catholics from all over India and their using the media.

Several priests who oppose the NCB do not want to be quoted by name for fear of retribution from their superiors. Among the laity who have written there is a pessimistic apprehension that the Bishops — who are the real teaching authority if the Church — will stand behind the powerful liberal theologians who have gained ascendancy over the last four decades to become Her virtual teaching authority, and try to convince the laity to accept the NCB with some cosmetic changes.

One Bishop held a diocesan-level meeting with dissident faithful; instead of talking to his people himself, he used a liberal theologian from the local seminary — which itself teaches and practices error — to defend the NCB. The Bishop who gave the Imprimatur, when contacted by me on the telephone on the very day that we initiated our crusade flatly said that he was not interested in discussing the NCB matter with me. How will such attitudes of our pastors be viewed by the laity?

Barring an exceptional situation, it is inevitable that the NCB issue will be taken to Rome. I understand that some people have already forwarded copies of our pilot report to Rome, though we have not made any such request. Other priests and theologians have already initiated courses of action that will bring the NCB to the attention of the dicasteries concerned at the Holy See. The NCB is not the disease but a symptom of a larger malaise that afflicts the Indian Church, and so the last word must be from Rome.

It is not understood by the faithful whether or not issues such as an inculturated Bible are to be also approved by Rome.

7. Did the editors reply to you? In that case, what did they say to you?

I wrote no less than 25 letters to different addresses of the publishers, St. Pauls, in India. I did not get a single response.

The Indian Catholic media has continued to report on the NCB but not on the opposition to it. The pro-NCB bias of The Examiner, Mumbai, is a prime example. Letters to The Examiner in support of the NCB have been published by its editor, Fr Anthony Charanghat, who is also the spokesperson of the Archdiocese of Bombay. This ministry has copies of over a dozen letters opposing the NCB that have not been published by the same priest. This is quite obviously an attempt to muzzle the freedom of speech of Catholics and to make it appear that the NCB has been welcomed by the Catholics of India.

8. Are you a charismatic or do you belong to prayer group?

I am not a member of any prayer group and I have not attended a charismatic prayer meeting for almost ten years.

Catholics opposing the NCB have been labeled as narrow-minded, fundamentalists, etc. [see the letters to the editor, The Examiner]. The Bishop, who has been the “Episcopal Advisor” to the Catholic Charismatic Renewal for decades, and who invited the seminary professor to defend the NCB, himself described us, at a meeting of charismatic leaders in Mumbai, as “lacking in Biblical scholarship”. Again, in his presence the theologian deprecatingly called us “charismatic fundamentalists”.

Though the reverend Bishop was himself included in the insult, he made no attempt to correct the theologian.

It appears that the theologians and some Bishops are of the opinion that only the so-called “charismatics” are silly or emotional or fundamentalist enough to oppose the NCB [and the New Age in the Indian Church]. They seem to forget the meaning of the Greek word charisma and the fact that all Christians are expected to be charismatic in spirituality.

I must add that it is the senior leaders of the charismatic renewal in India who have been deafeningly silent on the NCB.

Preachers of the Word they may be, and some have agreed with me in private that the NCB is a parody of the Bible, but to put their opinions in writing would be to fall from grace with the Bishops and jeopardize their popular ministries.

9. Would you call yourself a conservative Christian?

I myself have been described as “the most right-wing Christian in India”. My response is that the theologians are so far to the extreme left that, from their perspective, Catholics like me are seen as right-wing even though we stand at the centre.

The condescending attitude of the theologians towards the laity is exemplified by this excerpt from Fr Subhash Anand, one of the NCB commentators to me:

“I went through your ‘Update and Alert’ concerning the NCB, and I feel sad about it. If your name were Michael Ratzinger, or Michael Bush, or Michael Ottaviani, I would understand. But you are Michael PRABHU!”

10. Any other comment or thoughts you would want to add.

a. The NCB is a vehicle and tool of the Catholic Ashrams movement that I have shown in my separate reports is inimical to the true Church. Four of the thirty NCB commentators are contributors to the eight hundred page occult work of the ashram leaders, Shabda Shakti Sangam !

Rui de Menezes, SJ
and
Subash Anand
condemned the Vatican Document Dominus Iesus
and these two priests are NCB commentators!
T.K. John
criticized Rome and defended the writings of censured
Jesuits Jacques Dupuis
and Anthony de Mello. He, too, is a commentator of the NCB as well as a contributor to
Shabda Shakti Sangam.

The NCB is a giant leap forward for those theologians who are demanding an autonomous Indian Church.

b. The NCB is a New Age Bible. It would encourage the growth of New Age philosophies and practices in the Church.

 

 

 

The basic tenets of the New Age and Brahminism are identical. So the NCB issue has a critical significance for Indian Catholics. This is not to denigrate the majority religion but to maintain our identity as Christians. Our Bishops need to spell out what, in Hinduism or in traditional Indian practices, is culture, and what is intrinsically religious or associated with the worship of pagan deities. Masters of the language of diplomacy in other situations should have no problem with this.

Other Bishops Conferences and Theological Commissions had come out with Documents against the New Age etc. even before the Vatican did so. In fact the Vatican consulted their Documents when preparing its own.

c. In my eight-page analysis of the NCB, I have argued with evidences that India does not need this so-called new version of the Bible. If the NCB commentaries are what is called by the theologians as “contextualized theology”, the Church [that’s us] does not need it.

d. The judgement of God-fearing Catholics is that these theologians do not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

e. The NCB controversy is not unprecedented. The Dutch Catechism of the 1960s also ran into trouble with Rome. Over the past decade or two, many theologians have been censured, castigated, reprimanded or stopped from teaching and their books have been banned. Some of these were Indian, or Europeans living in India. A senior Archbishop who headed a Congregation at the Vatican wrote for one of them the Forward to one of his books that later was severely censured. Any one can make a mistake. It requires a real Christian, to admit one’s mistake, personal or corporate, and institute corrective action. Business conglomerates have not only withdrawn defective products found defective or injurious to health but also compensated customers. In the case of the NCB, which is a danger to the spiritual health and eternal salvation of Catholics, is not the same to be expected of our Bishops?

MICHAEL PRABHU, CATHOLIC APOLOGIST, METAMORPHOSE CATHOLIC MINISTRIES, CHENNAI

 

From:
Fr. A. C. Jose
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: NCB Comments

Dear Michael, Attached comes the file with answers given to Leo. Fr. Jose
						{attachment}:
						

RESPONSE OF FR JOSEPH AYMANATHIL TO UCAN, Union of Catholic Asian News QUESTIONNAIRE
				

Dear Leo, Thank you for this mail asking for my opinion on the NCB published by St. Paul’s Society with commentaries in the Indian context.

I took two days to cool down before replying because your last two questions were irrelevant, motivated, discriminatory and mischievous. God knows best the media people who play games. Now to answer some of your questions:

Why are you criticising the new version of Bible?

If you were a Christian with deep awareness of the uniqueness of the Bible as the only Word of God, you would not have asked this question. If you knew that people of other religions do not dilute their scriptures by equating them through comparisons with other scriptures, you would not hesitate in pointing out the weaknesses of the NCB commentaries. Go and check if other religions downgrade their scriptures in this manner. Go and check the Hebrew Bible followed by the Jews and see if they permit any nonsense like assimilating anything from other religions through commentaries or any other way.

Do you understand the sanctity of the Bible profoundly? Do you not know that commentaries are not supposed to dilute the uniqueness of this revelation but to strengthen it? Commentaries are to follow the official guidelines of the Church mentioned in the Dei Verbum (11-12) and the CCC 84-87 (Catechism of the Catholic Church).

The sanctity of the Bible respects its canonicity, that is, from the first Word till the last Word is within the inspired text and hence immutable and not be tampered with even through commentaries.

Commentaries published within the Bible do more damage than those outside.

The commentaries of certain exegetes do also some damage in as much as they do not strengthen faith when they cast doubts on the messages of faith in the Bible. Jesus did not discuss whether Jonah was historically a real prophet but he pointed out the sign value, the sign of the resurrection of the Messiah. Jesus never tried to demythologise the Bible but he pulled out the teachings and the original purpose, as in the case of God creating man and woman signifying also the indissolubility of their union.

I am criticising the NCB because through commentaries the publishers are diverting the purpose of the Bible given to us. The Bible is not meant to unite us with other religions through text comparisons but by bearing witness to it through love and service to all, including people of other religions. Our Bible was endorsed by the Blood of Christ that does not agree with the so-called scriptures that are not inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Do you feel this version would cause confusion and what do you demand from the church leadership?

As to the question if some would be misled by this NCB, let me tell you that passivity in faith has led many to remain indifferent. The greatest damage will be done in the theologates and houses of formation of religious and priests. There is slow poisoning already taking place that is imperceptible to many. That will increase more with this NCB. I don’t expect anything from the Church leadership in India especially what is living peacefully in the heart of Indian Saffron Church. They are safely hidden way for fear of the Saffron lobby within the Church and do not know what to do. It is enough to pray for them.

Would you call yourself a conservative Christian?

About being conservative, I do not what it means. I believe in a being a Christian to the full with total commitment to Christ and his Word.

Are you a charismatic or do you belong to prayer group?

As to the question, if I am a charismatic, let me tell you that I am a Roman Catholic priest. I believe in the same way as the apostles Paul and Peter did about the Scriptures.

 

 

 

Would you question them if they were charismatics? I understand that your questionnaire is meant to sift out those who you think are not balanced and good Indian Catholics. You have your agenda in setting these questions that are good for dismissing any opposition to the NCB.

Is this version not an attempt to inculturate and reach out to large section of Indians who have no idea of what bible is all about?

Do not take think that the people of other faiths are fools and easily won over by these commentaries. They take the interpretation of their gurus only.

I am also pointing out the divisive approach followed by those who Hinduize the Bible and call it Indianization. The tribal Christians, who in their blood are opposed to Hinduism and are not related to such religious traditions, who are also a big number in India are being told by the NCB to appreciate what comes from the Hindu scriptures. This is offensive to them. Do not take them for granted.

Indianization should be understood at the level of culture, not religion. What has happened with all the promotion of “saffron” and the “lotus” done in the past by the Catholics? The saffron and lotus did come to power and did nail us, causing us to bleed. The publication of the Indian NCB seems to have been a prelude to the violence that is being unleashed against the Christians in India now.

Any other comment or thoughts you would want to add

“Saffron” within the Church and “Saffron” without the Church! Which is the greater threat?

Sorry if I have not answered all the questions. My final word is that I have no faith in the exercise you are doing because your questions betray your intentions. I also do not want to campaign against those who are hardened in their hearts. They can only retaliate with more vengeance. This kind can be cast out only by prayer and fasting.

With best wishes, Dr. Fr. Jose Aymanathil, SDB.,
[DOCTOR IN CANON LAW] EDITOR, STREAMS OF LIVING WATER
Nitika Don Bosco 52A Radhanath Chowdhury Rd. KOLKATA 700 015 dt. 26-09-08

 

From:
Fr.
Maxim Pereira

To:

fernandoleo74@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu1

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:15 AM

RESPONSE OF FR MAXIM PEREIRA TO UCAN, Union of Catholic Asian News QUESTIONNAIRE

Dear Leo, in response to your questions forwarded to me by Michael, I only wish to say the following:
I have not personally seen or read the NCB bible. My only source of info. regarding errors in it is Michael and I am certain that they are true because when Michael makes a point it, he makes it after much study and reflection. I agree with his findings regarding NCB.
I completely disagree with NCB if the report/findings are true. Therefore NCB needs revision and catechesis about it.
Inculturation is good. But Indianisation which is largley understood as saffronization, Brahminization, Hinduization, demonisation is absolutely wrong. India is not only about Hindus or Brahmins. There is nothing called one Hindu culture in India. Majority of India are not Hindus but Dalits. India though apparently is Hindu is a conglomeration of a variety of cultures and traditions and religions…
Any way of Hinduisation of the Bible, the church architecture, the liturgy… is demonisation which I strongly oppose. This is all I can say. Cordially, Maxim Pereira, OCD., 
EMMAUS Counselling Centre Reis da Costa, Feira Alta (Near the Court) Mapusa, GOA– 403 507

AVILA JYOTHI, Carmelite Seminary Near Sports Complex Peddem, Mapusa, GOA-403 507

 

From:
Fr Conrad Saldanha
To:
Leo Fernando
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:43 AM

Subject: Re: Message from UCAN

RESPONSE OF FR CONRAD SALDANHA TO UCAN, Union of Catholic Asian News QUESTIONNAIRE

Dear Leo, Thanks for the pain and effort you have taken to tackle this problem of the NCB. I am herewith attaching the Doc. Thanks Fr Conrad Saldanha, Mumbai
{attachment}:

1.
Why are you criticising the new version of Bible?

C : It’s not the version of the Bible but the Commentary or footnotes, its goal and purpose which is incongruent with the official teachings of the Catholic Church and with what is illegitimately claimed by the authorities when promoting the Bible. It can never promote true inculturation nor can it be an instrument of dialogue, nor can it give us a right perspective of other religions. What is more the accepting of the footnotes are sure to lead one astray from one’s cherished Catholic faith.

2. What is objectionable in that version?

C : Not the version but the Commentary or the footnotes in the NCB (I prefer to refer to it as the “New Controversial Book”) and the whole vision behind the exercise. I even doubt the Catholicity of some of the so-called Scholars and their commitment to the Catholic faith and the Roman Pontiff.

3. Give us catechetical or theological reasons for your criticism

C : Broadly speaking we are trying here to compare two divergent entities, viewpoints, viz. nature religion v/s revealed religion and so to bring nature religion on the same footing and to claim that there is are Biblical values is indeed sound syncretism- which is abhorrent. There are Biblical values in the secular writings and prose of the world too. Do they want to come out with another NCB for that? The context of these writings and the source and purpose makes the thought even if they are same differ in value. Go learn about this truth in the world! The teachings of Jesus are of much value because it comes from him. Its value is enhanced by his Divinity, Sonship and the Cross.

 

 

 

Further, to promote these values through twists and turns to change a Christian (reader’s) worldview towards accommodation is repugnant. (“Taking into account the rich cultural and religious heritage of India, the commentary makes references to the Biblical values found in other religions of India”- Quote from one of the promos on their website.)

4. Do you feel this version would cause confusion and what do you demand from the church leadership?

C : There are two types of confused people: the knowing and the unknowing; the knowing always are aware that there is something wrong and the state of the mind in the light of the Gospel assures them that there is a flaw. On the other hand there are the ignorant, unfortunately the majority, who swallow what is given to them by the shepherds. These may never lay claim to confusion. We judge them in the light of the truth of the Gospel as confused. Their latter actions are incongruent with the official church norms.

The point is this: Is the NCB a bundle of confusion in the light of sound doctrine? If yes, then remember: confusion can only sow further confusion and there are no two ways about that. The Church, its shepherds should send a fitting message to the laity and to these so called biblical scholars and to the world by recalling all the books sold.

5. Is this version not an attempt to inculturate and reach out to large section of Indians who have no idea of what the Bible is all about?

C : Inculturation primarily has to do with cultures and not religions. This is no inculturation but an attempt at Hinduisation. Catholic Inculturation has its goal in proclamation and evangelization even through local cultures. By venturing to only talk about the so called ‘Biblical values’ of other religions, how is it promoting this cause to evangelize?

Prove it to me that they want to reach out to large sections of the Indians.

What attempts have been made to sell it to the have-nots and to non-Christians? The fact that they offered discount to Christians with the lure of an increase in price if delayed was deceptive in itself- Was it philanthropy? Check the balance sheet! India is largely poor, did they cater to them with their price tag?

Why then an English version? The Protestants are doing much better in supplying subsidised and even free Bibles in vernaculars to the poor. In contrast the activity of the SSP in India and the type of books (New Age) they sell and their motivation in keeping with their original charism is questionable and there is a lot to be desired.

6. Do you plan to take your opposition to a higher level? Have you contacted the editors of the version explaining your stand?

C : Since the ultimate authorisation has come from the Bishops themselves there does not exist any reason for one to approach the editors of the NCB. I did write to one of the prominent Bishop but have not received any reply so far.
At least they should have done a thorough research and given due credence to what Michael Prabhu and the likes have painstakingly done to expose what is heretical.

7. Did the editors reply to you? In that case, what did they say to you?

C: I did have a chat with one of the SSP priest and I did express my strong displeasure especially at their all out attack on the laity as playing spoilsports to their designs.

8. Are you a charismatic or do you belong to prayer group?

C : I am a Catholic Priest, an ordained minister of the Roman Catholic Church, serving in the Archdiocese of Bombay. Are my arguments here from a Charismatic or prayer group point of view?

9. Would you call yourself a conservative Christian?

C : To judge someone as conservative is a perspective and Christianity is a call which entails a move or growth towards the objective truth (the law, the defined Dogmas, etc.). For many it is persepectivalism held with objectivity which leads to broadening of vision! But what they fail to see is their own folly. The freedom they seek in perspectivalism is like the freedom of the indulgent who is unaware but ultimately ends up in bondage and disintegration. It is these free birds who live in a make believe world of false freedom that judge! By which criteria do I judge myself?

10. Any other comment or thoughts you would want to add

C : In the present irresponsible circumstances there seem to be need for further strictures on inculturation and Biblical scholarships especially in India. Our concern is for the flock who are already bombarded with post modern thinking and the truth is already relativistic for them.

Fr Conrad Saldanha, MUMBAI

 

From:
Fr. Joseph Vas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: some explanations on NCB

Dear Mike, see I have worked out the answers, Fr. Juze {attachment}:

RESPONSE OF FR JOSEPH VAS TO UCAN, Union of Catholic Asian News QUESTIONNAIRE
				

Dear Leo, You had asked me to answer a few questions on the NCB issue. I have done the same please find them as under. Yours in the divine word, Fr.Juze Vas, SVD., INDORE

1. Why are you criticising the new version of Bible?

By reading it and referring to the commentaries, the believer will not be able to distinguish which is the Word of God and which is not.

2. What is objectionable in that version?

Making the Word of God equal to the religious texts of other religions is a dangerous trend which will lead to many heresies.     

3. Give us catechetical or theological reasons for your criticism

 

 

 

 

In the first letter to Timothy, Paul clearly instructs him: “You must teach and preach these things. Whoever teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the true words of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the teaching of our religion is swollen with pride and knowing nothing. He has an unhealthy desire to argue and quarrel about words, and this brings on jealousy, dispute, insults, evil suspicions, and constant arguments from people whose minds do not function and who no longer have the truth.”(1 Timothy 6:2b-5a)

“The Spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in later times; they will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons. Such teachings are spread by deceitful liars, whose consciences are dead, as if burnt with a hot iron.” (1 Timothy 4:1-2)

Peter clearly instructs the early Christians how they must believe the teachers correctly: “False prophets appeared in the past among the people, and in the same way false teachers will appear among you. They will bring in destructive, untrue doctrines, and will deny the Master who redeemed them, and so they will bring upon themselves sudden destruction. Even so, many will follow their immoral ways; and because of what they do, others will speak evil of the Way of truth, in their greed these false teachers will make a profit out of telling you made-up stories.” 2 Peter 2:1-2

Again Timothy clearly says, “All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching the truth, rebuking error, correcting faults, and giving instruction for right living, so that the person who serves God may be fully qualified and equipped to do every kind of good deed.” (2 Timothy 3:16)

“I solemnly urge you to preach the message, to insist upon proclaiming it to convince, reproach, and encourage, as you teach with all patience. The time will come when people will not listen to sound doctrine, but will follow their own desire, and will collect for themselves more and more teachers… Do the work of a preacher of the Good News and perform your whole duty as a servant of God.” (2 Timothy 4: 1b-5)

Therefore I feel any person who will try to place other religious texts along with the Word of God and try to belittle the value of the Word is doing a great disservice to the Faith.

The Psalm 115:3 says, “Our God is in the heavens; he does whatever he pleases, their idols are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but do not speak; eyes but do not see. They have ears, but do not feel; feet, but do not walk; and they do not make a sound in their throat, those who make them are like them; so are all who trust in them.

The Psalm 115:3 clearly states the error of believing in the man-made God, and the Hindu religion surely attempts to do this. So how can one include references to them in the commentaries in the NCB which is said to be the Word of God?

The Catechism of Catholic Church says in #304: An so we see the Holy Spirit, the principal author of Sacred Scripture, often attributing actions to God without mentioning any secondary causes. This is not ‘primitive mode of speech,’ but a profound way of recalling God’s primacy and absolute Lordship over history and the world, and so of educating of his people to trust in him.

Christ is the Unique Word of the Sacred Scripture Dei Verbum #11

John 20:31, “These have been written in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God and that through your faith in him you may have life.” When the Word of God is put along with the other words surely this will not become a truth.

I strongly object to this teaching in this NCB. This I cannot tolerate as Christian teaching. This will cause many to abandon the faith and take shelter in the Pentecostal movements.

4. Do you feel this version would cause confusion and what do you demand from the church leadership?

Yes absolutely.

5. Is this version not an attempt to inculturate and reach out to large section of Indians who have no idea of what bible is all about?

Whom is the author trying to please? The Hindus have already formed their opinion. If they are really interested in the Christian faith they will naturally come to us. It is not necessary to prove to them.

Often the Devil will try to come through the backdoor. Let us be sure we do not fall into this trap

6. Do you plan to take your opposition to a higher level? Have you contacted the editors of the version explaining your stand?

Yes

7. Did the editors reply to you? In that case, what did they say to you?

No

8. Are you a charismatic or do you belong to prayer group?

No

9. Would you call yourself a conservative Christian?

No

10. Any other comment or thoughts you would want to add

I was involved in developing an Indian method of reading, meditating and reflecting on the Divine Word. I called this method ‘Akhand Paatt”. I never compromised on the Word of God. Though I took lead from the other scriptures the way they used to read I never used that scripture. But depended on our own fullness of the Word. I called this “Akhand Paatt” Lexio Continua. I was involved in this method for 10 years in Gujarat with the permission of the then Bishop of Baroda, Rt. Rev. Bishop Francis Braganza S.J. DD. I began this ministry in a small village in the State of Gujarat in the year 1988 and continued till 1998 till I was attacked by the Fundamentalists who felt that I was impinging on their heritage which I was not. Though I was using Indian method, I was not resorting to Indian scriptures. I was totally depending on the Divine Scriptures of the Catholic Church.

 

 

I never compromised on any canonical values of the Scripture. I did not want to please any one. My only aim of resorting to this method of reading the Scripture continuously was to develop a method of evangelization of catechesis which would assist us in these days of difficulties in Evangelization.

I was attacked by the fundamentalists on 15th of August 1998. They ransacked my ashram and harmed my person. But thank God nothing happened to me. Then due to illness I had to abandon the ashram. This was attacked again during the Godhra tragedy. The Hindus do not want any one to be encroaching on their way of prayer.

We may totally depend on our own religious Scriptures.

The main difficulty of inculturation or enculturation is Brahminisation which does justice to one type of religious belief in our country. We have many religions and we will never be able to do justice to all. One or the other will always be left out, so we have to be extremely careful.

Father Joseph Vas, SVD., St. Joseph’s Home Post Box 106 INDORE 452001 M.P. India mobile: 09893004626

 

From:
arul nathan
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:28 PM Subject: Re: EMANUEL / NCB

Dear Brother, We do oppose the NCB bible due to its misrepresented version in the name of Indianisation which not only affects its authenticity but will also have bad repercussions to the coming generation. Thanks & Regards,

Arul Nathan and Maria NEW DELHI [ATTENDED CATHOLIC SCHOOL OF EVANGELIZATION]

 

From:
celestedesouza
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:02 PM

Subject: new Catholic Community Bible

Dear Mr Prabhu,

I have just seen your article which was brought to my daughter’s home along with the New Catholic Community Bible. 

I am in a state of shock.

I am a cradle Catholic, back in the Church after years of searching and questioning. My daughter has left the church and is a ‘born again’ and like all of that ilk had much to say about the Church and where it is going with the very priests leading us. Why does any one have to go to look for similarities or comparisons to other religions and more than anything else put it into a Bible. For God’s sake the study of comparative religion or a commentary is one thing but this is an abomination.

My daughter was pleased that at least you, a catholic had questioned it. How do I deal with this? What argument can I put forward as to why the Church thought such a thing was needed? Help me!  How do I justify continuing to remain a Roman Catholic. My son in law is Catholic and insists that their son who is 9 will make his first Holy Communion. My daughter says she cannot trust the Catholics to teach him the correct things any longer.

Thank God the man who brought the Bible to the house [an evangelist] also brought your article. I don’t know where he got it but I’m happy at least I can ask someone about my misgivings. I’m sure there will be many people like me who have the same questions and I hope you can find us a succinct answer. Thank you and God Bless.

Celeste de Souza BANGALORE

 

In reference to the meeting held at Navsadhana Pastoral Centre, Pune on September 20, 2008 to discuss the New Community Bible (NCB) which a group of lay Catholics and a priest were protesting against Fr. Kurien Kunnumpuram, SJ, Professor at the Papal Seminary, Pune was selected by the Bishop to defend the NCB.

See my report on the Papal Seminary to understand the background and theological leanings of Fr Kurien and the other theologians of the Seminary, and also of the commentators of the NCB – Michael Prabhu

FROM JULIANA D’SOUZA
1. To Bishop Valerian D’Souza of Poona

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 4:29 PM

Subject: Thanks for the Seminar

Rev. Bishop,

With all due respect to your position and to your long and selfless service to the lay faithful, I would like to thank your Lordship for giving us this opportunity to express our fears and concerns regarding the NCB. I do appreciate your courage in conducting such a discussion and for inviting one of the scholars in Bible and also for asking St. Paul’s for taking the NCB off the shelves. May the Holy Spirit give you the grace and courage to support the truth and fight against the elements of darkness that have crept into our Roman Catholic Church as was foretold by our Mother Mary at Fatima (in the secrets of Fatima). May God Reward you for your boldness. I truly appreciate your effort.

I would also like to apologize in case you felt that we were a bit harsh or loud during the discussion. But your Lordship, being a discussion, these types of arguments are bound to happen; besides our sentiments are hurt too. We had to speak loudly since there were no microphones provided for us.

All these years in the history of the Catholic Church it used to be the lay faithful that would doubt the faith and the martyrs and the priests would give us an insight into the Word of God and reaffirm our faith. Yesterday it was so sad to see the scholar priests questioning the faith and the accuracy of the Word of God, asking for scientific, geographical and historical proofs, and the lay faithful defending their faith and the accuracy of the Word of God.

What was even more shocking was that we were called fundamentalists.

These scholars want scientific proof in the Bible, but accept the truths in other Indian religions. We have no problem with Indianization, but when Hinduism is propagated in the name of inculturation we cannot tolerate it. There is definitely no place for Hindu Scriptures in the Word of God.

 

 

 

One more thing, your Lordship. I would like Fr. Kurian to read out the verse in the Bible that states that the earth is the Centre of the universe and that the sun revolves around the earth. If with our limited knowledge we interpret what the Holy Spirit revealed, we will surely not understand the truth in it. I can only say that in front of the vast and infinite knowledge that God has we don’t even have a fraction of the knowledge that He has. For, if Fr. Kurian is referring to the Psalm of David, Psalm 19: 4-6. (God made a home for the sun; it comes out in the morning… etc), let me tell Fr.Kurian that nowhere it is mentioned that the sun moves around the Earth. It is only mentioned that the sun moves from one end of the sky and goes across the other like an athlete. I am a geography teacher and have read a lot about space (that has only filled me with awe for our Supreme Creator). Let me tell Fr. Kurian what God made known to David through the Holy Spirit, our great scientists have proved it now with the help of the Hubble telescope that the sun actually moves in the space covering an enormous orbit. Not only the sun, but all the other stars and galaxies too move in space.

The Theory of Evolution is falling apart today for lack of evidence. Darwin himself admitted that millions of missing links will have to be found in the fossils to prove this thesis. But till today not a single link is found.

The scientist argued that the Genesis could not be accurate as it says God placed a firmament in the sky and separated the waters below from the waters above. Until recently research has proved that Neptune, Pluto, even Mars have been found to have water, in frozen form. Along with the comets. Today it is proved that even the vast amount of water in the ocean is less than a fraction of the quantities of water that exist above the firmament. What the scientist took so many years to prove that the earth is a globe, Isaiah 40; 22 states It is He that sitteth upon the circle of the earth.

Critics challenged the Genesis that man is such a complex element how could he be created from dust. Today it is scientifically proved that every element that man is made up of is found in the soil (carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, etc).

The Bible is definitely not a scientific book; however, when it does make scientific statements, they are stunning in their accuracy.

If these scholars want any more proof please tell them to change their very approach of studying the Bible. Believe with a child like faith. Bible is neither a science nor a history nor an English literature book.

I do believe that the scholars with the vast knowledge that they have, have every right to doubt their faith and the Word of God, but they surely have no right to pass down these doubts to lay faithful who are not scholars. Tomorrow if our younger generations ask for a scientific proof to prove a virgin giving birth to a child, these scholars and all those who propagated such teachings will be responsible for loss of these souls.

We have only two problems with the NCB. which are definitely very, very grave, one, the incorporation of Hinduism in the name of Indianisation, and second the doubts against the faith that has been passed down to us.

Act before it is too late. God bless you & give you the wisdom to discern between what is right and what is wrong and the power to stand up for the truth.

I HAVE FULL FAITH IN YOU & YOUR POWER. With love & gratitude, and sincere wishes for a wonderful Birthday on the 3rd.

I remain your sincerely, Juliana D’Souza PUNE

2. From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:
MICHAEL PRABHU
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:57 PM

Subject: some questions & answers during the seminar

I: Have you got the consent [for the NCB and commentaries] from Rome, our Holy Father.

Fr. Kurien: We have the signature of two of the Bishops of Vasai, Mumbai.

I: But two Bishops don’t represent the Church.

Fr. Kurien: That is sufficient.

I: Do you believe that the Bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit?

Fr. Kurien: Yes.

I: Is the commentary too inspired by the Holy Spirit?

Fr. Kurien: Not necessary.

I: Can there be errors in the commentary.

Fr. Kurien: Yes.There can be.

Fr. Kurien: Do you believe that there are no mistakes in the Bible?

Many: Yes of course!

Fr. Kurien: Why?

I: Because it is inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Fr. Kurien: But those writers too were human beings. Moreover, the Gospels were written many years after the death of Jesus.

I: But by the power of the Holy Spirit. I believe that every dot and dash in the Bible is accurate.

Fr. Kurien: Many people are fundamentalists but do not want to accept it.

Fr.George:
One charismatic leader told me ‘Fr. You cannot eat pork. It’s in the Old Testament’. Then I told him that Jesus said that what goes in is not unclean…etc. So do you mean to say that the Holy Spirit revealed something wrong in the Old Testament.

Theresa Schneider: Why do we need Indianization?

Fr. : We live in India and are definitely influenced by rich culture and traditions of India. Was Jesus born in Asia or Europe? Then why are we adopting Western Culture? Why are we importing Christianity from the West? Christianity is an Asian religion. Not European. The commentary is an excellent work of the scholars to give us this Indian-ness. We are blamed for adopting western culture.

TSc: Then why don’t our priests don’t wear a lungi or dhoti?

 

 

Fr. : I would have loved to.

I: Then Father, you take the lead.

Theresa: The names of so many Hindu gods are mentioned in the Bible. Do you agree they are Hindu gods?

Fr. Kurien: Yes.

Theresa: then aren’t we breaking the First Commandment?

Fr. Kurien: (confused and tries to explain the 8th, 9th & 10th commandments.)

Sheena: But isn’t it against the 1st Commandment? Or is it that you doubt the 10 Commandments.

Fr. Kurien: (All the more confused and says something. Somebody in the crowd diverts the topic.)

Shayne: Many things cannot be taken literally, you say. Are we undermining the truths in the Bible?

Fr. Kurien: (Same answer as before). The Gospels were written many years after the death of Jesus. Do you think God has a physical being when you say God said?

Sheena: Do you believe miracles happened [as related in the Gospels]?

Fr. Kurien: The way in which it is presented may not be correct.

Bishop: Isn’t it true that 32,000 versions of Bible have been written?

Fr. Kurien: Yes, and many community Bibles too which are interpreted according to the culture of that country. eg. Chinese, etc

Fr. Kurien: The Vatican does not reject anything that is holy & true in other religions. Moreover how can we be so sure that God is not in other religions? Names may be different.

I: Is Ganpati one of the names?

Fr. Kurien: (Confused.)

Outside after the meeting I asked Fr. Kurian, “Isn’t it true that the Pope feels that the teachings of many of the Indian Priests is not compatible with the teachings of the Caholic faith?”

Fr. Kurien: Then is your teaching compatible? (And walks away.)

Our feelings about the theologians:

No regard for the Pope. Feel all religions are correct. No faith in the word of God. Juliana D’Souza PUNE

 

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
prabhu
Cc:
Fr Joseph Vas
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:22 AM

Dear Michael, It is not a coincidence that the violence against Christians and the NCB coincide.

Who can underestimate the importance of what you are doing and all alone. I am sorry I did not help more but will do so if you tell me that if there is anything I can do to assist you… Hope that the pro NCB lobby does not succeed they may fool men but not God and His Holy Spirit. Many thanks Derrick D’Costa BAHRAIN

 

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:
MICHAEL PRABHU
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:48 PM

Subject: Thanks a ton recd. your attachment

Dear Michael, God bless you for all your hard work. It must be definitely tough trying to fight against this so-called inculturation, moreover because these scholars think that they cannot be wrong. The Church may be wrong, the Pope may be wrong but these scholars who rely on their great brains can by no means go wrong. I was shocked to read about so many things especially of all that is happening in our seminaries. All I could say is,” Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing”. If only they knew how much damage they have caused to the simple child like faith of the lay people! We are fasting & Praying that God Himself may fight this battle & use us as trump cards. Do keep us in your prayer. We need the grace & anointing of the Holy Spirit. You have done a marvelous job in such a short time. It will surely help us in our argument. You need to take rest & leave the rest in God’s hands. It’s His battle after all. Jesus must be so proud of you & your family who supports you. Love, Juliana D’Souza PUNE

 

From:
maud ribeiro
To:
prabhu ; response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: RE: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Dear Mr. Michael Prabhu, Thank you for your long e-mail & all the info in it regarding the NCB. All of us in our family, my husband Cyril and 2 teenage children are horrified that such a Bible could be brought out by the Catholic church.

Our children, heard the announcement in church, & came back very vocal!  
We fully support you & the effort to have it removed. May Jesus bless you & your family. In Christ, Maud Ribeiro

 

From:
sini abraham
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Cc:
prabhu

Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:25 AM Subject: Response to the NCB Bible – from a believer in Christ

With regards to the New Community Bible (NCB) – I saw some of the letters to Examiner which are trying to project the NCB as a blessing to the Community.  I would like to make some points, as a born again Christian very much concerned of adulteration of the Word of God. 

  • First and foremost, we as followers of Christ, don’t have the obligation to stand for anything but His Word.  Jesus said that I AM THE WAY – Its as simple as that – HE is not one of the ways, but HE IS THE WAY.  Please don’t mislead our innocent children for any reasons you may have away from this truth – our duty is to lead them to the truth that we have known – Let them see and understand the rest of the world from the eyes of Jesus.
  • Let me quote from the letter of Prof. Robert Castellino that was published in the examiner “the mindset of people has radically altered. People, and even children, are asking inconvenient questions. The NCB will go a long way in assuaging their doubts and also give them a balanced perception of other religions.” – true, the mindset of people has changed, but that doesn’t mean that we must try changing God to suit our new mindset (!!!!!).  Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. (Hebrews 13:8) – So is His word.  You and I cannot change it.  

  • We don’t have to try to simplify the Word so as to make it understandable and familiar to laymen.  Its not our duty but that of the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to our hearts – And He knows how to do that very well.

Best regards, Sini Abraham DOHA, QATAR 

 

From:
maria laura
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 8:37 PM

Subject: Letter to the Editor

Orissa and the New Community Bible

I’ve been following news from India during the last weeks, mainly because of the horrible persecution Christians are facing in Orissa. Incredibly, I didn’t know anything about it until a friend from India sent me the unbearable testimony of Fr. Chellen’s ordeal. Most European media have simply ignored the events at Orissa. And that is a scandal that adds up to all the horror. What is very difficult for me to understand is how a democratic country can allow such horror without intervening by sending more police forces or even the army. Are Indian Christians not citizens entitled to the protection of their civil rights? Aren’t rapes, destruction of private property and beatings against the law?

The other news – less dramatic – that has me a bit puzzled is the matter of the New Community Bible. Frankly, I do not understand why the NCB has included in its commentaries quotations from Hinduism texts and made parallelisms with Hinduism and other religions, even if just “a few”. It would make sense if it were to explain important differences between Catholic doctrine and Hinduism. But it seems that the incriminated comments have as their main purpose to “encounter the truth in other religions” and to “be open to our ancient wisdom”, as expressed in two letters to the Editor published in your previous editions in defence of the NCB (August 23 and 30). As honourable as those scopes might be, I don’t believe the NCB is the right place to pursue them.

I’ve read some of the incriminated commentaries, in particular those which make parallels between texts of Hinduism and the Bible, and some are really very far-fetched in an attempt to make notions from Hinduism converge with Christianism. And they did make me feel uneasy.

The Gospel is not simply a religious text. We believe that it is the Word of God, it reveals who God is. Of course, we recognize all that is good in other religions. But we cannot ignore our faith in Jesus Christ. He is the way and the truth and the life. No one goes to the Father except through Him (cfr. John 14:6).

Anyone consulting a Catholic edition of the Bible would certainly be expecting useful comments that would help deepen one’s knowledge of the Christian Faith and Catholic doctrine, and understand its uniqueness. It is also an opportunity for the Church to give an explanation to those who ask for a reason for our hope in Christ (cfr. 1 Peter 3, 15), and we owe them a clear, direct and convinced response. Maria Laura Pio BALERNA, SWITZERLAND www.infovassula.ch [CATHOLIC APOLOGIST, INTERNET APOLOGETICS MINISTRY]

 

From:
wilfred_menezes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:45 PM

Subject: RE: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Prabhu, Thank you for the email.  We are with your feelings. 

We are part of the Mangalorean & Goan community in Jeddah.  We know your activities when you are here from Mike.

Is there any internet link of this NCB, so that we ourselves can judge the findings.  Please keep us posted further developments. God Bless You. Regards Wilfred Menezes JEDDAH, SAUDI ARABIA

 

From:
vap.christopher@gmail.com
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:14 PM

Subject: Discontinue the NCB

Dear Editor, 

I have read and understood the commentary in the NCB. I have also read through articles opposing the printing and distribution of the NCB written by the clergy & lay people as well as the articles in the newspapers released in Chennai / Mumbai / Delhi that speak about the issue.

As a lay person to me it is very clear that we are compromising the sacredness and the wholeness of the Holy Bible. The Holy Spirit has provided the writers of The Books with enough inspiration and truth accompanied by any kind of reference in the form of parables and the examples of the life of the greatest followers of the One True God from the Old and New Testament. There is no requirement to include pagan gods, idols, demigods, and other examples or references of people, their comments or their lives in the commentary of the Holy Bible. Anything that is included in the Bible that is not of the Holy Spirit is inviting the wrath of God upon the church. The church is already confused and fragmented and most Catholics who leave the Church do so because of such confusion caused by its leaders. In the name of inculturation we are making compromises to receive ‘enlightenment’ from quarters that is uncalled for. Answer me this ‘Do you think the contents and existing commentaries of the Bible are not enough to enlighten the reader that we have to take commentary from other religious books to draw cross references?’

When God said “Thou shalt have no other gods before me” don’t you think he was also referring to such inclusions / comments / cross references from other religions that are from pagan gods / religions?

 

 

Please encourage the discontinuation of the printing, sale and distribution of the NCB immediately and call for a recall all those Bibles that have been sold. Also call for a discontinuation of the web site for the same http://stpaulsncb.com/ .

Vimal Ajay CHENNAI

 

From:
flavia fernandes
To:
editor@examinerindia.com; mail@examinerindia.com

Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: Letter to Editor

+14th September 2008, Feast of Exaltation of the Holy Cross

Dear Sir, I would be grateful if you could publish my following letter in your esteemed weekly The Examiner.

+ It is very surprising that St.Paul’s has published The New Community Bible for the people of India. This should be withdrawn from the market before untold damage is done to the true faith. There are already enough Bibles to choose from. What we need is the most faithful translation and books/commentaries etc. that teach us our own faith not someone else’s faith. The hindus teach us more than enough their faith in our offices. You will be surprised to know that our Catholics know more about the hindu faith than our own and are carried away by it. Our faith is hardly being taught in schools – even a bare 15 minutes a day is not enough. What type of future generation could we expect after being formed by teachings from The NCB? You can be sure they would apostasize. Catholics in India hardly know their own faith. Instead of giving us a good grounding of in faith, we get a Bible diluted and adulterated with other faiths.

“Jesus Christ is the only Savior, because He is the Truth. His truth is contained in the Gospel. Beloved sons, be faithful and powerful proclaimers of the Gospel. See how the truth contained in the Gospel is obscured by rationalism and torn by the errors that are more and more widely spread about. Thus many are moving away from the true faith.” (c/f To The Priests Our Lady’s Beloved Sons – Chapter 596). St.Paul considered it a “Woe” to himself if he did not preach the Gospel. What about us?

The New Community Bible will not draw people to Christ. The commentaries given equating hindu mythological figures with historical figures of the Holy Bible is much more than a gross error. The non-Christians will not think it necessary to come to Christ and the Catholics will think it no problem to go to other gods. I have seen in some Catholic homes the picture of Sai Baba and at some Catholic desks at office the picture of the elephant-god. Now we could expect to see much more other gods in their homes. We cannot say Lord Jesus Christ is the same as other gods. Acts 4:11 tell us “And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved”

My humble, earnest and heartfelt appeal to all in authority to withdraw the NCB from the market and stop further printing..

Ave Maria!

Yours sincerely in Jesus & Mary, Flavia Fernandes Ram Nivas 3rd floor Dr.Ambedkar Road Parel, MUMBAI 400 012

 

From:
catholicfaithful@rediffmail.com
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:00 PM

Subject: Ban NCB Immediately

People who have written NCB are against St. Pauls Teachings. Read St. Pauls Letter to GALATIANS chapter 1 & verses 6-10. Introducing NCB in St. Pauls year is a great insult to the Great Apostle. God Will Punish The people Supporting The NCB. C.J. Raphel, President, FEDERATION OF CATHOLIC FAITHFUL, CHENNAI

 

From:
peterjrprabhu
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:13 PM

Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

Dear Michael Prabhu, I strongly register my protest to the NCB bible and the matter should be taken up at all the forums where we can register our protests. The purity of the WORD OF GOD CANNOT BE DILUTED IN THIS MANNER. I AM SUPRISED THAT A PUBLICATION LIKE THIS COULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED BY THE ARCHBISHOP OF BANGALORE.

Please let me know what more can be done at this end by me. Peter Prabhu

 

From:
helen fernandes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:11 PM

Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

Thanks for the mail. I appreciate your work. We must condemn such writings on the Word of God. No one has the authority to add anything to the Word of God. Let us be united in Jesus Christ so that we can give the true Jesus to all our brothers and sisters of other communities. Helen Fernandes BANGALORE

 

From:
roshnirahesh
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:18 AM

Subject: RE: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

Dear Prabhu Thank you for your concern and protecting the WORD OF GOD. As the Bible clearly states no one can either add or remove any word to the Holy Book. My plight is if all the churches in India can be united as we preach one body in Christ, then Christianity is JESUS. I pray to you heavenly Father make us one in your body that JESUS lives in us and we abide in HIM. Love & Pray Donny David  

 

From:
flavia fernandes
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:54 PM Subject: NCB etc.

Dear Brother in Christ, I have read with great interest your criticism of the NCB.  I am very happy that you are so staunch. Inculturation distresses me. I hope you have sent your letters to the Pope too. He should know what is really going on here in India.  Some Cardinals seem to be painting a rosy picture for him.

 

 

You will know my mind from what I’ve tried to write.  You are well versed in Scripture etc. Could you do me a favour by reading the following and making any corrections in red.  I’ve tried to simplify the evolution stuff for the common man.  Even so, my English too is not too good.  About a year back I wrote almost the same entitled ‘Evolution of Mankind’ but Fr. Anthony Charanghat would not print it in The Examiner. Flavia Fernandes MUMBAI 

 

From:
isoe@esatclear.ie

To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:25 PM

Subject: The NCB – Heretical / Schismatic?

Dear Michael Having read and discussed your email what came to mind was – Let us make three tabernacles, one for you, one for Hinduism and one for Islam.  But the scriptures are very clear ‘Listen to Him’.

We listen to Jesus.  I’m sure that the Transfiguration on Tabor was answering a deep question in the hearts of Peter, James and John about how Jesus relates to Moses and Elijah.   Is Jesus what He claimed to be – The Messiah?  We must present Jesus as that person that every Hindu or Muslim yearns for – the only fulfilment of both Hinduism and Islam. 

When I gave the Clergy Retreat in Karachi earlier this year I said to the Archbishop on hearing the evening siren and wailing during their evening prayer that they were grieving for Jesus, looking for Jesus, seeking Jesus but blind to His presence and deaf to His Word.  Far from turning towards Hinduism/Islam we must focus Hindus/Muslims on Jesus.

I fear that perhaps some seeds of Schism are being sown in India – that will firstly attempt to isolate – under the guise of inculturation/indianisation – and then try to separate India from the rest of the Catholic world.  India could very well be further down this road than we imagine. 

Heresy always attempts to divide and then alienate.  In case you misunderstand me – I do accept the need of inculturation – but understood as in ‘Jesus Christ the Bearer of the Water of Life’.  The ONLY bearer.

But what I am noticing in places in India is that the Catholicity or Universality of the Church is perceived to be a threat to inculturation and to counter this perceived threat an ‘indianisation’ is sometimes promoted.  In other places I perceive a veiled wish that Christianity would flow from Hinduism or Islam and from their ‘scriptures’ – rather than from God’s Chosen People –  The Jews.  ‘Salvation is from the Jews’. Jn 4:22.  

In a word I sense that some Theologians are forcing the case that Christianity in India comes from the loins of Hinduism/ Islam.  One can only say that this leap would be no exaggeration when it comes to the Revised New Community Bible or the RNCB being written in a few years time.

Pope Benedict as Cardinal and Head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith – CDF – explained that one of the errors following Vatican 2 was the attempt by some ‘Periti’ to engage in Aggiornamento or Renewal
without Ressourcement   i. e. attempting to Renew the Church whilst ignoring the Sources   i.e.  

a)  Sacred Scripture,  b) The Fathers of the Church   and c)  Church Tradition.  

This may be happening in India.

We have had in 1054 the Great Eastern Schism.  Is a second eastern schism looming on the horizon? 

I believe your work is to contribute to prevent such a catastrophe!!  Keep alerting our shepherds to the wolves

in their midst. Thank you for the papers you have written.  I need them as I travel to India shortly.   

With best wishes.  Keep up the good work – India needs your prophetic voice/insight more than ever!!

Joseph O'Callaghan, IRELAND DIRECTOR, IRISH SCHOOL OF EVANGELISATION [ISOE]

ISOE Website:  www.esatclear.ie/~isoe The ISOE is a member of the Catholic Biblical Federation.

At the service of the ‘New Evangelisation’

“Pray, that the Lord’s message may spread quickly”  2 Thess. 3:1

 

From:
siddarth albuquerque
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: NCB

Dear Sir, I haven’t read the New Community Bible, but from what I hear, I don’t think it is necessary to liken mythological events in Indian culture to get across the Good News. THE CROSS DOES NOT STAND FOR ANY PARTICULAR CULTURE. 

This may lead to a cascading effect implying that all religions are one which would mean that JESUS is not required for our salvation, and that would defeat our purpose. Regards Siddarth Albuquerque MANGALORE

 

From:
stella joyce
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: Re: NCB

Dear Br. Micheal, Praise the Holy & matchless name of Our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ.

May Jesus give you a double portion of His Holy Spirit for your ministry. Really appreciate your efforts to keep me informed about various issues. You n your dear family are in our prayers. Regards, Stella Joyce BANGALORE

 

From: Fr. Biju Peter
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:47 PM

Dear Sir, Greetings! Thank you very much for sending me your article on “The New Age Community Bible? – The new released New Community Bible” and your e-mail letter on Alert and Update: Call for Withdrawal of the New Community Bible. Sorry for the delay to respond to you.

I have not seen this above mentioned NCB to give a critical comment on it, but I came to learn the errors and problem in the NCB commentaries from your articles. I congratulate you for this unique effort that you have undertaken for the defense of the Catholic faith. I give you my whole moral and spiritual support towards this great cause. Thanking you, Yours in Christ, Fr. Biju Choothamparambil, SHIMLA-CHANDIGARH Diocese

 

 

From: bianca d’souza
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Please withdraw the New Community Bible

Dear Team, I too would like to lend my support for the withdrawal of the Bible as there are so many errors in the footnotes. Jesus is the only Lord and the WORD of GOD cannot be misinterpreted. And should never be. Thanks,

Bianca D’Souza MUMBAI

 

From:
rita_mendonca
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:02 PM
Please ban, withdraw the book NCB. Rita Mendonca

 

From:
sserrao@sancharnet.in
To:
prabhu michael
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:49 AM

Subject: Re: SOME NEWS REPORTS ON THE NCB

Michael, Thanks for sending me this information on the NCB. It is shocking to know that there are quotes and comparisons to the Hindu and other beliefs in the Bible. I fully support your cause to oppose such a Bible from a Christian Publication. May God give you all the help you need in this task Regards Sylvia Serrao MANGALORE

From:
Sylvia Serrao
To:
28 addresses
Cc:
prabhu michael

Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: Fw: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Please read the below article and support the cause Sylvia [ATTENDED CATHOLIC SCHOOL OF EVANGELIZATION]

 

From:
leila aranha
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:19 PM

Subject: New Community Bible- letter from A.F.Nazareth

The Editor,
A. F. Nazareth has no understanding of the Holy Spirit, who is the third person of the TRINITY and who has inspired the various authors, who have written the Word of God in the Sacred Scriptures which has been compiled into the HOLY BIBLE. By saying “it is the same spirit at work in other religions as well” he is blaspheming the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD.
A F Nazareth is unaware how to discern the spirits. There can be books written with inspiration from our own human spirit as well as books inspired by the evil spirit and the NCB is one such book. This is a warning to all Catholics in India to beware of the price that they have to pay, by believing that this book can bring them a better understanding of other religions- rather it will take them further away from the one and only true GOD and Saviour, JESUS CHRIST.
May the LIGHT of the HOLY SPIRIT take away the darkness in all those who are in the dark.
Leila Aranha UNITED KINGDOM

 

From:
anuradha rebello
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:16 PM

Subject: objection

Sir, I strongly object to the publishing of NCB by Pauline community which has been contaminated too much by unnecessary references to the books of other faith. I feel our Bible is sufficient enough to make us understand the reality of our Triune God. I, for example, being a convert did not need any such assistance. I request you to kindly look into this matter seriously. Thanking You, Yours in prayers Anuradha Rebello BANGALORE [CONVERTED FROM HINDUISM]

 

From:
joju cc
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:02 PM Subject: NCB

Sir, It is always good that we admit that there are goodness in other religion. We must honor people of other faith irrespective of their believes. NCB may be brought out due to this effort. Our friends and me personally honor your effort in this sense. But we see some dangers in this work.

Bible is the Book of Revelations given to man. It has the completion of the truth. The searchers of truth in the Bible should not be encouraged to other books giving an idea that they have the complete and clearer form of truth.

Bible scholars may go to Greek philosophy and other cultural languages. It is only because Bible is written in the language of so and so people.

Bible is not written under the influence of Indian Philosophy. So it cannot be justifiable to give an Indian philosophical reference to the Holy Bible. Always to make a comparative study is welcome. But, please, don’t make Bible biased on Indian Philosophy. It is misleading the faithful. Trusting God, with love and prayers, Joju,

TrustGod@YesusXt.org Trust God Prayerbank, PB No.10809, Mehrauli, NEW DELHI 110030

 

From:
reji vechoor
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Cc:
cmb1
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:44 PM

Subject: New Community Bible

God is good all the time!! Dear Scholars,

As I go thru the arguments and counter arguments about the new community Bible, I am really shocked and confused. When I was a little boy my humble old parish priest used to tell us Everything in Heaven and earth lives and moves in Jesus because He is God Today Christ showers grace thru Church because Church is the Body of Christ The fullness of the Grace you can see only in the Church so Church is the source of God’s Grace to all.

And Cross is the Way of Christian life because Jesus walked in this Way When I look at the explanations given about the new community Bible I think our Scholars putting water (sometimes with lot of dirt) in the Wine!!!

 

 

They are reducing the “Cross” which is the Way to simple symbol of Christian religion!!!

The immediate effect of the Community Bible may not be much visible. But on long run it can diminish or even take away the “Word of God” to “words of gods” so this is my humble request and prayer let the authorites take the bold step of removing the cancer before it effect more and destroy the whole life.

With prayers Reji Thomas
DUBAI
 Tel:
00971 50 3823 960

 

From: limjoe@vsnl.com
To: mail@examinerindia.com
CC: His Eminence Dr M A Chinnappa Archbishop <
archmsml@vsnl.com>, Rt Rev Lawrence Pius <archmsml@vsnl.com>

Subject: Indianised Bible Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:19:33 +0530

Respected Rev Fr Examiner 

The Indianised Bible will inspire other states like Orissa. Today we all know the high profile hypocrisy being scaled up with boldness to kill Christians in certain States/Regions with no feeling of guilt inspired and actively encouraged by political parties for different reasons, both directly and indirectly. Can we organise such killings?  If I may I suggest we manage the existing peace with the original Bible. Our motives to Indianise the Bible will be an added excuse to kill our brothers, sisters and their kids.  Waiting for excuses via hired killers. Yours truly in Our Lord P J Joseph CHENNAI

 

From:
fatima magdalene
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:16 AM Subject: Comments on NCB

Dear Brother in Christ, I have met you in Maria Niketan, Bangalore in December 2007 when you had come for a 2 days seminar on Catholic apologetics and gave the talks along with Fr. Vincent Barboza

I have been praying for you since then, as requested by you. 

I heard about NCB few weeks ago in our Parish but somehow I did not like that announcement by our Parish Priest Fr Joseph Susainathan (Our Lady of Fatima Church, Bangalore) and I did not venture to buy that Bible.

Now I recd this mail about the NCB. I join you in opposing the circulation and sale of NCB.

I am not an expert in Bible. I only do my daily readings.  I like the original Bible and don’t like any interpretation on that.

I pray for you and all your works in the Roman Catholic Church.

May GOD Bless you and your family and send his angels to surround you always. Your sister in Christ

Fatima Magdalene BANGALORE

 

From:
PRIEST. NAME WITHHELD
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:07 AM

Dear Micahel, For many years I was watching the backdoor entry of not-easily-perceptible but cancerous and deadly evil creeping into the Indian Church. […] The C.R.I [Conference of Religious, India] is now the forum for promoting all that is questionable – feminism – male-female experiences under the brand name called “psychosexual spirituality”, “New Age”, liberation and so on – anything except the Gospel.  When doing counselling I have come across religious who were sexually exploited at seminars. Now that the majority are on the other side – some are under treatment for depression – I cannot say anything. All these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. As a true charismatic I am very sensitive about these issues but I am helpless being a member of a Religious Congregation that is also affected by some lethargy and the influence of psychology and the New Age. They are curious about the new things, digging broken cisterns that can hold no water (Jer. 2:13). It is a hopeless situation. While the hierarchy sleeps the “enemy” comes in to sow weeds in the field.

Try to call a gathering of laity to pray and atone for the sins against the Word of God. SALESIAN
PRIEST

 

From:
odile fernandez
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:35 AM

I request a complete ban on the NCB.  This is blasphemy!!

Odile Fernandez SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA

 

From: limjoe@vsnl.com To: mail@examinerindia.com Sent:  Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:26:14 +0530
CC:  His Eminence Dr M A Chinnappa Archbishop
archmsml@vsnl.com

Respected Examiner and respected Members of the Team

What we immediately need among our Priests is self generated discipline inspired from the top. For them to inspire us. Is it possible now? … My concern is not about the mental process woken up now by the so-called Bible Scholars but their questioning the genuine believers in Jesus …

The experts in Indianising Bible are permitted to survive on images with popularity as in our Indian politics. I hope the experts are aware of HINDUISM and the origin of ISLAM. Rev Examiner, genuine understanding generates genuine faith, and genuine faith in turn generates genuine experience. Without genuine faith, experience can be easily counterfeited by
emotionalism. Without genuine understanding, what passes for faith can be counterfeit confidence of purely human origins (such as the power of positive thinking). So understanding is integral to faith, just as faith and understanding are both integral to experience. Perusing the news on Indianised Bible, I am thinking about several examples including by those
now endeavoring to rewrite the Bible, with abnormality in their brains as intelligent liars…

Can we have trust in God, without having trust first in ourselves?  Today what is essential is we should clear our self generated dilemma of doubts. How to resolve it? Are we in two minds?  Can we solve our doubts by Indianising the original history of Jesus Christ?  It can only be solved not by Indianising Bible but by Indianising ourselves as Indians first.

 

 

I have endorsed a copy of this submission to our His Eminence Archbishop of San Thome Archdiocese, Madras-Mylapore since my first submission on this emotional issue was to His Eminence.

Thanking you, I am, Yours truly joined by my Faith in myself as a Christian without any dilemma of doubt as an Indian first.

P J Joseph CHENNAI

 

From:
Fr. Conrad Saldanha
To:
Bp. Dabre
vasaidiocese@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:23 AM

Subject: NCB = New Controversial Book

From:
Fr. Conrad Saldanha
To:
vasaidiocese@gmail.com
Cc:
vasaidiocese@vsnl.net

Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: REMINDER

Dear Bp. Dabre, Since I have not received a reply as yet to the earlier email sent to your VSNL address, I am once again forwarding this email to your gmail address too. In Christ Fr. Conrad

Dear Bp. Dabre, Greetings in Christ Jesus our Lord!

The NCB has been an unfortunate inclusion in the Catholic Church in India and I hope the authorities in the Church sit up and take the few prophetic voices seriously and completely scrap it. I need not write to you the reasons unless you need it from me, but what Michael Prabhu and the likes of him have written should suffice.

In many ways we are seeking to learn from the world and even blindly, without discerning implement worldly principles in the Church. Like good corporate organizations, the Church too should make an immediate recall of all the NCBs sold. Thus it will restore faith and respectability in our Bishops.

You very well know my commitment to the Church. How in spite of persecutions and trials even from Church authorities I have been consistent and committed to the Catholic faith with all discernment.

In my recent conversation with a Paulist priest I was shocked to learn from him that the protest is only from a few laity and this is what the Bishops also think.  I seriously disapproved of his view on two counts:

i) I don’t think this is true, there are priests and I am one of them who strongly disapproves of the so called NCB. If I am silent it is only for the sake of the unity of the presbytery. But my faith and conscience will not withhold for long, more so in the face of injustice against the sheep by the shepherds who we are called to care for. Ezekiel 34

ii) Even though the laity on account of their lack of theological formation may not be able to put it across in categories that are theological, they are nevertheless well able to sniff out the errors that are being propagated in the name of authority.

If we recognise this we shall be truly empowering the laity.

I am concerned at the many evils facing the Church and this one is of a serious and urgent kind which flows from a rot of theological and Biblical scholarship which is rebellious and hostile to sound Catholic principles and doctrine.

Unfortunate that it has the tacit approval of the Bishops. I trust you will act urgently

Yours in Jesus & Mary, Fr. Conrad Saldanha

Fr Conrad Sacred Heart Church S.V. Road, Santa Cruz, MUMBAI, Maharashtra 400 054, India 91-22-2648 4959 ext 104.

 

From:
ivan vas
To:
Potta; Divine Retreat Centre;

christchair@yahoo.co.in; frwillie_menezes@sify.com; bishopap@sancharnet.in; Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net; response2communitybible@gmail.com; and 31 others

Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:34 AM Subject: Fw: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOURRESPONSE — OR SILENCE — CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Dear Beloved, Please protect the divinity of the Word of GOD Thanks Ivan [The 8-pages NCB doc. Attached]
				

From:
ivan vas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:31 AM

Subject: Re: MY MOST HEARTFELT GRATITUDE

Dear Mr. Micheal, Thanks and Wish you all the best in your task. May God shower his abandon blessings on you and church may realize the truth of Word of God Regards, Ivan Vaz SAUDI ARABIA

 

From:
Fr. Conrad Saldanha
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: Re: NCB criticism

Wow Michael, I sincerely appreciate that… it’s hard hitting and is needed… the prophetic anger… the zeal for the Father’s house has consumed u… [You wrote to Fr. Joe Eruppakkatt, SSP copy to Bishop Thomas Dabre]:

I throw you a challenge: Let us visit St Pauls bookstores together with a Bishop in attendance and as witness, and you justify the presence of such books in a place which your founder intended for promotion of the Gospel. St Pauls has become a money-making racket, Father. I have personally, along with prominent lay preachers, got St Pauls to remove objectionable titles from their shelves in three or four cities, even from their stalls at public Catholic functions.”

May the Lord bless u and preserve u from the wicked VHP, BD & RSS’s in the Church of God.

Fr Conrad Saldanha MUMBAI

 

From:
swamiyesudas@yahoo.com
To: Bp. Thomas Dabre
vasaidiocese@vsnl.net ; bishopanthony_in@netsewa.com ; menam@sify.com ; [and over one thousand others] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:33 PM

Subject: AN OPEN LETTER

A new Bible translation been brought out called the ‘New Community Bible.’ It has some very interesting commentary indeed!

An example: The readers are encouraged to worship the SUN, and to meditate upon the gayathri mantra, to get illumination. This in a Catholic Bible.

 

 

Letters written to the authorities brought out the SAME response that they themselves got from the government with regard to the Orissa situation – namely, the Run-Around.

Paul rebuked the Prince of the Church in Antioch. HERE THERE IS NO QUESTION OF REBUKES.

But the point is that one can speak, and speak out.

The point is also that the bishops have the obligation to listen.

I live as a Christian Sannyasi. My Theology and Spirituality are entirely Catholic.

My Life-style and my Way of Celebrating the Liturgy are very Indian, as the attached photographs will show.

Very probably the same bishops, who speak about respecting other religions, will be shocked!!!

The photograph named ’01 Dhyaan’ shows us in Dhyaan at the beginning of the Eucharist. My bare torso is in keeping with the Vedic Pujari being so.

The idea behind that is that the Attention and the Glory should belong to the LORD, and not to the celebrant.

You may be bare-chested at home. When somebody suddenly turns up, what do You do? More clothes, more respect, sort of. Remember, we are speaking about India. In the West, they would not worry about receiving You in their Swim-wear.

Photograph ’11 Ado 3,’ shows us in adoration. This is just after the Consecration.

There is much we can and should learn from other Religions. There is much that we Christians can-NOT accept from them.

In the NCB, that distinction has not been honoured.

The politicians invoke the Official secrets act, and keep duping the people. I fail to see what secrecy has to be observed in Theology. One bishop writes that he is not obliged to share with the people.

What are people supposed to do, ACCEPT what is written by anybody, and that includes me?

All too often the rod is lifted over an individual, and they woo a congregation. That is why Michael’s friends, Priest friends, want to remain anonymous.

In asking for action in Orissa, what we need is a Leader of the calibre of Gandhi; and People who would be ready to get hit on the head by the Police, (instead of running from them; that breed has dis-appeared!).

I lay my neck on the line, and await interesting (personal) developments!

Anyway, this mail is going out to nearly a Thousand people. Viva la Net!

I ask You, reader, to WRITE a few lines to Bishop Dabre, whose id, <vasaidiocese@vsnl.net> is given right in the beginning. The next two addresses belong to Bp. Antony of Bareilly, and Bp. Thomas of Guwahati, two bishops whom I admire and respect. Sincerely, Yesudas.

ATTACHMENT TO THE LETTER:

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ Jesus,

A Good Brother and Friend in Christ, Mr. Michael Prabhu of Chennai, who has a web ministry called www.ephesians-511.net sent out an Alert some time ago. It pertains to the new edition of the Bible, named NCB, brought out by the Society of St. Paul. I have taken some very small portions from his Alert. In his research, Mr. Prabhu found that the following names — of personages and books — have been mentioned in the commentary, and I find that significant. (The numbers in the brackets show the page number where the name or commentary occurs).

Adi Shankara (113), [“religious teachers such as”] Sri Ramakrishna (1681), …One can read from the the Upanishads (8, 89, 117, 1301, 1509, 1652), the Rig Veda (11, 876), Mahabharata (20, 59, 101, 755), Yoga Sutras (122), Manusmriti (260), Bhagavata Purana (273), Narada Bhakti Sutra (398, 456), the Bhagavad Gita (317, 462, 756, 1662, 1680, 1719, 1900), etc.

…Hindu mythological figures and deities are named e.g. Shiva (59) in Genesis, Krishna (317, 755) and Arjuna (317, 755)

There is also something that is much more significant:

Namely, The commentary on Psalm 5 (876, 877)* obliges us to read “the famous Gayatri-mantra at daybreak facing the rising Sun: Om bhur bhuvgajh svah […] May we meditate on the most excellent lustre of the sun-god, that he may illumine our intellect.” By way of this quote from the Rig Veda, Sun [capital letter ‘S’ as given by the commentators] worship is appreciated in a supposed Bible.

Bishop Dabre,

I am Yesudas, priest of Daltonganj, ordained in 1985. I was prepared by my late Bishop G.V.Saupin, sj, to live as a Sannyasi from before my Ordination. Yet the works of Ramakrishna, the Bhagavata Purana and the Narada Bhakti Sutra are just names for me. In view of that, and my experience as a Priest and particularly as a Sannyasi, besides my conscious awareness of some 40 years –

I would like to draw Your kind attention to the following points:

  • I am sure that the average Catholic is not familiar with the persons and works mentioned above, highlighted in grey.
  • I cannot believe that the Catholics of the present generation or of the coming decades are going to be interested in these.
  • I cannot believe that things similar to those shown above, given in the NCB, are needed and useful for the Spiritual life of the Faithful.

More importantly,

  • How are we supposed to accept that the sun is called GOD? And that it is going to illumine our intellect?

 

 

 

 

We know that the Bible contains references to Moloch and to Ashtoreth, just to name a few. Not everybody can invest in Dictionaries of the Bible and Biblical Encyclopedias. It would make sense to know what these words (names) refer to, as also the how and why.

But is it necessary for a Christian to know of the deities and the religious books of his land? Does my brother working in Dubai have to learn the Koran? And what is he supposed to do after that?

Respecting another’s religion should mean that I allow him to practice it without hindrance on my part, without my making snide remarks or smirking. And that includes my not spoiling his eardrums from loudspeakers from the top of my church.

From the respecting of another’s religion could follow what we can learn from them. We could and should emulate their Reverence, Regard and Awe towards their deities. Even while saluting his deity from the road, a Hindu takes off his slippers, and he not only joins his hands, his very shoulders hunch. Compare this to the average Christian, who may go around barefoot or with slippers at home, but wants to wear his shoes to church, and he practices his erect posture in front of his God, a thing that he may not dare to do in front of other mortals. The bishops and priests have failed to teach and inspire their faithful in these.

Respecting another’s religion cannot mean that I necessarily delve into their books, much less that I follow their teachings. Were that so, we could very well be offering our children in sacrifice through fire to Baal and other gods of Canaan. (Dt. 12:31, 18:11, 2 Kings 16:3, etc.)

The Commentary also seems to present such interesting nuggets:

For Krishna, a capital M for “Me”, has been used, indicating that he is a deity (1900). The personal pronoun “me” for Jesus, Son of God, does not rate the same dignity [e.g. Mathew 11:28]. (1677, 1678)

In Joshua, Krishna’s instruction to Arjuna is compared to God’s command to Joshua. (317)

In Maccabees, Krishna is referred to as “the incarnate god”, (755)

The commentary says, “similarly we read in the Bhagavadgita…” — to parallel Krishna’s instruction, “…Adore Me, make obeisance to Me, thus uniting yourself to Me…” — with Jesus’ words of eternal life in John 6: 60-71. (1900)

In view of all this, one wonders what Harold Vaz did by way of scrutinizing the whole Bible from a theological and Scriptural viewpoint, and Bishop Thomas Dabre in examining the references to Non-Christian Scriptures.

Those who would like to read Michael’s Alert may go to his web page given above, or write to him at <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net>
I request You all, my brothers and sisters, to write a few lines to Bishop Dabre as he is the Chairman of the CBCI commission for Doctrine. You may be sure that I will forward any response from him to You.

In Christ Jesus, Yesudas. Dt: 03.09.08

Swami Yesudas, Jyoti Ashram, Thanneerpalli, Karur Dt, 639107, TN. PRIEST

 

From:
angelamariemendonza@gmail.com
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:09 PM

Subject: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

The twelve apostles were poor, uneducated fishermen, but Jesus chose them to pass on his message of the Good News by the inspiration and power of the Holy Spirit. They were children in their thinking and faith higher than the mountains, not scholars and theologians, and if there were any more Wisdom to pass on, he and the Gospel writers and St Paul would have added scraps from other man-made religions. It is sad, and we Catholics are angry, that our own “educated” shepherds are having their names so boldly printed in the so-called Bible (NCB) which deserves to be kept on the footpaths with the names of Hindu idols the myths about them. The Holy Bible is desecrated by this so-called “Indianisation”.

It started in our church services and now has reached the Holy Bible itself.

Will our shepherds realize that the potholes that they have dug for their sheep have wolves waiting to devour them?

Angela Mendonza CHENNAI

 

From:
mae britto
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: NCB !!!!

Dear Michael, (Tried sending this yesterday but it just wouldn’t respond!!!)

Praise the Lord! My out-station commitments prevented me from responding to all your recent mails.  Please pardon the delay in ack. the same. While I thank God for your zeal for this very WORTHWHILE CAUSE – exposing the dangers of equating our Scriptures with mythology on the one hand and downplaying the uniqueness of Jesus Christ & the work of Salvation on the other – by equating the LIFE -GIVER with a destroyer (Shiva); I have one big question for the producers of the NCB – Where is the need for it????  It would have been a great help if those involved in the production of the NCB spent their time, energy  and other resources in organising Bible Study in our parishes  & catechise adults using the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) – provided they are fully with our ” APOSTLES CREED” – articles of our Faith & the teachings of our Church. 

Majority of our Catholics & many Christians (I guess) are yet to read / get acquainted with the approved versions of the Bible – which is meant to enable them to experience (KNOW) the one true living God in and through His Son Jesus Christ  (Jn. 14 :6 – “….no one comes to the Father but my me”)  it is apparent that the NCB will mislead them & in all probability cause them to accept the “gods” mentioned therein !!  Satan – The ‘angel of light’ is alive and active and is doing his bit to use something meant to be “holy” (NCB) to confuse people and ultimately turn them away from the  TRUTH.  (Please read 2 Cor. 11: 12 – 14)  Secondly,   it may have been wise to display texts concerning JESUS which are recorded in the Rig Veda & the Koran which clearly state that there is Salvation in Him alone. This would have been more apt if the purpose of the NCB was to help people of other religions (as was stated to me!)

 

 

Michael, I have expressed my views and am wondering just what will happen in time to come if each one brings out a version of the Bible in order to please people  – who are right now ready to slit our throats for being followers of Jesus .  Being the ‘Year of St. Paul’ I can’t help but end with his words:  ” …we refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word, but by the
open statement of truth we would commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God….. the god of this world has blinded the minds of unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the likeness of God…” (2 Cor.4: 1-6)

With warm wishes & believing that God is pleased with those who stand up for Him & His Holy Word!

Mae Britto BANGALORE [Retreat Preacher, Bible Teacher, National Catholic Charismatic Renewal Services]

 

From:
tamara martin
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: new community bible

DEAR MIKE, ME AND MY FAMILY WILL CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR YOUR MINISTRY BOLDLY PROCLAIMING THE TRUTH AND STANDING FIRM ON YOUR PRINCIPLES. NO ONE SHOULD DILUTE THE TRUTH AND TRY TO FORCE THEIR UNDERSTANDING ON OTHERS. THE BIBLE SHOULD BE AS CLOSE TO THE ORIGINAL AS POSSIBLE. I DO KNOW AND BELIEVE YOU WOULD HAVE MADE A TH0ROUGH STUDY AND DISCERNED BEFORE EMBARKING ON THIS MISSION.

I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO PROTECT MY CHILDREN AND THE FUTURE GENERATION FROM SUCH DILUTED TEACHINGS. I WOULD NEVER WANT TO OWN SUCH A BIBLE AS THE NCB. THIS YEAR AS THE CHURCH HAS DECLARED THE YEAR OF ST PAUL AND THE WORD OF GOD, IT IS SHOCKING, AND THIS BIBLE IS JUST A DIVERSION TO ALL BELIEVERS. PAUL PREACHED TO THE GENTILES AND HERE THE NCB WANTS US TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE. IT IS VERY SAD. THE PEOPLE IN HIGH POSITIONS ARE MISLED, MISDIRECTED AND LACK THE VISION. MOST OF ALL, THEY HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED JESUS. FROM NOW, OUR WHOLE TEAM WILL START CHAIN FASTING AND PRAYER FOR THIS INTENTION. VICTORY BELONGS TO THE LORD. MAY THE PRESENCE OF JESUS AND DIVINE WISDOM GUIDE YOU IN YOUR EFFORTS TO FIGHT FOR THE TRUTH. REGARDS, TAMARA AND LEON MARTIN, HYDERABAD 

[Tamara Martin, Regional Chairperson, National Catholic Charismatic Renewal Services]

 

From:
maurice d’almeida
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:33 PM

Dear Michael Received all your emails and I am much distressed and concerned with the distortion of truth by compromising true faith by Christians in the Eastern Church in recent years by accepting false ways which are contrary to the truth and as recently publishing NCB.  Lot of evil has crept in the Christian community because of the material, multicultural, multireligious, influences that prevail in our society where we live.

Word of God says “My children perish for lack of knowledge” Hosea 4:6. Very true, moreover people only look for the present and not the eternal.    

I am very much saddened by the events in Orissa and I have written a letter to Fr Norbert Nayak who was with us in our Group. I pray for you especially for opening our minds to the true faith and all my brothers & sisters who suffering, may God bless all those who persecuted for their faith, I am always with you for you are my brother and may God bless you, strengthen you, and give you success for everything you fight for in His name. 

Thanks & Regards Maurice D’ Almeida DUBAI [ATTENDED CATHOLIC BIBLE COLLEGE]

 

From:
gilda pereira
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:36 PM

Subject: New Community Bible

Sir, This is with regard to the New Community Bible which is obviously a New Age Bible.  It has the word Om on the cover and in the commentaries parallels are drawn with Hindu deities and Hindu religious texts and myths.  Who are we advocating – Christ or Hinduism?  The Hindus believe that “All Gods are one” and we have been taught that “there is only One God”.  This is bound to lead many Catholics astray.  Many will be attracted to reading Hindu literature and being drawn to Hinduism.  I would therefore urge you to please withdraw this Bible before it does any harm.
Yours sincerely, Gilda Pereira MUMBAI

 

From:
rohan_parish
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:59 PM

Subject: TO the EXAMINER. WHATS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS????

Dear Mr. Prubhu. I am sorry but I don’t mince words, and this is the same letter I had written to you earlier and forwarding the same to the Editor of EXAMINER (I suggest the editor do the same and EXAMINE himself). I am sorry if you are a priest or a lay person would not make a difference to my feeling stated below. Mr. Editor if you are a lay person then I suggest you either resign or do justice to your editorial (EXAMINER). If you’re a priest ???? GOD HELP YOUR SOUL.

How can you look at yourself in the mirror and I hope and pray you look at the damage this can do to our Catholic Faith which is constantly under attack (ORISSA/VHP etc. ) and you too trying to be another spoke in this wheel of destruction?

Dr. Rohan Parish (Florida) USA, Panjim- GOA

 

From:
alwyn fernandes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:49 PM

Subject: Re: FOLLOW_UP OF THIS MORNING’S REQUEST: THE EXAMINER: VERY IMPORTANT AND URGENT

Dear Michael,

After reading the many excerpts sent by you till date from various sources, I am coming to the conclusion that this is leading to a big controversy which will be misused by the secular media and will not be good for Christianity in general and Roman Catholicism in particular. My views are as below:

 

 

a) Only after our Catholic Church Magisterium approves of a particular version of the Bible, is it allowed to go to the lay faithful. That is the Magisterium’s responsibility, an awesome one given to them by God so all lay faithful must abide by it.

b) If the Magisterium allows any version, then they are responsible before God for any error if at all that goes into the minds of the faithful from reading that version. God will not hold his faithful responsible for what the Magisterium has allowed. The lay faithful are only reading what the Magisterium has allowed.

c) If any individual cannot digest what the Magisterium has allowed, then it is upto that person to not use that version of the Bible and use the one about which there are no such controversies, say the New American Bible (which is also approved by the Magisterium), which is also accepted as a good study Bible in the Catholic seminaries.

Instead of going through so much of debate on the issue, which will create an impression in the secular press that Catholics are pretty dis-united about their basic scripture, my suggestion to you is to leave it as it is and advise people who don’t agree with the concepts in the New Community Bible to stick to their own favourite version about which there is no controversy.

However my personal stand on the community bible is that it does have some controversy about it, so I will not refer to it myself but use the NAB version only, which I have been using for many years not only for personal bible study but also for teaching purposes in our prayer group. Regards,

Alwyn Fernandes, Infant Jesus Church Prayer Group Leader VASAI [EAST]

From:
alwyn fernandes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: Re: NCB

Dear Michael, As you have pointed out: if the Magisterium of the church has not approved the version before it was got into the market for the lay people to read then that itself is wrong. So instead of seeking emails and letters from people in support, can you not directly write a letter to the Papal Office and challenge why without the Magisterium’s approval, a new Bible version is brought out by any Christian Organization? A Bible version I thought should always have the endorsement of the Papal Office. It is for the Pope with his bishops to decide as a team what is right and what is wrong for the lay faithful to read. Scripture should not be interpreted by the lay people. That authority is in the Magisterium. […]

What I have under my control is that I will not use any Bible version in my prayer group about which there is controversy and will lead to time-wasting debates. NAB is long used for study and teaching purposes and I will continue with that in my Prayer Group. However since now you inform me that NCB has no authority of the Magisterium behind it, I will also caution all my prayer group members not to use the same for their personal reading.

Michael, please note that I understand the spirit in which you taking up this issue. But frankly speaking I don’t agree with the method used to tackle the issue (use of email media). Hope you will take what I have written in the right spirit and re-think your strategy to handle the situation. Regards, Alwyn.

From:
alwyn fernandes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Re: NCB

Dear Michael, I have already started communicating to my community members in my local church and will do the same at my prayer group this Sunday to avoid reading the NCB. I believe there is something very wrong in the version.

You can carry on the way you are doing and I hope you find the success. However I still believe that there is nothing wrong in directly writing to the Pope and requesting the Pope to ask the Bishops in India to take the thing seriously and investigate it and ban the Bible altogether if found wrong in interpretation. That may work better. you never know. Especially if we pray and do it with confidence in God. Sometimes the very thing we believe has the least chance of working out, does work out by Divine Providence. I have seen many things in my personal life happening this way, hence I can confidently say that it does happen.

Thanks for your patience and detailed explanation of your viewpoint. I acknowledge that we think differently on the same topic, but we will still remain brothers in Christ Jesus. I promise I will do my best to tell as many people as possible to avoid the controversies that will be created in their own minds by reading such a bible version which is not approved by the Magisterium. Regards, Alwyn 

From:
alwyn fernandes

To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:51 AM Subject: Re: GOD BLESS YOU

Dear Michael, I will definitely keep you and your ministry in my personal prayers daily and tell my prayer group intercession team to also do the same. God bless you in your effort. It is difficult to find such dedicated people like you today working with zeal in the Lord’s vineyard. I am sure your energy comes from the Holy Spirit. You are very systematic and methodical in your work and in a ministry like yours it is needed. I hope some positive result comes out at the Bishop’s meeting. If not then, we will pray that your endeavour to find help at the Vatican will surely find success. Regards, Alwyn

 

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:46 PM

Subject: NCB Bible and the tragic events of Orissa

Dear Editor I am an ex-parishioner of St. Michaels – Mahim, and I presently reside in Bahrain and read the Examiner often in its online version. It was nice to read the letters of A F Nazareth, Dr Trevor Colaso and Professor Castelino on the NCB.

I have also purchased the NCB and diligently perused its contents.

Therefore speaking for myself, I felt it rather unfortunate that the deep and very painful divisions between those who consider the NCB commentaries a well-intentioned and noble work and the voiceless majority of Catholics who consider the extreme commentary an offence and sin against the Holy Spirit have not been given fair and balanced coverage particularly by esteemed Catholic publications such as the Examiner. I am sure that I, my friends and my family members are not alone in their view that the Church has grievously and perhaps irreparably offended the Holy Spirit, given the various news articles critical of the work.

 

 

Even more importantly, I now strongly suspect, albeit with greatest possible pain, that the events in Orissa, reflect the chastisement of God on the Indian Church. I am sure that many like me feel the horrible and shameful attacks on our defenceless religious and faithful in Orissa to be the direct spiritual consequence of betrayal of the Lord evidenced by the NCB. However, even this evil has been permitted by God so that good may result.

While our faith rests on the life giving redeeming sacrifice of Our Lord and the NCB “Bible” may not hurt the faith of ordinary Catholics, it remains important to realise that the work represents an ongoing effort of some who mistake acculturation with Brahminisation and Hinduisation of the Church. While none of us have any ill feeling against the tenets of other religions, some of us find the forced comparisons tragic, unfortunate and even to put it strongly, having an element of deceit.

The words of Isaiah 40.25 where our Holy God complains to His people “And to whom have ye likened me, or made me equal, saith the Holy One?” seem pertinent to mention at this stage.

Yes, the NCB likens God and Holy Scripture to mythological characters and other religious texts and contrary to what is written in the very often unread preface provides ample justification for those who feel our Holy Scriptures and our Holy Lord are compared to other religious texts and deities treating them as similar. Some continue to ask why this presents a problem since the early Church Fathers also freely quoted from Cicero, Pythagoras, Seneca, Marcus Aurelius, Epicurus and Virgil etc. The reason is quite clear the Fathers quoted the philosophers in a totally Catholic context. In the NCB however there is no dividing line between occult worship (refer the Gayatri Mantra in the Psalm 5 commentary) and philosophy, nor are the texts quoted in a Catholic context. Besides the Fathers quoted more often from Scripture and from other Catholic authors, making profane authors a minor part of their work. I feel, despite what others have said and written that there is poor Catholic context in the NCB and this work represents a continuing offence to the Holy Spirit. I somehow sense God’s rightful and just anger on this issue and beg for our ecclesiastical authorities to review the work afresh.

God bless Derrick D’Costa BAHRAIN

 

From:
menezes_dennis
To: oswald
CC: misc Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:30:58 –0700 Subject: Fw: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Dear Oswald, please forward it to Rakno Editor to publish in his weekly love Dennis
From:
menezes_dennis
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net; response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
Jerrysvd@hotmail.com, abusvd@hotmail.com
Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 9:20 PM

Dear Michael Prabhu,

We the expatriate community in Saudi Arabia, are shocked to know that St. Pauls have published a disputed Bible called ‘New Community Bible’, which praises Hinduism and which have commentaries relating to the text of mythology.

We are surprised that no authorities from the Indian Bible Society or the Catholic Church hierarchy took notice about this and allowed to publish this NCB, which will bring doubts and confusion among millions of believers.

The Bible is the Word of God and through His Word God speaks to us and we speak to God through our prayers. The Word of God cannot be misinterpreted, distorted or manipulated by adding or subtracting anything.

REV 22:18b-19 says that “If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of this book, God shall take away his part out of the Book of life, and out of the Holy City, and from the things which are written in this Book.”

Now a days we hear many things about Jesus Christ and His Word. So many obstacles placed before us in the past by the enemies of Christ, through films like Da Vinci code,

The Tomb of Jesus, The hidden life of Christ etc, all came and gone. All these are away from the truth. In the same way if this work of the NCB is NOT from God, then it will perish..

Why all these things are happening today?

(Read) Colossians 2:8 “Beware! No one deceives you with philosophy or any hollow discourse; there are merely human doctrines not inspired by Christ, but by the wisdom of the world.”

Therefore, we should be careful not to fall in the trap of “Tradition of men” after their philosophy that they wanted to convince us that all the religions are same, and hence combining Christianity with Hinduism is justified in the name of “Indianisation”. Now a days there are many people who are not on the side of Christ, but in the side of men and their religion.
They are pleasing not God, but men and their Religion.

Today mankind is suffering from the wave of “Tradition” and Culture” that is permeating everything and trying to take out our “Faith” from the Word of God.

The NCB is the direct opposition to the teaching of Christ and the doctrine of the Church, if it is combined with the text of Mythology and praising Hinduism.

Remember our faith, our children and grand children future is in great danger.

We all should give full support to Micheal Prabhu and his associates in thier effort to revealing the truth  by publishing this distorted NCB and it should be withdrawn by the St. Paul Publication at once.

Let us join together in a signature campaign, in order to stop the publication and circulation of NCB, and to open the eyes of the authorities to know the truth and the truth will set them free. (John 8:32)

May God Bless Micheal Prabhu and his family, for his wonderful work for Christian Community and we wish him success in his endeavors and pray to the Mighty God to Bless him and his family.

Dennis Menezes, Holy Cross Prayer Group, SAUDI ARABIA

 

 

 

From:
dshalvin
To: misc
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net ; response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: FW: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE– OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Dear All Loved Ones: Please write your comments to: Micheal Prabhu- (michaelprabhu@vsnl.net)

 

From:
vinita mascarenhas
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: NCB

I thank you for this option made available to voice our concerns on the New Community Bible.  With references to pagan gods and means of worship, the NCB cannot be called a Catholic bible and I strongly voice my concerns and demand immediate withdrawal of the NCB from sales and a ban on further prints.  This is the most disrespectful & shameful act the learned theologians could imagine to confuse and lead astray the people from the Catholic faith. Vinita

From:
vinita mascarenhas

To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: Re: NCB

Dear Michael Its a great job u r doing and I will pray for its success. From my side I have circulated to most of my friends with a request to email you hope and pray they do it. With prayers Vinita
Mascarenhas DUBAI

 

From:
regina_d’costa
To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Protesting – the NCB

Quote: They prove useful in helping us learn more about the truth in other religions, which Vatican II has explicitly stated that “the Catholic Church rejects nothing which is true in other religions – which although differing in ways, reflect a ray of that truth which enlightens all men”. In other words, although the Catholic Church claims to have the fullness of truth, there is a need for the Church to encounter the truth in other religions as well, because God speaks to people in different ways, and it is the same Spirit at work in other religions as well. A F Nazareth, Mahim in the Examiner Unquote
If Mr. A. F. Nazareth wishes to learn the truth of other religions, he is welcome to do it but he can do it on his own.  The Bible is timeless and is inspired scriptures.  Please let us keep it that way for our future generations, we owe it to them and will be held accountable. In the law of nature mutations and adaptations are the primary reason for new species of flora and fauna. We do not need mutations and adaptations in our inspired ‘Word’ which in course of time may end up nowhere near the ‘Word of God’.
Vatican II was very explicit in saying that other religions reflect ‘a ray of truth’. When we have the fullness of truth, like we have the fullness of Light, similar to having the sun in all it’s brightness and glory, due we need to clutch a ray!? And it is the same Spirit at work in other religions!? How preposterous is this! Regina D’Costa U.A.E.

 

From:
nelly rosario

To:
mail@examinerindia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: NCB

Thank you for the information about the New Community Bible. A Bible cannot have any additions or deletions to it, moreover any such a type of Indian version, is totally unacceptable. God bless! Nelly Rosario QATAR

 

From:
sini abraham
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:58 AM

Subject: RE: FOLLOW_UP OF THIS MORNING’S REQUEST: THE EXAMINER: VERY IMPORTANT AND URGENT

Mike, Its shocking to see what these Church leaders (!!!!????) are talking…
“the Catholic Church rejects nothing which is true in other religions – which although differing in ways, reflect a ray of that truth which enlightens all men“.

In other words, although the Catholic Church claims to have the fullness of truth, there is a need for the Church to encounter the truth in other religions as well, because God speaks to people in different ways, and it is the same Spirit at work in other religions as well.

Its obvious what spirit is leading them.. Will send response asap. Best regards, Sini Abraham DOHA, QATAR

 

From:
Fr. Joseph Aymanathil
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: NCB

Dear Michael, Keep up the fight for the dignity of the Word of God.

This is what I have written to the Examiner:

Dear Sir,

The NCB attempts to bring in Hindu religious literature into the Bible suppose that those from tribal backgrounds (and there are millions in India) have to turn to Hindu culture as the mother culture. This NCB cannot have any relevance for our tribal Catholics. But I have also other objections to the NCB.

I cannot accept the way we dilute our Christian Scriptures by creating parallels with scriptures of other religions which they themselves do not do and even will not understand why we do. They take it as our weakness and will only persecute us more, as it is happening now. Instead of this kind of hypocritical approach like chameleons, why not present true Christianity to them by word and example as Mother Teresa did? She was more respected than any of those deceiving themselves and others with Indianisation.

Our Word of God is anointed and carries power if one believes and does not need any parallel in other scriptures. I also do not understand why we should introduce Hindu cultural elements always through the backdoor. In India we have had Christian Swamijis and saffron-clad Sisters doing the round trying to have the best of both the worlds. They promoted the saffron and the lotus that finally came to power and whipped us.

 

 

Since a good part of our clergy and religious are running institutions for their own living, they do not perceive what is the message of the Gospel. They draw their spirituality not from the Gospel but from other sources opposed to the Gospel. Whatever the editor of the NCB has written by way of clarification in the introduction could be a ruse or excuse and does not justify lowering our Bible to that low level. Arguments may not work with them! We need to have recourse to prayer and fasting. Otherwise, this kind cannot be cast out! 

Dr. Jose Aymanathil, S.D.B

I hope some sense will prevail at the end.

Dr. Fr. Joseph Aymanathil, SDB., KOLKATA
[DOCTOR IN CANON LAW; EDITOR, STREAMS OF LIVING WATER]

 

From:
trustgod@yesusxt.org
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:31 AM Subject: THE EXAMINER: VERY IMPORTANT AND URGENT

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:16 AM Subject: FOLLOW_UP OF THIS MORNING’S REQUEST: THE EXAMINER: VERY IMPORTANT AND URGENT

Dear in Jesus, We have received your mail. We are keeping the message before Jesus present in the Most Blessed Sacrament. Trust God, and see the glory of God… Trusting God,

Trust God Prayerbank, Trust God Ministries, NEW DELHI

 

From:
Fr. Joseph Aymanathil
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 9:01 PM Subject: NCB and Indianazation

Dear Michael, This is my opinion about NCB and Indianization.

In the name of Indianization using elements from the Hindu practices will be taking for granted that all tribal Christians (they are now millions if we take into account the North East and Chhota Nagpur) are to be fed with the Hindu culture which they hate because they were persecuted by Hindus. Is the NCB going to take tribals as coming from the Hindu culture? The second point is that uniqueness of our Revelation has been diluted by the NCB commentators. The third point is the way some have been exalting the saffron culture and getting beaten at their hands because cowards will always pay for their cowardice and compromise. Finally, I think that the hierarchy will only seek the path of peace for themselves. So what will work is only prayer and fasting. This kind can be cast out only by prayer and fasting. With best wishes,

Dr. Fr. Joseph Aymanathil, SDB., Kolkata
[EDITOR, STREAMS OF LIVING WATER MAGAZINE]

 

From:
aidan byrne To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Response to NCB [mp: emphases are Aidan’s]

Dear Michael, I have read your email concerning the NCB with profound concern and trepidation at the immensity of the sacrileges contained within and the implications for our faith. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church we are supposed to defend and protect our faith:

#2088 The First Commandment
requires us to
nourish and protect our faith with prudence and vigilance, and to reject everything that is opposed to it. There are various ways of sinning against faith:

Voluntary Doubt about the faith disregards or refuses to hold as true what God has revealed and the church proposes for belief. Involuntary doubt refers to hesitation in believing, difficulty in overcoming objections connected with the faith, or also anxiety aroused by its obscurity. If deliberately cultivated. doubt can lead to spiritual blindness.

#2089
Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the wilful assent to it. Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him”.

What we are dealing with in this new bible is a refusal to “hold as true what God has revealed and the church proposes for belief”. It is “spiritual blindness” and it is a “neglect of revealed truth” and a “wilful assent” to this neglect. Through such wilful neglect the authors of this bible are breaking the First Commandment and #2072 in the Catechism states clearly that “the Ten Commandments reveal in their primordial content, grave obligations. They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them“. St. James states clearly “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one aspect, is guilty of breaking it all” (James 2:10).

I support Michael and his team in calling for this bible to be withdrawn without hesitation. We must protect and nourish our faith and “Be for God an active and proved minister, a blameless worker correctly handling the word of truth” (2 Tim 2:15).

Yours sincerely, Aidan Byrne, IRELAND

Aidan Byrne is a former New Ager who “was engaged in Neuro Linguistic Programming, Hypnosis, Time Line Therapy, Healing Touch, Angel Cards and a whole range of other activities also. I was delivered from all these activities and I renounced them last year. My wife and I have been engaged in prayer with a local Charismatic prayer group since then and we were Baptised in the Holy Spirit earlier this year. We have given our lives to the Lord and I have been speaking at various events against the New Age over the past few months. I delivered a personal testimony against the New Age at the weekend (just past) at the National Marian Shrine at Knock in the West of Ireland. I was at an International Conference in Italy in July for priests and lay people engaged in ministries of exorcism and deliverance and this was most interesting. I attended as secretary to the newly formed Irish Association of Exorcism and Deliverance.”

 

 

From:
NAME WITHHELD ON REQUEST
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com; michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: NCB

Hi…. I have not bought this New Community Bible.  When I read the brochure advertising it, I was a bit wary about it.  After reading the 8 page commentary that I received from you earlier I was convinced that this is not a bible that I would want to use.  I praise God that I did not buy it.  
However, my concern today is not about mature Catholics reading the NCB.  But I am concerned about the people of other faiths who will use it and will get a distorted image.  I am glad that you are taking up this cause.
After the Orissa ordeal it convicts me still further to cry out loudly that Jesus is the only way, the only truth and the only life…. If the comment is being published, you could leave it as anonymous Kindly send me regular updates on my email ID.
Stay blessed and keep up the good work…. LAY PERSON,
MUMBAI

 

From:
vasco rebelo
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:36 PM

Subject: Your e-mail and article

Dear Michael Sorry for replying only today… I have gone through your article on the NCB, and I fail to understand how Bishops can endorse such commentaries! We are being attacked from within and not only by RSS, VHP etc… My love to Angela and a big hug to you. Vasco Rebelo GOA

 

From:
leo_lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Dear Michael Prabhu. GREETINGS IN JESUS’ NAME.

I have never heard of NCB. A Bible is the Word of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit. It is for whole of humanity and for living a life on earth and for eternal life thereafter. Bibles are galore in the world […] We don’t need another Bible. […] CBCI and glorified Bishops must come down to earth and listen to our conscience.

God bless you as you work for one Catholic Church in one true spirit of Jesus. With deep love, Leo Lobo NIGERIA

 

From:
bose binoy
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:45 PM Subject: NCB

Dear Michael, I was very distressed to read about the New Community Bible that was published recently.  It is extremely dangerous to tamper with the Word of God. I strongly urge the publishers of this Bible to stop all printing of it.

Binoy Kumar Bose BANGALORE [PARENT CONVERTED FROM HINDUISM]

 

From: geraldine bose
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: Crusade against New Community Bible

Dear Michael Prabhu, Thank you for the wonderful work you are doing to keep the Catholic faith intact. I am aware that there are many organizations and movements within the church that seem to be doing the right thing but they are actually watering down the faith passed down from the apostles to our Church.

For the sake of our children and for all true seekers of the Truth, I urge the publishers of the New Community Bible to stop all publication of this book. There is no “parallel” to our faith and it would be a great mistake to draw one. The Bible is the Word of God and we cannot tamper with that and interpret God’s Word in our own way.

God bless this crusade you have taken up. I pray that God gives you health and strength to keep going in spite of everything. Geraldine Bose BANGALORE

 

From:
royston fernandes
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
prabhu

Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: condemn NCB

We the believers of Jesus Christ will not accept in any form any thing that hurts the integrity of our religion and hence I strongly protest the release of NCB or any such type of fabricated Bible. 

As our community is very strong, I have a strong feeling that with the support from our other team members and our Bishops such type of documents will not be encouraged and published. I once again strongly protest against the release of any such bible. Best Regards Royston
Fernandes SAUDI ARABIA

 

From:
jaignatius
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: FW: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR…

Dear Prabhu, I appreciate the good work you are doing to expose the flaws in the St Pauls’ New Community Version of the Bible. It is sad that we lost touch. I know the pains you are under going. I thank God for keeping me away from the structured charismatic activity in any one location for long time. I do what I am called to do and than move on.

I can only assure you of my prayer. I am in Doha trying to contribute to his kingdom in whatever some measure he wants me to do. Keep me in your prayer. I shall remember you. With prayerful wishes, God bless your efforts.

J. Aloysius Ignatius DOHA [PART-TIME PREACHER AND EVANGELIST]

 

From:
dave_raylon
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 6:28 PM

Subject: RE: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

 

Dear Michael Blessing to you in Jesus love and may the Lord protect you Ps95
Thanks for letting the Community know the truth. I did not respond all these days as I keep traveling. I have read the report and I have passed this to my group and we all will reply to you and support you
Blessing to you in Jesus love Dave Raylon
TORONTO, CANADA

 

From:
Suresh D’Souza
To:
Father Augustine Valloran
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:38 PM

Subject: protest against St.Paul’s New community Bible

Rev. Fr. Augustine Vallooran,

Father, I am Juliana D’souza from Pune. Many of my friends and I were quite upset with the New Community Bible, the product of St. Paul Publications. This Bible is said to be meant for India & has many disguised pictures of Jesus, Mary & Joseph. The Mother Mary has been shown in a sari & St. Joseph in a Dhoti, without a kurta with a basket on His head (The flight into Egypt). Along with the picture of Moses on Mt. Sinai, we have the pictures of mosque, temple…etc. This is totally a Hindu Bible & I’m sure meant to please the Hindus. It’s a compromise. Perhaps these scholars want to prove that our religion is like theirs. It’s not just the pictures that have hurt our sentiments & feelings, but the commentary is antichristian. As we find references from the gita, upanishads… etc. We also find Gayatri mantra, Arjuna’s war, reference to rebirth as a way to attain salvation. This is not all; the commentary has literally confused us, Christians, as our very foundation of the story of creation is called a myth by these Bible scholars. The commentary states that the crossing of Red sea is not to be taken literally as the Red Sea never parted. The effect was used for box office effect. The plagues on Egypt are not proven scientifically. The miracles of the five loaves of bread have not happened & are not to be taken literally.

Father, we have written to the publications & to our Bishop too. As we are worried about the younger generation, our future church. We were told that we have not matured enough. We were called Orthodox by Fr. Tony Charanghat in the local newspapers. The Bp. gave reference to Vatican II saying that Rome does not reject the truth in other religions. I do agree that all religions have some elements of truth, but I know that we have the whole truth. As Jesus is the Ultimate Truth. He is the Truth, the way and the life. If we believe what these scholars say then where is the need to evangelize? This Bible is not accepted by many priests too. But the priests are scared to speak. For the first time I have seen that the priests are afraid to speak the truth & frightened to stand up to their faith. We, lay people are fighting against scholars who feel they can never be wrong. They believe that the church has the right to interpret the Bible in whatever way they want. But I’m afraid this is total misinterpretation of our Faith.

The reason why I thought of writing to you is that I was told by a St. Paul’s priest that they are attending a retreat at Pota this week. I am praying & fasting for this intention. I pray that God Gives them some wisdom to realize what harm this Bible has caused, as 50,000 copies are already sold. This book surely promotes inter faith dialog as Fr. Tony Charanghat & Bp.Dabre puts it. It is surely an inter religious faith book. But can surely not be called The Bible. I wonder if you could drive home this truth to these Scholars. I’m also afraid as the devil is working so powerfully to promote the sale of this Bible all over India. I hope & pray that he doesn’t succeed in enticing The Tabor Ashram to promote the sale of this Bible. If that happens, I’m sure the Devil will win the battle & will have a great big banquet. The Editor of St. Paul publications will surely try to get a sale of these so called Bible through Tabor as this is one place where Jesus’ work is carried out in its pure original form. There is no compromise in the name of Indianization. This is one place where Jesus is present & acting through the Tabor team.

We pray & hope that this retreat enlightens these scholars & fills them with the gifts of Holy Spirit, especially the wisdom to discern between what is true & what is untrue.

Yours sincerely in Jesus’ name, Juliana D’souza. 12/A Napier Road, PUNE-40. 9763880378

 

From:
sunny kattukaren
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com; michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Fwd: withdrawal of the NCB

Dear Sir, By this mail I express the urgent need of the withdrawal of the NCB. It is misleading the faithful.
Trusting God, With love and prayers, Sunny Kattukaren AGRA
[PRO-LIFE MINISTRY]

 

From:
reji vechoor
To:
k_p_thomas@irco.com
Cc:
frvani@gmail.com; jperumatti@yahoo.com;
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: New community Bible

Though we never met each other I know Br. Michael Prabhu. He is very strong in his Catholic faith and a crusader against the new age movements which many times indirectly and directly divert the Faith in Jesus to many other modern thinking.  

About New Community Bible,

(1Cor. 3:18-23) gives answer to these “wise men”, who wants to become heroes by mixing Jesus the Only Son of God and the Only Saviour of all human kind with mythical gods and stories.

“Word of God” – men were under the control of Holy Spirit when they spoke the Message of God (2Peter 1:21). So today I need the help and power of Holy Spirit to understand, accept and follow the Word of God. If I simplify little more, in order to understand what the author wants to say thru his story, I need to understand him who wrote it.

If we examine the life of prophet Ezekiel we can understand this bit more,

In Ezekiel chapter 2 and 3 we see,

Ez. 2:2 “While the voice was speaking, God’s Spirit entered me and raised me to my feat, and I heart the voice continue.” – The spirit filled listening of the Word

Ez. 3:3 “fill your stomach with it.” – Word of God is not for half learning from here and there, to be learned fully.

 

 

 

 

Ez. 3:3, “It tasted as sweet as Honey” – When I accept the Word of God thru the power of Holy Spirit, even if there wails and groans in it, I receive It as Sweet Honey. Because Now I can understand the Holiness of God, I can understand the Mighty Power of God and after all the Unconditional Divine Love which lives and works in me and around me everyday.

Therefore I do not need any pagan writings support to explain the Divine Word. The community Bible or Bible commentaries can have explanations about the author who was inspired by the Holy Spirit to spoke the Word, the place and time, where and when it was written etc… for my greater understanding. It doesn’t need any human approval for its authenticity.

Last but not least, we should understand and accept this truth, “Salvation is to be found through Him alone, in the world there is no one else whom God has given who can save us.” (Acts 4:12)


So let us pray for the gift of right judgement and gift of discernment to accept the right even if it does not give me any fame, name and gain in this world.

“So stand ready, with truth as belt…………………. (Eph. 6: 14-20)

Trusting all to Jesus thru the immaculate Heart of Mary Reji Vechoor DUBAI

 

From:
charan colaco
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:56 PM

Subject: Re: ORISSA BURNING AND THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Bro. Prabhu, Greetings in the Sweet Name of Lord Jesus Christ.

Of late I’m keeping very busy this doesn’t mean that I’m not reading the KC mails and your mails (especially the NCB). Let me share with you about the NCB bible and your chain of emails, the same was forwarded by me to many Catholics including religious people none have responded not bothered to talk about it. This has really hurt me a lot. Well I have even mailed few church leaders about the NCB, till date I haven’t heard from them.

Let’s pray that God may give them the Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding to take appropriate action at the earliest.

Please keep me in your prayers; also we do remember you in our DAILY prayers. In Christ, Charan Colaco DUBAI

 

From:
Fr. Ligory Philips
To:
jperumatti@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net ; response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:56 PM

Subject: Re: A NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE by Michael Prabhu

Dear Friends, It is very sad to interpret the Word of God as one likes even if he is a scholar. We believe the Scripture is the Word inspired by God through the Holy Spirit and the Catholic Church teaches this faith and we follow and teach our children. Our Lord Jesus Christ taught about the Eucharist – the Body and Blood of Christ, and some people left His company. “Jesus then said to the Twelve, “Do you also want to leave?”  Simon Peter answered him, “Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.” (John 6:67-68)

St. Paul’s words – “Brothers, I could not talk to you as spiritual people, but as fleshly people, as infants in Christ. I fed you milk, not solid food, because you were unable to take it. Indeed, you are still not able, even now, for you are still of the flesh. While there is jealousy and rivalry among you, are you not of the flesh, and behaving in an ordinary human way?” (1Corinthians 3:1-3). He continues, “According to the grace of God given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building upon it. But each one must be careful how he builds upon it, for no one can lay a foundation other than the one that is there, namely, Jesus Christ. If anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, the work of each will come to light, for the Day will disclose it. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire (itself) will test the quality of each one’s work.” (1Corinthians 3:10-13

My humble request is, please… please don’t water down the Scripture and it’s doctrines for the sake of any one or anything. Let us be proud of our Faith and so shall to the Church and the Magisterium.

Finally a word form the Book of Lamentations, “Your prophets had for you false and specious visions; They did not lay bare your guilt, to avert your fate; They beheld for you in vision false and misleading portents.” (2:13-14).

I don’t want to involve in any arguments or dispute, but as a follower of Christ I profess my Faith and stand for it. I stand for the Catholic Teachings and do not agree to the NCB interpretations.

May God Bless us all, and the Lord Jesus guide us all and the Holy Spirit inspire us all. Fr. Ligory Philips PRIEST

 

From:
fernandoleo74@gmail.com
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE –CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

dear mic thanks for the email. UCAN is interested in your opposition and criticism of NCB. 

kindly let us know that any other organisations or individuals have voiced their opposition to the new version so that we may also interview them and write a news story. Thanks regards Leo Fernando UCA NEWS

 

From:
regina_d’costa
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: New Age Bible

I fully support all efforts of Michael Prabhu in defence of the “FULL TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL IN INDIA”.
I pray that God’s face shine on you and your family.  On the forefront of battle, I pray God’s holy fire surround you and your family. With much love and prayerful support, In Jesus Mighty Name, Regina D’Costa U.A.E.

 

 

 

From:
leila_aranha
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:05 AM

Dear Michael, I pray that God will give you all the wisdom, strength and discernment you need to get St Paul’s to withdraw this Bible. In Brazil there is a parallel religion which was originated from Africa. I hope and pray such a thing will never happen in India. Love, prayers and blessings Leila Aranha LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM

 

From:
sini abraham
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
prabhu

Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:24 AM

Subject: Re: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

I, Sini Abraham, am a born again believer [Orthodox Christian Church] in Christ Jesus.  I came to know about the NCB Bible via an article by Michael Prabhu, and am writing to express my opposition to the publication of such adulterated versions of the Bible.  We humans must dare not to play with the Word of God.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

Revelation 22:18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

Loving regards, Sini Abraham DOHA, QATAR

 

From:
venite menezes
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:04 AM

Dear Micheal, Thank you ever so much for being a watchdog for the Catholic Church and the teachings of Jesus,! May God bless you. There is very little I can say but be amazed at how the Bible is always distorted by some people who try to put it on par with other “holy” books — especially of the Hindu teachings. 

How come the Hindus or people of any other religion never distort what is written in their “holy” books which “if you had eyes, and if you had ears, you would see and hear” that it is pure ‘MYTHOLOGY’ — meaning non- existent.

I will certainly forward your letter to all my friends. Thank you again. Venite Menezes GOA

 

From:
leila_aranha
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:34 AM

Subject: withdrawal of the NCB

To, St Paul’s Publications
I am shocked to hear that you have published a distorted version of the Word of God by way of the New Community Bible. Christianity is a unique and true religion and has no parallel. How dare you print a Bible which is nothing but a new age book. I urgently demand that you immediately withdraw this book before the wrath of God comes down on you, the so- called theologians and other collaborators of this evil venture of yours.
I pray that the TRUTH will prevail and ALL Christians who may get hold of this book will be filled with the Spirit of Truth and not be deceived by false theologians who are trying to misguide them. In the name of Jesus I bind the new community bible to the feet of Jesus and ask HIM to banish it to the deepest and bottomless pit of hell. Leila Aranha LONDON

 

From:
amendonsa
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
prabhu

Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

In response to a request from Mr. Prabhu, I would like to categorically object to the publication of the New Community Bible.  From the text or info I have received, I feel we are misled on this issue by St. Pauls Society.

I reject the erroneous and misleading commentaries and false interpretations in the NCB and all the references to Hinduism showing them as similarities with biblical events and persons, and we are asking for further printing, publishing and sales by St Pauls to be stopped without any further delay.

The Bible is Unique and it cannot be change according to our wishes and fancies.  The Holy Bible is the Word of God and not the Word of Man. Best of luck for all who fight against the publication of NCB.

Alphonse Mendonsa Team Leader Manglurchim Mothiam PO Box 8503
ABU DHABI +971-50-7716748

 

From:
violet scolt
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:16 AM

Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

Dear Prabhu, Thanks for sending me this message. I was totally aghast at this news and I hope the Good Lord will help us in this mission of withdrawing this horrendeous work.

I hope that my reply will add a little more pressure to what is not acceptable.
Violet Scolt

 

From:
Fr. Joseph Vas
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:41 PM

Subject: Fw: Christian Ethnic cleansing in India

Dear Mike, I am posting to you some thing Derrick had done about the NCB long since. I had a very long talk with him concerning the NCB and he posted me his communications to the Cardinal and Archbishop of Mumbai. He has rightly challenged them. I am sure God is with us. Go ahead yours ever in the Divine Word, Fr. Juze Vas, SVD., INDORE

From:
					derrick dcosta
					To:
					joseph vas
					Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 1:45 PM 

Subject: Re: Christian Ethnic cleansing in India

 

Dear Fr Juze It was inescapable for me the words of the readings were spoken for Orissa. Late that night I read through the entire Lamentations of Jeremiah. If the Indian Church accepts this opportunity to purify itself and follow Christ purely they will be assured of Gods protection. My 17 July letter to the Bishops is attached. What is written is what I felt and if I was wrong which today I feel, is not so, I would be the happiest man. 

God bless Derrick D'Costa BAHRAIN
				

From:
					Fr. Joseph Vas
					To:
					derrick dcosta Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 9:34 AM

Subject: Re: Christian Ethnic cleansing in India 

Dear Derrick, Today's first reading that is Jeremiah 20:7-9 reveals the type of feelings you have been going through these few days. I am sure that the prophet was a prophet who must have felt the same like you. Please read it. I know you must have gone to church on Friday as it is a holiday for you in your vicariate. 

Take care, yours ever in the Divine Word, mog asondi, Fr. Joseph Vas PRIEST, INDORE

 

From:
P J Joseph
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 4:34 PM

Subject: Copies have gone to Archbishop and Auxilliary Bishop

From: P J Joseph limjoe@vsnl.com

To: Her Excellency President of India presidentofindia@rb.nic.in,
Hon Shri S G Shah Registrar S.C. of India supremecourt@nic.in,

Hon Shri A K Antony Min of Defence ak.antony@sansad.nic.in

CC:
daniel.george@timesgroup.com

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:53:33 +0530
Subject: Indianised Bible causes discord among the flock – Times of India Aug 28, 2008.

Her Excellency President of India, Rashtrapathi Bhavan, New Delhi

Your Excellency

I hope and trust I can submit to Your Excellency my concern on a very serious sensitive issue now expected to be added to decrease our commitment first as Indians. With or without knowing the added seriousness to the internal security of our Country. I am submitting a copy of this submission to our respected Supreme Court, to request whether a stay order on distribution of the “Indianised Bible” is possible, as a special case, pending a ruling.

My concern is, can we permit such continued endeavor with ease, to fabricate stories to mesmerise Indians who are concerned first about our internal security being decreased through religious fanaticism now with a Bible fabricated by Indians without revealing the motives.  India is a country committed to secularism. So the latest issue has created a dilemma of doubt whether introduction of “Indianised Bible is also under our procedure for business or with any other
motives. […] I am making this submission to Your Excellency, since I am not in a position to engage a lawyer to request an immediate stay order on the distribution of the new Bible pending a genuine mental processing of the authors whether the Indianised Bible was written with any abnormality in their brains as liars. Only to know the end results expected by them from such Bible fabricated with lies. With respects, Yours truly

P J Joseph The Trinity, No 5 Kandigai Road Korattur, CHENNAI 600 076 Tel 044-26512189

 

From:
gilda pereira
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:20 PM Subject: NCB

Dear Bro. Michael, Thanks for informing me about the New Community Bible.  I strongly condemn having this type of Bible which obviously is a New Age Bible.  Thank you for being such a good consciencious catholic and warning us.
Yours sincerely, Gilda Pereira MUMBAI

 

From:
richard mascarenhas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:00 PM

Subject: RE: [Re: ORISSA BURNING AND THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE]

Thank you Mike for sharing this email from Fr. AA.  Looking at the zeal and the spirit of this priest, I could not control my tears flowing down as I was reading sitting in my office.  The love for Christ is manifested so well in his email.  We need priests like these who can speak for the faith and not change and compromise the faith for the sake of pleasing others.  How low will our Cardinals, Bishops and Priest stoop.  Christ desired that they bow in humility but we have them bowing as cowards. Is the present day persecution God’s way of setting things right?  If it is so, then we need to thank the persecutors.

I am going to talk to Fr. AA personally sometime today.  When you write do convey my good wishes to him.

Many thanks Richard Mascarenhas OMAN

 

From:
stella benny
To:
response2community@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:05 PM

Subject: erroneous NCB

Dear All, The New Community Bible in first place should not have been printed & circulated. The very contents in this book do not show any compliance with our traditional Catholic Bible. The commentaries are distorted and are very confusing.

In other words it is the clear-cut violation of our Lord’s first commandment; ‘”I am the Lord your God; you shall have no other gods before me.” (Ex 20:2-17 Moses receives the Ten Commandments from God; CCC 2083-2550). I have taken these lines straight from “Catechism for First Holy Communion”, by St. Pauls Publications. Now the reason behind quoting this line is that this book introduces our young ones to the Christian doctrine for the first time. Which I’m sure like me, all have had savored the flavor of true Christian teaching from this.

 

Now too this book is used as the primary tool on training our young ones. Later stage you have a book in the name of New Community Bible to dispute all the Christian truth which was previously learnt. If this book continues to be circulated or if it is not timely rectified, one can foresee frightening consequences.

Here I also wish to connect another issue pertaining to our Indian Church. That is the hymn book with the name “Praise the Lord Song Book” (9th edition) has Indianised hymns (Bhajans) on page number 155 which starts with “OM”. Whenever the sincere effort was made to notify & rectify the error it went ignored and also unheard.  

I sincerely hope & pray that someone with appropriate authority (Church) takes notice & initiate appropriate action.

[P.S.: Dear Michael, I sincerely regret for not responding on this mail id. I can see myself that I am nearly 50 days late in writing.  I wish you success in all your endeavors. May God always be with you guiding & protecting you at every step.]

Love & Prayers Stella Benny SAUDI ARABIA

 

From:
royston fernandes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:10 PM

Subject: Fw: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Hello Michael, First of all I’m shocked with development such as this book. Here I’m having problem in addressing this as a Holy Bible. This book should be off the book stores, printing press or any other medium. I personally wish to join u in a signature campaign against this blasphemy. Bye Love & Prayers Royston Fernandes SAUDI ARABIA

 

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc: Bp. Thomas Dabre
vasaidiocese@vsnl.net

Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:10 PM Subject: Re: ORISSA BURNING AND THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael It is strange that you put the title together in that way. As the letter of mine on NCB said, chastisement inevitably follows such official apostasy as it did for the Byzantium empire in 1453. My sadness does not diminish knowing that I could foresee these events in the spirit.
These events are truly connected in ways you may have on reflection realised to be true.  I am unable to provide you the ongoing assistance which you must need, but will do my best once this Orissa crisis is past. God bless Derrick BAHRAIN

 

From:
mathew thomas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:44 PM

Subject: RE: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

Hi Mike, Thanks for the letter, hope you are doing fine. My understanding and aim of inculturation is to bring the gospel into the heart of fellow Indians. I have not gone through the scholarly work of the NCB…hope all is well
God bless and love Mathew Thomas BANGALORE [Fulltime evangelist since more than 10 years]

 

From:
sunu xavier
To:
mic hael  Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: NCB shocks me

Dear Bro Mike, First and foremost I thank Lord God for your stand that you dare to voice for the Truth at all cost. Concerns burden my heart as I read the lines of NCB. I am afraid that if such ‘spiritual contaminations’ are not nipped in the bud, the shepherds will eventually become licensed agents of the devil and in the long run will not escape the wrath of God.

As a convert from orthodox Hindu family and as an ex-seminarian I have continual sorrow in my heart regarding the spiritual maladaptiveness of many Christian ‘spiritual’ leaders and pockets of religious congregations in India and abroad who encourage and strive to spread this spiritual maladaptiveness in the name of ‘liberal thoughts’ inviting spiritual disasters up on the faithful. My heart freezes on reading the commentaries of NCB.

How I wish and pray that the groups of Lazaruses behind the wrong teachings be brought out of the spiritual graveyard by Jesus. Sunu Xavier.V.S NAGERCOIL [CONVERTED FROM HINDUISM, ex-Jesuit seminarian]

 

From:
rema mendonce
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: In appreciation

Dear Michael, It is so amazing to know that there are people like you bringing in light into our otherwise worldly and busy lives. This light takes us into the best part of our lives, which we may otherwise tend to forget about.
My father was a Hindu so even though I was brought up as a Catholic I wondered about many issues and found that very few Catholics really were warriors. I have found one in you and wish that I will be able to find many answers through your ministry. Your write up has woken up the soldier in me and i wish to support the cause you are fighting for!
Love and warm regards, Rema Mendonce CHIKMAGALUR [PARENT CONVERTED FROM HINDUISM]

 

From:
larsen gonsalves
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:38 PM Subject: NCB

Hi. I support the withdrawal of this book. Larsen Gonsalves

 

From: martin_mendonza
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: URGENT AND IMPORTANT.

Dear Mr. Prabhu,

Just wanted to appreciate your courage and enthusiasm with the whole issue. I think you are fighting a lone battle and you need all the support and help that is required. I have done a wee bit by forwarding the message to as many people as I know. I have also spoken to a few of my close friends about the subject and asked them to spread the word as well.

We, my family and I pray for you and your family and mission here every night and I’m sure God will bless and help you abundantly in all your endeavors. Please also remember us in your prayers as I’m sure God listens to you for all the work you are doing in his name. Love and God bless. Martin, Rema, Anushka and Aditi Mendonza CHIKMAGALUR

 

 

From:
githa rebello
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:48 PM

Subject: FW: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

Michael, Here is my support for your cause.

I strongly condemn the use of the word Bible for this Book. The Word of God should not be misrepresented. This is an eye opener for the Catholic church in India to relook at the ignorance that it has nurtured by neglecting the Word of God be it in Church worship, Catechism, Christian educational institutions. It is high time we took the best practices from the Protestant brothers and strengthen our faith and knowledge of God. Our youth are joining other Christian churches for there is far more enlightenment in Word of God and fellowship in these Churches. Thanks Githa
Rebello BANGALORE

 

From:
rochelle vaz
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW…

Dear Michael, Its really sad to read the information you have sent regarding the ‘New Community Bible’.
I am in full agreement that this ‘so-called’ Bible should be withdrawn from publication and distribution by any book stall even if it may be ST.PAULS. Regards, Rochelle Vaz MUMBAI

 

From:
thereza dsouza
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: Request for your response

Dear Michael, Yes, I oppose the printing of the new community bible.
Thanks & Regards, Thereza D’souza

 

From:
geeorge alappat
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:18 AM

Dear Mr. Prabhu, Thank you for your mail.  With regards, Geeorge A.V.

 

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:21 PM

Subject: letter to Fr. Tony Charanghat (The Examiner)

Dear Michael, I made a few changes in the letter that I had sent to Fr. Michael Goveas & then forwarded it to Fr.Tony Charanghat, The Examiner. I tried to write a shorter one, without the Scripture quotes, but I was prompted to send the same one, as it was my inner voice, especially meant for Fr. Tony C. Below is the copy of what I sent to Fr. Tony C.,,

Love & God Bless, Juliana.

Rev. Fr. Tony, Praised be Jesus & Mary, Now and forever.

Let me confess that I am a very very ordinary person & a simple servant of God. I surely have done no Philosophy & have had no formal education in the Bible. I am surely a fool in front of the vast knowledge that you might be having of not only the Bible, but also the deep knowledge that you have of Gita, Mahabharata, Upanishadas, etc. But I am sure with all this knowledge that you might be having, you are yet a small creature in front of The Almighty & in front of all the Knowledge & Wisdom that He possesses. The only thing that I have is a deep and sincere love for my God and for my faith. I sincerely believe that The Bible is the Word of God and that every dot and dash in this Book is correct. I believe that God speaks to me everyday when I read His Word. He has a message for me everyday & He answers all my doubts & queries.

I have been brought up in a home where Jesus was the centre of our lives. He was the Alpha & the Omega. I am highly in debt to my parents who have given me not just the knowledge of Jesus, but Jesus Himself.

Being brought up in a small village, I have always had non-Christian friends. Presently I am teaching in a J.M. school in Pune. I am also a catechist in my parish. I still have non-Christian children in my school & lots of good non-catholic friends. I also have a non-Christian bhabi & a brother-in-law. I have always respected their religions & their sentiments. I do believe that all religions have not just some, but a lot of elements of truth. I also believe that all religions teach us about Love & Peace. But I also believe that Jesus is the Prince of Peace .I believe that Jesus is Love. He is THE WAY, THE TRUTH & THE LIFE, not a way a truth and a life. While they have half truth, we have The TRUTH. I do pray that one day they may understand this great truth that is found only in Christianity & in The Holy Bible.

Instead of comparing what is similar & parallel in theirs & our religion I show & teach what is Different in ours & their religion, in our God & their gods. I believe that My God is the One & Only True LIVING & LOVING God. And only He has the power to forgive our sins as He Is The Only God who took up our sins & Died for us. He alone can give us Life & Salvation. I preach this through my life, my living & by sharing my experiences with my friends & students, as I feel evangelising is the obligation of every Catholic.

I am truly upset to find the teachings of other religions in our Holy Book (NCB). The Bible is not an inter-religious book. When we know the truth & have the truth, where is the need to look out for truths in other religions & even to draw parallels & similarities. They know half truth, we know the full truth.

My concern is the faith of the future Church & the younger generation, who might read the NCB & believing in every dot & dash & the commentary as it comes from the Scholars, who feel they can never be wrong, will feel that truth is found in all religions & in temples & Mosques… etc (pictures in the NCB) as it is very much a part of the Bible. Where is the need then to evangelize? Who will be able to stop them from worshipping in the temples & the Mosques? Isn’t this a compromise?

Are we scared of the Hindus and are wanting to please them? Are we not scared of the Punishments & Plagues that can come upon all those who try to change or add anything that is in the Bible? Rev.22: 18, 19. Have not these scholars destroyed the sanctity of the Bible with inter-religious commentary & the semi clad pictures? (Flight into Egypt).

 

 

 

Do you think St. Joseph & Mother Mary who are the symbols of Purity & Chastity will feel proud of seeing this deterioration of their images? Who has given them this right? Fr. as you said in the Pune Mirror, 11th July, “We cannot communicate unless we communicate in the culture of the people”, so would you ever like to wear a dhoti & go around without a kurta? I had sent my responses to all the three newspapers. Unfortunately it was not published. You said, “no one is up in arms against this Bible which is a good sign.” (Mumbai Age, 19th July). Let me tell you there are many like me & with me not just lay people but also priests, (the priests can surely not protest as they are bound by law to obey their superiors) who are only trying to solve this matter internally within the church for it will be a shame if the protest is taken to the streets, but if necessary that will be the ultimate solution. By publishing articles such as, “Vatican Banks on Sari Clad Virgin Mary” (Sakaal Times, Sun 27th July), we may be able to fool people but we cannot fool God. For it is the duty of the priests to safeguard whatever is Holy in Our religion. Malachi 2:7, 8. “It is the Duty of priests to teach the true knowledge of God. People should go to them to learn my will, because they are the messengers of the Lord Almighty. But now you priests have turned away from the right path. Your teachings have led many to do wrong.”

This NCB may make sense to the scholars, but surely not for us, lay people. We want to know & follow what is True & Holy in our Bible, not in other religions & definitely not through Bible. This book definitely cannot be called The Bible & can surely not be recommended as a substitute for a Bible. If the Lay people of Pune have any right, let me represent them & the future faith of our church, or else you will see our church crumbling down in front of your eyes & you all who promote this Bible will be responsible for shaking the very foundation of the church, The Word of God, The Bible.

Yours sincerely in Jesus’ name, Juliana D’souza PUNE

 

From:
ivan lobo
To:
prabhu
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE…

Dear Mike, On reading your mail I was disturbed. Well the contents I must say are challenging. Indianising Jesus, if I may have the liberty to put it. I tried to reflect on an Indian Jesus, if you understand what I am trying to say. I looked at Jesus in a lotus posture or in saffron attire. I did not get anywhere. Indianising the teaching, I failed miserably. For I felt teaching is teaching — what has it got to do with a place a community or culture? Then I realized that the teaching of Jesus was based on the Jewish religion, their culture and tradition and do you know what I realized? That Jesus challenged the way the Jews understood their God whom they worship as the Living God. Jesus explained their errors and mistakes and took them to most challenging part of accepting Himself that is Jesus as the Christ. Jesus said before Abraham was I AM. Would I be right if I said that Jesus challenged them at every step and presented them God as they had never understood and drew them out of darkness into His marvelous Light which they refused and still refuse. In accordance to the presentation I reflected on Jesus in an Indian context. I feel if anyone willing to be challenged then let him follow Jesus but to see a Krishna or Rama in Jesus the Indian does not need the NCB as the Jews don’t need the Bible, as they do not want to see Jesus in the light of His, that is Jesus’, presentation.

Mike, just imagine, Jesus said ‘pull down this temple and in three days I will raise it up’. Jesus challenged them with the very thing for which they would lay down their life — the Temple. Now imagine Jesus saying something like that in an Indian context I wonder what the punishment will be? Burnt alive, I guess. Yours in the struggle for Jesus, The Christ,

Ivan Lobo MANGALORE
[Trained Catholic evangelist and retreat preacher]

 

From:
praxy_gomes
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:06 AM Subject: New Community Bible

I fail to understand as to why Our Holy Book “The Bible” should be rewritten with references to Hindu religious texts & mythology – inculturation of our Holy Book. This bible should not be circulated as it will create more confusion amongst the followers of Jesus Christ. Praxy (Maria Luisa Gomes) MUMBAI

 

From:
dominica gonsalves
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW…

I am not a biblical scholar but at the same time I am familiar with the Bible too.  This email comes to you to let you know that I fully support the call for withdrawal of the new community bible that is being printed.
No man or living being has the right to tamper with the Word of God. I have forwarded the mail and the article by Michael Prabhu to all my email contacts.  This is the least that I could do. May God Bless Michael in his mission.
Regards, Dominica Gonsalves MUMBAI

 

From:
laxmijc@hotmail.com
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: NCB

Praise The Lord!! Thank you for the immense research u have done… I was very angry when I went thru the NCB, how could one reinterpret the TRUTH from the Scriptures.
I was born as a Hindu. I am following the lord Jesus as my personal saviour for 13 years. I am a Catholic today. (Immense persecution- to stand up for the faith has been a struggle)
Its disappointing when NCB compares the Biblical figures to any other faith.
I completely agree that NCB should be stopped from been published any more.
Would recommend people to stop reading it. Regards Sarah Nayak [CONVERTED FROM HINDUISM]

 

 

 

 

From:
reji vechoor
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: Community Bible

God is good all the time!! 

Dear Prabhu, Thank you for the good work you do. We need you like alerted souls to protect the Divine Glory where our brothers (St. Pauls) search for ways to make money and become famous.

Let us keep on pray for the people involve in it. May the mercy of God give them wisdom and understanding. May the authorities of Catholic Church act without delaying and keeping in mind the greater responsibility God entrusted to them.

I give my heartfelt support thru this mail on all your effort regarding this.

Entrusting all to Jesus thru the Immaculate Heart of Mary Reji Vechoor DUBAI

 

From:
trustgod@yesusxt.org
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:45 PM

Subject: FOR INTENSE INTERCESSION PLEASE. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE —

Dear friend in Jesus, We have received your mail. We are keeping the message before Jesus present in the Most Blessed Sacrament. Trust God, and see the glory of God… Trusting God, Joju NEW DELHI [CATHOLIC PRO-LIFE MINISTRY]

http://www.YesusXt.org; TrustGod@YesusXt.org Trust God Prayerbank, PB No.10809, Mehrauli, New Delhi 110030

 

From:
l a dmello To:
ashulobodesai; michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: RE: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW…

All: With no disrespect to anyone –

The majority of the laity has difficulty understanding what is already in the Bible. Why then add to the confusion.

There has already been enough adulteration of Christian traditions and practices by some so called ‘enlightened’ people within the Church by having texts from non-Christian religions read during Christian services, yoga, etc.

Will those responsible for the above adulteration please have the humility to understand that the majority of the laity are struggling through life with the truth that has been in existence for the past 2008 years  – why add to their burdens?  The Gospel passage of today 25th Aug is a timely reminder to such “enlightened” persons.

If the new content needs to be included/annexed to the Bible and if its inclusion is guided by under divine revelation does the Vatican has a say? 

Will this inclusion (text of other religion’s documents / publications) be available for the Church in all countries – if yes, would a conservative western European understand the implications. If not, is it only meant for the Indian sub-continent??

Louis D’Mello Cell: +91-(0)9845359777

 

From:
marianusbarnabas
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
Michaelprabhu

Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:58 PM

Dear Fr. Victor, As we are discussing the Holy Bible, I would very much like you to ponder over today’s homily. The beginning of the Church and the responsibilities of all of us as Christians have is clearly manifested when Peter answers the Lord for His question “Who do you think I am?”

We need to have simple and straight forward approach to profess our belief without any mix up. No doubt we respect other brethren but that does not mean that our doctrine should be distorted. There can be many books written on comparative analyses which could help everyone to understand the Bible better. But if we are going to distort the very Bible by incorporating unwanted doctrines from other religions then we have to really to sit back and think.

May be you had attempted with good intentions but the basic fact is the NCB you have brought out has unwanted contents which should not figure in our main doctrine. Hence please arrange to withdraw the NCB at the earliest.

Thank you, Yours in Christ, Marianus Barnabas CHENNAI

 

From:
fjerryn@yahoo.com
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: Withdrawal of NCB

Dear Father, I am writing this mail requesting for the withdrawal of The New Community Bible (NCB), which was released by St Pauls on June 28, 2008. Regards, Jerry Nirmal CHENNAI

 

From:
rohan_parish
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: THIS IS AN ABOMINATION TO OUR CENTRAL FAITH

IT IS THINGS LIKE THESE THAT ARE DRIVING CATHOLICS TO OTHER DENOMINATIONS, AND THE FAITHFUL GETTING DISILLUSIONED BY SUCH SO CALLED FREE THINKERS.

HOW CAN THESE PEOPLE EVEN CALL THEMSELVES BIBLICAL SCHOLARS??????? WHO HAS GIVEN THEM THIS TITLE?

I DON’T SEE THEM ADDING ANYTHING SCHOLARLY TO THE FAITH. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THESE FREE SPIRITED RADICAL THINKERS, WHO OBVIOUSLY EITHER DON’T KNOW THEIR HEAD FROM THEIR ELBOW OF THE TRUTH OF THE WORD OF GOD. OR ARE THEY THE DEVILS ADVOCATES
TO PROPAGATE THE WORD OF THE EVIL ONE
WHO IS OBVIOUSLY VERY ACTIVE IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, TO DESTROY THE VERY FOUNDATION OF TRUTH?

ST. PAUL’S ARE KNOWN TO BE MORE OF A MONEY-MAKING RACKET. SINCE OF LATE, THEY HAVE STARTED KEEPING BOOKS FROM OM PUBLICATIONS WITH OUT EVEN REALIZING THAT THEY ARE RUMORED TO BE A GROUP OF FREE MASONS. SADLY EVEN OUR SALESIANS ARE SUPPORTING THE SAME.

 

 

 

WHY ARE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE BISHOPS BOWING, NAY STOOPING SO LOW AS TO ACCEPT ANY RUBBISH FROM ANYBODY IN THE NAME OF RELIGIOUS EQUALITY ???????

SHAME TO THE NCB AND ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT IT. IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE THAT THESE WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO PASS AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE THAT “MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME AND PREACH, EVEN THE EVIL BEAST WILL STAND ON THE ALTAR AND PREACH THE ‘WORD’.” HOW TRUE IS THIS!!!!!!.

WHY ON EARTH DOES ONE NEED TO “INDIANIZE” THE BIBLE?

WHY CAN WE JUST “BIBLEIZE” THE INDIANS??

I AM QUITE CONVINCED ST PAUL MUST BE TURNING IN HIS GRAVE AND READY TO STRIKE AT THESE PAGANS IN THE CHURCH IF THE GOOD LORD ALLOWED IT.

DON’T PLAY WITH THE BIBLE IT IS THE WORD OF GOD (NOT A SINGLE POINT / LETTER OR COMMA) IS TO BE CHANGED REMOVED OR ADDED. “CURSE BE ON THE ONE TO DO THIS ABOMINATION.” (Book of Revelation)

I SUPPORT YOU IN CALLING A COMPLETE BAN ON THIS PUBLICATION AND SUE THE NCB AND ST. PAUL’S PUBLICATION. I HAD BEEN A REGULAR CLIENT TO THEM BUT I VOW NEVER TO SET FOOT THERE EVER.

TO THE BISHOPS OF INDIA STOP BEING SUCH COWARDS IN THE NAME OF RATIONAL THINKING AND RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE, BECAUSE OUR RELIGION TEACHES TOLERANCE BUT FOLLOW THE LORD’S WORD. EVEN HE QUESTIONED WHAT WAS WRONG. HE DIDN’T TURN THE OTHER CHEEK. THANK YOU MR. PRABHU

Dr. Rohan Parish GOA

From:
rohan parish
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:13 AM

Subject: Am and NRI But now based in GOA

Dear Micheal Praise God for his mercies. I am an NRI but now very much in INDIA / GOA and have forwarded this message to my prayers group (115 in Number) and all my 201 E- Mail inserts.

MINE WOULD NOT BE A NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF THE NCB but the DEAD BOLT which only JESUS may open.

MY FAMILY IS STRONGLY AGAINST THIS AND I ON BEHALF OF THEM DO CONDEM THE SAME. ROHAN

 

From:
maxine d’silva
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:41 PM

Subject: RE: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

I am totally against this new Bible. I find it difficult to understand what the Church is up to.
I have made my feelings known to all those concerned. Many have agreed with me, but say they are helpless.!!!!!!!!!!!!
God Bless Maxineneta D’Silva NASHIK

 

From:
andrew_fernandes
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Withdrawal of NCB

I sincerely object the approval of NCB, the contents should be checked thoroughly by the Church authorities before making public. Love & prayers, Andrew Fernandes DOHA-QATAR

 

From:
ajnazareth
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:29 AM

This so called Community Bible should not be published as it is not just a translation but has additions which do not really form a part of the original Bible and distorts the bible John Nazareth CANADA

From:
ajnazareth
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: The “so called Community Bible”

Dear Prabhu, I learnt about the NCB from CGNET news which is a world wide channel of news exchange about Goan and Indian Catholics May God Bless you for the good work you are doing John Nazareth

 

From:
Fr. Eric D’Souza
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:53 PM

Subject: Recall the NCB

Dear Father, We do not need such Biblical scholarship that instead of leading people to read the Word of God confuses them and misleads them to the New Age way of thinking. The NCB should be recalled forthwith.

Fr Eric D’Souza, SJ., VASAI

 

From:
Summer Sands Beach Resort
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
prabhu

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: feedback on the NCB

Dear Sir, I have not had the opportunity of reading the newly-released version of the New Community Bible, but from what I hear about it, I am very shocked at the desperate attempts to do away with Christ and water down his teachings. We cannot compromise. Our aim is not to get millions who will not know the real Christ. It doesn’t matter if they are only a few of us, but let us not dilute what is Christianity and remove the focus from Jesus.

If there is good in all religions why should I / you be a Christian???

I pray the Lord Jesus Christ give you the wisdom and understanding and reveal his light to you to do the right thing.

Always trying in Christ, Asha and family. Asha Lobo MANGALORE

From:
Summer Sands Beach Resort
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:36 AM

Subject: email address to forward to

Dear Michael sending you some email address where you can forward for support against the new community bible. regards asha

 

 

 

From:
aaron savio
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:35 AM

Subject: Re: FW: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE — CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Praise God Bro. Michael!!!!! I fully support the call for the withdrawal of the NCB… I am a working youth (an engineer by profession) involved in The Torchbearers of Christ Ministries – Mumbai. In my walk with Jesus I have heard many testimonies of youth of other faiths who have given their lives to Jesus Christ b’coz of the Power of God manifested & spoken through His “UNADULTERATED” Word of the Living God which I believe —is & ever shall be— “Alive & Active, sharper than a double -edged sword, piercing until it divides the Soul from the Spirit, joints from the marrow.”

I pray that the withdrawal of the NCB would be a sign of Lifting only Jesus above all as the one true unique Saviour that has been professed & carried on from HIS walk here on Earth. Rgds Aaron D’Cunha MUMBAI

 

From:
Fr. John de Britto OSB
To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 2:39 AM

Subject: RE: UPDATE and ALERT: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST.PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael Prabhu, Thank you for your report and analysis regarding the New Community Bible. 

I am wondering what is more impressive: the negligence and lethargy of the Indian bishops or the audacious distortions and attacks against the Catholic Faith from the authors of the NCB.

I have sent your observations to quite few Roman priests working in some dicasteries in the Vatican. We have to inform people. Information at higher level is the most important way in order to oblige shepherds to fulfill their duty.

You are doing a very good job. I can presume that you have the congratulation of the many saints in Heaven and faithful defensors of the Faith who never made compromises in matter of Catholic Doctrine.

We are living a very strange and confused time. Catholic belief is just becoming an opinion even among so many others, and this attitude is more or less supported at times even among clergy. When wolves are invading the sanctuary of our Mother Church it is our duty to shout and wake the drowsy watchdogs. The dictature* of relativism is so strong that not many have the courage to do something for defending the honor of Christ or of the Church. *dictatorship

Here in this particular case the Bible, one of the sources of Revelation has become the target of the enemies of the Church. Saint [Pope] Pius X who fought courageously against modernism would have taken strong action in a situation like that. The historical sense of the Holy Scripture sense is relativized and sometimes completely disappearing. The traditional way of understanding the verses or the passages in the Bible is either bypassed or derided. Religious pluralism is trying to impose itself under the cover of Indianisation. New age theories are not far.

Without boasting (2Cor 12: 17-18), since I am a Doctor in Theology (Summa cum laude) of the University of the Holy Cross in Rome, I was an expert at the Synod of Bishops in 2001, and I am now teaching Dogmatic Theology in various in several Formation centers and seminaries (Europe and India), it allows me to give you a very positive appreciation on your analysis and to encourage you to keep doing your irreplaceable job. Let us pray that the Lord will enlighten the mind of the guardians of the Faith (Episcopos means the one who is looking very accurately in order to watch) and help to find the appropriate remedy for preventing people to be contaminated by the poison contained in this edition.

I am about to leave Europe on the 9th of September in order to go to Kolkatta first where I will give a 10 days session to the Sisters of Mother Teresa Congregation. Then I will arrive to South. My intention is to spend two days in Chennai, the 28th and 29th September. I will be staying in Archbishop’s House and will contact you if you are there. It will be a pleasure to see you again. May God bless you and keep on blessing you and your family.

Fr John de Britto, OSB., Abbaye Saint Joseph. F – 21150 FLAVIGNY, FRANCE Tel 0033 380962231

Doctor in Theology (Summa cum laude) of the University of the Holy Cross in Rome; Expert at the Synod of Bishops in 2001. Teacher, Dogmatic Theology in Formation centers and seminaries in Europe and India.

 

From:
Fr. Joseph Vas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:53 PM Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB].YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE — CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Dear Michael, Thank you for the update on the NCB.

You as a committed Catholic have raised an important issue which will make a difference to the common believer.

When one goes to buy a bible if one comes across a bible which is not Catholic but syncretization, it will mislead the simple believer. So your highlighting this issue will warn the intelligent reader to be aware of evils that may crop up due to this publication. Often it is because of the eagerness of some misguided zealots these problems occur. I am sure right minded people will surely be not taking this as the true Bible.

As you say we will join the signature campaign to get this NCB withdrawn from the market. The publishers must be prevented from making money on wrong issues. With God’s blessings to you and your family,

In the Divine Word, Fr. Joseph Vas SVD., INDORE

From:
Fr. Joseph Vas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:47 PM

dear Michael Prabhu, I am glad you continue your commitment to the Faith. Conversion is a good process. Ever since you have testified to your conversion I have been wondering why you were so silent. You had gone on other type of ministry I thought. Now you have become active once again and taking up issues which mean so much for protecting the tenets of our faith. Fr. Joseph Vas

 

 

 

From: Fr. Joseph Vas To: prabhu Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: Re: hi

Dear Mike, thank you for your reply.

…Now as you say that you did not get any reply from the NBCLC, I cannot say so. I have an answer from the new director. which says, Thank you for your e-mail to Fr. Thomas. I am the new Director of NBCLC.
The Bishops and the Resource Persons of the NCB, with the cooperation of St. Paul Fathers have addressed the difficulties regarding the Bible. Modifications will be made regarding the publication of the next edition. With regards

Fr. Cleophas D. Fernandes [Director, NBCLC BANGALORE]

Hope the modifications are not going to be just some useless comments once again, since they have been syncretising the whole issue. They must withdraw it from the market. That would be the right thing to do. We are trying to please the brute majority of the fundamentalists rather than live up to the call of the Lord. Anyway let us hope things will move in right direction to the church in India. Fr. Joseph Vas

 

From:
gerardjesus To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:09 PM

Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB].YOUR RESPONSE…

I support fully and call for immediate withdrawal of the New Community Bible. Gerard Fernandes

 

From:
shalini_dsouza
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

Praise the Lord!! I have forwarded this mail of yours to my friends. Earlier I had mentioned about the NCB, but since no one had seen it they were hesitant to make any comment. With your detailed description on the NCB, a few will reply, I will send my response too. Shalini D’Souza MUMBAI

 

From:
jolly jacob
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:54 PM

Subject: Re: OPPOSITION TO THE NCB, CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NCB

Dear Mike, God bless you for the terrific crusade you and your ministry are doing against the evil doings happening amidst us. With love and prayers Jolly Jacob New Delhi

From:
jolly jacob
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:32 PM

Subject: Have mercy on all of us

Dear Mike, Praise be to the Lord, the Alfa and the Omega.

I am really shocked to read the articles of your Ministry on the New Community Bible being brought out by the St. Pauls Publications. What is bothering me is that it has the authorization of few bishops and priests. I wonder how this kind of lackadaisical attitude and irreverence is shown when dealing with a subject that makes millions confused in their faith.

It is also shocking to understand from your earlier findings that some of our priests and religious practise and follow the worship methods similar to other faiths (yoga/aarti etc.) in their ashrams instead of living like Jesus-following Christians in the principles and teachings of the Church and giving true worship to the Almighty God. It is a fact that nilavillaku (a particular type of pedestal lamp that is generally used in temples) has gained an important place on our altars nowadays instead of candles. At many of our religious functions, a variety of dance forms traditionally used in worshipping the Hindu deities are performed under the auspices of Church authorities. Some of our vernacular devotional songs are made to the tune of popular Hindu devotional songs that are used in their worship. These are all done in an attempt to woo people from the other faith to our religion. We are trying our level best to evangelize India with these gimmicks – adopting their “culture” into our life and debase ourselves in the eyes of the Lord. What we do is to finally lose our own values and faith in which we should have stayed as a rock.

Now a New Community Bible is being introduced incorporating comparisons with other religious beliefs which belittle the importance of the Bible – a love letter from our Abba Father to His children – to the standard of merely a book. At a time when speculations rumor that the deity Krishna of Hindu mythology is the same and one as our Redeemer and the only Son of God, Jesus Christ, this particular book is only going to strengthen their new ideology. The importance of the Word of God — that has the power to create, heal our soul, mind and body — will diminish to the standard of a novel to the new generations as also to other faiths. This is all because some people are being won over by Satan, giving new thoughts of inculturisation, and have become his instruments in penetrating into the minds of millions of faithful to question the divinity of the Christ Jesus.

While this has been authorized by the Church in India for wide circulation for whatever reasons, in all probability there should be a crusade against this to withdraw immediately. All faithful and sincere Christians should stand in unity behind this saga to crusade against the wishes of Satan.

I extend all my prayer support to crusade against this, Mike. With love and prayers,

Jolly Jacob, Delhi Crusaders [Intercessory Group]
NEW DELHI

 

From:
jsgerard
To:
Stewards business group [joininghands@yahoogroups.com;] donboscotpt@yahoogroups.com

Cc:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:16 PM

Subject: Fw: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

Please respond if you care for the Church  – before it becomes “Jesu Peetham” and our Pope “Jesusacharya” – Mass will be replaced with yagna and homam – communion will be made papadam [papad, appalam].

Smoke of satan ????  Awful horror coming ????

 

 

Those so called “bible scholars” must be QUARANTINED and used in villages and the Church must explain why so much funds were wasted on behalf of the devil. God save the church.

Gerry CHENNAI
[Co-founder, ‘Stewards’ prayer group for Catholics in business]

From:
jsgerard
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
Leslie Prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: NCB – the devils’ latest salvo I did read about this trick of the devil in the papers. The Church must immediately withdraw this “smoke of satan” – quarantine those so called “bible scholars” and explain how they spent so much money on a wasteful and harmful project as this for 3 decades God save the Church Gerard J S

 

From:
wnfernandez
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
Michael Prabhu

Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: Withdrawal Of the NCB

This is in response to the e-mail received from Uncle Michael regarding the New Community Bible.

We went through the same and are shocked that such a publication has been approved of by the Church here without properly going through the contents of the same. The Bible is meant to bring people closer to God and not lead them away from Him. To the innocent reader who gets the NCB in order to know and understand the Bible better (I bought a copy of the NCB for the same reason), it is very misleading especially with references comparing incidents in the Bible to myths and legends from other religions. We fully support the cause for the removal of this Bible. May the Lord Bless this campaign and enlighten the people against buying it. Winston Fernandez DUBAI

 

From:
carol_dcunha
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: RE: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW…

Dear Bro. Michael, Praise & Thank God for the gift of you and for your spirit of boldness in revealing the TRUTH especially in these days of confusion where the faith of so many Catholics is being shaken and so many are leaving the Catholic Church to join new groups and sects which Satan has planned so well with deception and lies!!! I was forwarded your email thru a friend of mine and I in turn forwarded the same to many on my mailing list – since I definitely & wholeheartedly support your cause in defence of the FULL TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL IN INDIA!   

Actually it is so very sad, because this being the Pauline Year, we celebrate how St. Paul changed from Saul and with a missionary zeal stayed faithful to the teachings of Jesus in the face of tremendous opposition and fought against heresy to remain ever faithful to the teachings. And here is St. Paul’s Society under his patronage straying away from the truth! It makes me wonder how they come out with these misleading thoughts and ideas and that too by our educated and intelligent elite to whom people look for guidance are the ones leading the people astray.  Actually it takes so much to save ONE Soul, but such Institutions can take hundreds down the wrong path in one stroke. 

May our Abba Father, Jesus & Holy Spirit save us all through the Precious Blood of Jesus! 

May our Holy Spirit fill you with wisdom and grace to continue fighting for the TRUTH!  You have our prayer support in your endeavour! God bless you, your Team, & your family always! Yours in Christ Jesus, Carol D’Cunha MUMBAI

 

From:
anwar theresa
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:11 PM

Subject: RE: ALERT and UPDATE : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE…

Dear Michael, Love, peace and joy be with you. 
I agree what you have written and I will write to them and also forwarded your letter to many of my friends.  we are praying for you and for the work you are doing for the Church  We are with you in this mission. best regards  

Theresa Anwar KARACHI, PAKISTAN
[Chairperson, Pakistan Catholic Charismatic Renewal Services; former Member International Catholic Charismatic Renewal Services]

 

From:
jeyasingh
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
tonyarambur

Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:37 PM Subject: the holy bible

I have gone through the eight pages of material presented through the internet. I am happy that the HOLY BIBLE has gained importance in Catholic circles. There was a time when Catholics never read the Bible in privacy. Very few of them owned a BIBLE. Many homes did not possess a Bible. Recently, say, during the last 2 decades there has been a change and Catholics began to take interest in the bible.

Now there is a controversy about the Community Bible launched by His Eminence Cardinal Archbishop of Bombay. Instead of rocking the boat or muddying up the waters the matter could be referred to Rome. There are experienced and dispassionate minds there who can think clearly and keep “GLORY TO GOD” as the top-most priority.

Our LORD has promised that “The Gates of Hell will not prevail against His Church”. Let us prayerfully wait for the LORD and not venture to start judging the living and the dead. Let us all be disciplined Christian soldiers marching as to war with all evil. Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Group Captain John Samuel Jeyasingh MUMBAI

 

From:
josephinepereira
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:43 PM

Subject: Fwd: FW: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Bro. Michael, I am extremely sorry for not seeing this mail until today. I praise and thank God the Almighty for a few people like you who make this ugly world a little beautiful. May God Bless you in your endeavour. 

 

 

 

I fully support your cause and shall be interceding to our Loving God the Father to intervene and stop further publication of the NCB.  I understand about 30,000 bibles have been published and sold.  However, nothing is impossible with God, trust Him and something beautiful will come out of it.  Praise & Glory to God The Mighty now and forever. Whilst on the subject, I confirm having already forwarded you email to all those on my mailing list. 

In the service of Christ always. Josephine Pereira MUMBAI

 

From:
joel godwin fernandes

To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:22 PM

Subject: RE: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Dear Mike, I know I am a little late with my reply. But however, you have my opinion too.

I also condemn use of such a Bible as the references take us to the religion of our ancestors which doesn’t have any kind of clear indication of salvation nor a uniqueness of God. I urge that in your efforts, you may be successful and pray that God may give you the grace, that these endeavors may be fruitful, for your mission and your ministry. New age is least little known and it is widespread even in Islamic countries such where I live. But new age creeps in such a way, that it hardly seems dangerous or threatening to dilute one’s faith and belief.  

St. Pauls are known to produce and publish books that are quite in contrast to the Christian Teachings leave alone the Catholic, as it was meant to promote and establish Catholicism but the opposite is true in the name of “running the show”. My full support and I personally condemn such a bible (note the small ‘b’) making its way into Catholic families, which quite a lot are already on the road to perdition due to the lack of desire to belong to the Church of Christ, the lack of bringing up the children in Catholic values and lack of encouragement to children to be adherents. God have mercy!

God bless you for your humongous task. Pray you and your ministry success which will be a success to all of us. Regards, Joel Fernandes and family DUBAI

 

From:
NAME WITHHELD ON REQUEST
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:56 PM

Subject:
Re: NEWS ITEMS IN THE INDIAN PAPERS ON THE NCB / METAMORPHOSE CATHOLIC MINISTRIES; YOUR HELP REQUIRED

Dearest Brother, First my apology for replying late …as I wanted to be sure to fetch the paper first and then write to you.

I managed to get the copy of the newspaper [about the NCB] and will courier it to your Chennai address.

Also it is so sad to know about NCB bible …thank you so much for letting us know about this and also I have sent mails across about it & also in orkut groups.

Please do include me in your private list of protesters to BAN the NCB. Thanks, with love, Lay person
NEW DELHI

 

From:
maria laura pio
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:56 PM

Subject: RE: THE NEW COMMUNITY “BIBLE”

Dear Michael, Thank you for your mail. Yes, I received your reports and read them, and also Javier sent me a copy of the article that was published in The Times of India. I am very proud of your work and thank the Lord for it.

I’m sending you a brief letter of support to the response2communitybible@gmail.com account (and will also copy it at the end of this mail), and please forgive me for not writing a longer and more detailed letter. You know that you have all my support. Counting on your prayers, and assuring you of mine, Warmly in Christ, Maria Laura

I have read with great attention Michael Prabhu’s report on The New Community Bible and wish to express my concern regarding the points raised in the report.

I live in Switzerland, and have witnessed for the past 30 years how the New Age practices and ideologies have been infiltrating our churches, to a point where some fellow Catholic faithful believe that there is no difference between yoga meditation and Christian prayer. This means that somewhere down that logic, they have come to believe that prayer is not a loving dialogue between the creature and its Creator, but that it is a concentration exercise in order to relax whilst fixing one’s attention on a void. And this in a country where the vast majority of the inhabitants are baptised.

I believe that as Christians, we have often been unable to preach the Gospel, because we don’t understand fully that it is not simply a religious text. It is the Word of God, it reveals who God is. Of course, we recognize all that is good in other religions. But we have Jesus Christ. He is the way and the truth and the life. No one goes to the Father except through Him (cf. John 14:6). Either we believe it, or we don’t. If we start making confusing parallelisms with texts of Hinduism, we will be only sending out the message that one text is as worthy as the other. And as Christians, we should have a problem with that way of thinking.

I would consider much more useful to replace those problematic comments with more explanations on the historical, religious and cultural context of Palestine, which are very different from those of India and essential in order to understand deeply and fully the meaning of the different texts of the Old and New Testament. This would be in the line of the comments made by our Holy Father in his latest book on Jesus of Nazareth, where he discusses in the first chapters the importance of a correct biblical exegesis.

Maria Laura Pio BALERNA, SWITZERLAND
www.infovassula.ch
[CATHOLIC APOLOGIST, INTERNET MINISTRY]

 

From:
prabhu
To:
johndayal@bol.net.in ; johndayal@vsnl.com ; Dr. John Dayal, President, All India Catholic Union ; johndayal@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:27 AM

Subject: NEWS ITEMS IN THE INDIAN PAPERS ON THE NCB / METAMORPHOSE CATHOLIC MINISTRIES; YOUR HELP REQUIRED [EDITED]

 

 

 

THE NCB IS A BRAHMIN IMPOSITION.

IT DOES NO GOOD FOR THE DALITS AND TRIBALS AND THE YOKE OF CASTE.

THERE IS A SUBLIMINAL “OM” ON THE NCB COVER.

AICU, PLEASE STUDY THE ATTACHED REPORT AND JOIN OUR OPPOSITION.

Dear John …

From: “John Dayal” <catholicunion@gmail.com> To: “prabhu” <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net>

Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 6:23 PM Subject: Re: NEWS ITEMS IN THE INDIAN PAPERS ON THE NCB / METAMORPHOSE CATHOLIC MINISTRIES; YOUR HELP REQUIRED

How can any one accept a bible which praises the Vedas connected with Manu who is the father of casteism?
I have always and very severely criticised the attempts of some in the church who confuse inculturation with Brahminical imitations. This was the substance of my presentation at the CBCI seminar recently in Pune on culture and mission. God bless you, [Dr.]
John Dayal, New Delhi

Member: National Integration Council, Government of India

National President: All India Catholic Union (Founded 1919)

President: United Christian Action, Delhi (Founded 1992)

Secretary General: All India Christian Council (Founded 1999)

A Salute to the Indian Laity

http://groups.google.com/group/JohnDayal/browse_thread/thread/fd083c4aacb17926
I write this, possibly my last missive as the National President of the All India Catholic Union in its 89th Year, on 9th July 2008 from the Pastoral Centre in Kanjimendi in the Kandhamal forest plateau of Orissa’s Cuttack Bhubaneswar Diocese.

I had come here to help train the Laity to depose before the Justice Basudev Panigrahi Commission which is probing the anti Christian violence that shook the region during Christmas 2007, leaving in its wake over a hundred Churches and institutions destroyed, women raped and molested, several thousand rendered homeless and at least five persons dead of wounds inflicted by the marauding gangs of the Hindutva Sangh Parivar that displaced Constitutional governance with the rule of the mob between 24 and 27 December 2007…

This is a Laity which is not known to many in the world’s Catholic Leadership, and perhaps not even to many in the Indian hierarchy outside of the central tribal belt of the country. This is a Laity far removed from the one we are familiar with in New Delhi, Calcutta, Jaipur, Kanpur, Gorakhpur, Mumbai, Pune, Chennai, Goa, Pondicherry, Madurai, Hyderabad, Shillong and Bangalore… Questions in Kandhamal and Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh and Udaipur, Jhabua and Indore range from issues of food and employment to scholarships and human dignity, the prevention of exploitation of migrant women, to understanding an acculturated Church that is far away from the brahminical trappings which many Priests and a few bishops confuse for an `Indian Church.’John Dayal

 

From: Fr. George Kaitholil
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: Thank you

Dear Michael Prabhu, Thank you for sending me the reactions to the NCB. I am not able to tell the merit or demerit of the Bible concerned or of the reactions to it as I have not yet read this particular edition of the Bible.
However, I believe, the concerns expressed in the reactions have to be taken into account and addressed. I have contacted a knowledgeable person in Bandra and I am told the matter is already taken up by the CBCI which has appointed a commission to study the matter and make a report. What the report will say, I do not know, but I am confident it will deal with the concerns expressed in the reactions to this particular edition of the Bible.  It could be that there have been some mistake on either side. Perhaps seeing the matter from a third angle would clarify the matter.

Let us trust in divine guidance and, with an open mind, hope and pray for what is best so that truth and love may prevail. George Kaitholil, SSP., ALLAHABAD [Priest of the Society of St Pauls that published the NCB]

 

From: jojucc
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com ; michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: withdrawal of the NCB

Dear Sir, By this mail I express the urgent need of the withdrawal of the NCB. It is misleading the faithful. Trusting God, with love and prayers, Joju NEW DELHI [CATHOLIC PRO-LIFE MINISTRY]

 

From:
gilbert morris
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:06 AM

Subject: Re: NEWS ITEMS IN THE INDIAN PAPERS ON THE NCB…

I wish to strongly place on record our objections to the articles mentioned. Gilbert Morris AUSTRALIA

 

From:
richard mascarenhas
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:25 AM

All Believers in Christ Jesus

Having read through the commentary that our learned theologians have given showing parallels from other books with the Holy Bible, it seems to be a beginning of the agenda to fragment the Catholic Church.  While the references to the pagan gods and rituals of worship will in no way bring about more evangelisation, it will certainly give reason for Catholics to be comfortable practicing the pagan forms of worship and feel one with the pagan faith. 

 

 

 

The Holy Bible was for all times presented to the Catholic faithful as the inspired Word of God.   It is also all along being told that the books of other faiths are only myths or stories and therefore not inspired.  

Today the Church leaders are calling texts of the Bible to be myths.  Under the pretext of indianisation and inculturisation, the Word of God is diluted by commenting that much from the Bible is also found in books of other faiths.  We are now at liberty to do surya-namaskar and worship the son god, recite the Gayatri Mantra instead of the Psalms, and bow to all the 3+ crore gods. 

The commentary very boldly mentions that much of the Bible is a myth, quite a revelation for the common faithful.  While the Hindus hang on to every word of their books as sacred and unchangeable, the theological pundits of our times are ready to call much of the Inspired Word of God in the Bible as crap and replace it with that of the books of other faiths.  It seems so that the Holy Bible with the Word of God has lost it power to convince people of the Truth and evangelize.  That the WoG was very effective centuries ago to impress upon the common, underprivileged and illiterate people but lacks the power to pierce the hearts and minds of the rich and the educated.  Or is it that the present day Bishops, priests and the religious are so happy with their material comforts that they sit to use their knowledge and inspiration in such manner to make easy their work of evangelisation.  Will this be a profession of faith?  The “Creed” in all certainty will have to change to make way for new beliefs.

The NCB is nothing but a step towards further fragmenting the Catholic Church, the Task of the “Father of Lies” made easy by the “Wolves in Sheep skin”.   Lies after lies are being said about the NCB being sold off the shelves.  The NCB is released with great fanfare all over the country without first informing the people of what is so special about it, then only to purchase it and find that the Shepherd’s and custodians of faith have sold their soul to paganism.

The NCB is not worthy to be called a Bible and to be the Word of God.  The works of the learned theologians is deplorable and fit only to be condemned and burned down in public places.  The NCB must be withdrawn from further circulation with immediate effect,  or an agitation all over India must be planned till the devil’s evil design is defeated and the Church leaders give a public apology of having misled the people.  

Are we witnesses to the Prophecy in the Bible in Matthew 7:15 and Acts 20:29?

Richard Mascarenhas
PO Box 2991 PC 112 Muscat
SULTANATE OF OMAN

 

From:
pietro braccu
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:05 PM Subject: R: UPDATE and ALERT: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE; JOIN THE OPPOSITION CAMPAIGN

Dearest Michael, I am sorry, but I am sure I didn’t receive this e.mail or maybe went straight to the “anti-spam” file…

Here below my testimony – Please I authorize you to publish it!
Dear brothers in Christ, My name is Pietro Braccu, I am 33 years old, I am Italian and a fully practising Catholic. I am living from many years the Discalced Carmelite spirituality.
I visited India many times and made friends all over the country, and I know there many religious belonging of different religious orders. I know personally Mr. Prabhu, or better Brother Michael, as I consider him.
We met several times, and I had the great privilege to share with him many spiritual experiences, thoughts, etc. In my point of view his work is extremely helpful. He is balanced in his judgements and I fully believe that his mission is inspired by God. My spirituality was enriched after meeting him. I fully recognize that he is right, I read his works and I don’t find any exaggerations…
Michael is a generous and kind person, as well as his family all, that I considered extremely educated and devoted Catholics. In spite of its temperament, knowledge and mission, he is a person of compassion. But he is very concerned about the hierarchy, because he clearly see the great mission (and responsibility) that God gave them to guide HIS people.
I have just read his report on the “New Community Bible” and I see that he is right in his attempt to point out
the mistakes. I am only deeply surprised, REALLY, on how the Catholic Indian hierarchy is so “light” in printed out such an important work, as it is a community Bible, that will influence the spiritual life of millions and millions of people. Really with great lightness!!!!
In Italy, for example, such a work would be submitted to several theological commissions in Rome before receiving authorization to be printed out.
A MISTAKE CAN EASILY GENERATE THE EVIL AND NEGATIVELY INFLUENCE THE MINDS AND THE ACTING OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!
Just a short note that I would like to share with you: a couple of years ago I spent with Michael Prabhu 2 weeks retreat at Father Bede Griffith’s Ashram near Trichy, formerly a St. Benedict Camaldolese monastery.
Not to mention all the odd things that we both saw there, with the strange attempt made by Fr. Griffith’s followers (mostly westerners that live openly in state of sin and with so many personal problems) to combine Catholicism and Hinduism… But I was particularly touched by Michael’s concern about the habit experienced there to give the Holy Communion to non baptized people! Only this was sufficient to me to recognize in Michael a real man of faith and his deep love for Jesus Christ the Lord and his holy Catholic church. Thank you Michael for your work! Please don’t stop! May God bless you all,
Pietro Braccu BUDINI, ITALY [Discalced Carmelite]

 

From:
Br Valerian Dalmaida
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 4:30 PM

Subject: New Community Bible

Dear All, I have sent my protest against this book as soon as I read its release published in www.mangalorean.com.

 

 


It is very sad that those who have to propagate Catholic faith among people have taken this shortcut method to include such information in the Bible by way of commentary which is not true to Catholic faith. I know that I received simple faith from my parents when I did not know to read and write that Jesus is my God. Thirty seven years of my life, I was only a Sunday Christian and for four years I never came to church. God brought me back to his fold at the age of forty one in a mysterious way and my testimony could be read in various websites
including www.konkanicatholics.com and www.divinemercysharjah.com
I had the opportunity to go through this NCB and I felt very sad. If this was for a particular purpose, then this could have been published for a private circulation as a book and not as a Bible. Its inauguration could have been done silently without any publicity. Tell me one thing, after 100 years when the printers, publishers and all of us are gone, our children will refer to which Bible? Which is the true Bible? The child who reads this Bible will say all religions are same. All gods are same. No, this is not true. This is the work of Satan. He did this in the Garden of Eden, he challenged Jesus but he could not win over Him. Now he is using the heads of the Catholic Church to destroy the word of God.
What does the CCC say? What is our Creed say? Is it all false? Is Jesus is not true God? Is Jesus is not the only God? Then why all this?  If all those people involved in the publishing of this NCB can stand on the altar and say that Jesus is not the only God and also Jesus is not the true God and there is salvation outside the Catholic Church, then believe me, I will be the first one to accept this NCB.
If they are accepting from the altar that Jesus is true God and Jesus is the only God and there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church then do not be hypocrites! Tell the truth to the people who do not yet know Jesus, the true God, the only God without any fear.
Dear Hindu brothers, do not be misled by this so-called Bible. This is not the truth. The truth is this: Jesus went on doing well (Acts 10:38). Good is God and bad is evil. The people behind this book are trying to cheat you by saying so many things like the Gayatri Mantra and Psalms 5 are same, parting of the red sea is a box office hit and adding in the commentary the references of Upanishad, Gita and all. But, the truth is they want to spread the Gospel by cheating because they think that this is the easiest way to spread the message of Christ. I tell you, Jesus is the only true God, there is no other God than Jesus. Accept him by reading the RSV edition.
Dear people of Catholic faith who are involved in publishing this book, for heaven’s sake do not cheat our Hindu brothers in this way. Tell them the truth that Jesus is the only true God. Why do you fear?
I am in Abu Dhabi and I preach the Gospel here without any fear, then why do you fear? We can give Jesus to every one by our words and deeds. The right thing to do is to call for a press conference and withdraw this book. If you have done it for making money, then I think people wont mind it because most copies I am sure are bought by Catholics. Tell them to destroy them in the name of Jesus. Instead of committing a sin of leading our own brothers and sisters astray, it is better to burn these copies and see the fire out of it here, now, instead of burning in hellfire by prophesying that all gods are same. Maranatha!

Love Valerian Dalmaida, P.O.Box 33433, ABU DHABI, UAE. Mobile: + 971 50 7123965 LAY PREACHER

 

From:
salu mothi
To:
MangaloreanCatholics@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: Re: New Community Bible

Dear Michael Prabhu, NO GOD FEARING PIOUS CATHOLIC will have the guts to complain about NCB as it has IMPRIMATUR from Bishop, lest curse will fall on them!
Your campaign may not yield much results. It would be more appropriate to draw the attention of the higher ups so that there is a immediate action.
Dear Prabhu there are very few committed and righteous like you who are determined to follow the words of Jesus Christ. Others simply don’t have the time. They are too busy accumulating wealth and after worldly pleasures. Dev Borem Korum.

Salu Mothi MANGALORE [in response to this ministry’s posting of the TOI and Orate Fratres reports in MC 942, Aug 14]

 

From:
nelly rosario
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:46 PM Subject: NCB

Dear Mike, Thank you for the information about the New Community Bible. 
I have not seen/read a copy of this bible but based on your write-up about it, I am definitely opposed to it.
A Bible cannot have any additions or deletions to it, moreover any such type of commentaries therein as stated in your mail, is totally unacceptable. God bless! Nelly Rosario DOHA-QATAR

 

From:
naveen rudolf To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: FINAL CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, Dr.Naveen here from Bangalore. Peace be with you and may the peace and grace of the almighty God be upon us all. I also heard about this bible which was told to be a very simple indianised ecumenical word of God. I was in search of this for i thought when i look at it i would know the importance. But i have not seen one anywhere.
It looks like if it were from God there would be no problem for what God has foretold about our future what we are going to be through the letters of our first Pope. There will be intellectuals who will draw you away so be strong in your faith so you may not be fooled by these people.
This may not be called a bible (word of God) but it better be called word of mortals.
Jesus said the enemy has planted weeds among the good crop which can be removed when the harvest is ready.

 


This intercultural scripture is a summons for Catholics for a strong call to hold on to their faith by being rooted and grounded in the love of Christ. On the contrary this word of man will disturb everyone’s subconscious mind where we will be continually bringing false gods upon our lips creating loss of peace on the long run. This would break the first commandment. You can always mention my name for it is earthly, but my life is eternal.
AMRG -Ad Majorem Resurregentis Gloriam Dr. Naveen Rudolf BANGALORE

 

From:
Fr. Joe Mary Lobo

To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: Response to yours on NCB

Dear Michael, God Love You!

You are doing an excellent job in making Bishops, Priests, Religious and our Lay Members aware of the dangers of this NCB. I am just now in Canada. I have not read this Bible. If what you say is true, then I am with you. We cannot jeopardize the faith of our people. As it is the Church is beset with dangers. My prayers and my full cooperation are with you. God bless you! Guruji Joe Mary
M. Lobo Sri Christa Sharean, BIRUR 577 116. Camp: Mississauga, CANADA


 

From:
sini abraham
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:17 AM

Subject: RE: UPDATE and ALERT: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST.PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Hi Mike, I’m amazed by your zeal for the Word of God.  And really happy to see people like you in this busy world where people don’t have time for our Lord. 

Just had a quick glance thru your NCB article.  Excellent.  Can I share this with some of my Catholic friends?

By the way, I am not Catholic, but Orthodox Christian.  But I am of the opinion that the congregation doesn’t really matter. Its important to be born again and have Jesus living in you. God bless. Best regards, Sini Abraham DOHA, QATAR

 

From:
Javier Lopez Torres
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:34 AM

Subject: New NCB Bible: A true profanation!

Dear Reverend Fathers and Reverend Bishops,

I read with great sadness from Spain about the new NCB edition of the Holy and Sacred Bible in India by the Society of St. Pauls.

The word “Sacred” is always the word companion of the word “Bible” in Spanish! It is not used in vain here! (we say “Sacred Bible”, not “Holy Bible”). The Bible is the Word of God alive, and any change or modification is a true profanation of the Bible. 

In such a way began the Jehovah’s Witnesses and many other sects and we are watching the harmful effects of deviation and separation among Christians that these alterations of the Bible have caused. The Word of God is yesterday, today and always the same. It was written at a given moment in history and for a chosen people. To change it is a very serious offense, affront and attack to the sacred. It is also an act of contempt for tradition, one of the pillars that sustain the knowledge inside the Church.

A new and false theology could easily be created from this new bible. I can imagine an innocent Indian reading about Yoga in this “bible”, immediately he will think that to practice Yoga and use of Prana in breathing and healing is legitimized by the Church.

He will even think that this also is the “Word of God”, and we know there are enough Vatican references alerting Catholics to the dangers of using these esoteric practices.

This false step given with this new “bible” seems to me a very serious mistake and I think the Vatican should intervene immediately and to block and prohibit it completely. Rather than an inculturation this is a shameful misrepresentation and distortion. It is another form of syncretism and religious pluralism many times condemned by the Church. It is a strong attack against the very foundations of the Church. Javier López MADRID, SPAIN

From:
Javier Lopez Torres
To:
Fr. James Manjackal
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:26 PM

Subject: Bible: Michael Prabhu in The Times of India!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Conservatives_protest_desi_version_of_Bible_/articleshow/3344526.cms

Conservatives protest desi version of Bible
9 Aug 2008, 0535 hrs IST

From:
Javier Lopez Torres
To:
Fr. James Manjackal
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: The Bible with a touch of India : Inculturation works!

The Bible with a touch of India: Inculturation works!

http://mnachiappan.indiainteracts.com/2008/07/15/the-bible-with-a-touch-of-india-inculturation-works/

 

From:
dsouza_ian
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:45 AM

Subject: RE: UPDATE and ALERT : CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE[NCB]

Dear Mike, It was my pleasure and duty to write that response.  I salute you who stand in the forefront of it all spearheading the entire exercise.  Keep up the good work.  Do you have the email id of the main St. Paul centres (head offices) where the people who are responsible for this evil work sit.  I might just want to send them a blasting letter or two. With warm regards, Ian D’Souza

From:
dsouza_ian
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: RE: SOCIETY OF ST. PAULS

Dear Mike, Thanks for the addresses.  Yesterday, I happened to be in a meeting where Bp Vally mentioned about the NCB and the flak that it was drawing from the public. 

 

 

 

Basically he was lamenting the gap of understanding and “Biblical scholarship” that he felt existed between the hierarchy and the laity, as a result of which the laity were unable to appreciate the NCB. I felt that it was all humbug, but unfortunately did not get a chance to speak out.  He even mentioned that Michael Prabhu was sending the whole analysis to Rome.
I think that is an excellent idea.   Your analysis and all the opposition collected should be sent to Rome. If the NCB does not pass the test of Rome, then all these nuts will be effectively silenced.  However, with Cardinal Ivan Dias being there, I sometimes wonder how far it will get.  But we must trust the Heavenly Father above (after we have done our part), who alone is sovereign and able to preserve His own Word from contamination as He has most effectively done through the ages. With warm regards, Ian D’Souza MUMBAI LAY PREACHER, YOUTH LEADER

From:
Ian D’Souza
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:50 AM

Subject: RE: BISHOP VALERIAN D’SOUZA. READ ATTACHMENT

Dear Mike, I forgot to mention one more thing that Bp Vally said.  He mentioned that people all over were angry because they did not understand, etc.  But he also said there were some things in the NCB that need to be revised, but then of course continued to say that the major problem was the lack of biblical scholarship, etc…
So I feel that we just need to press home strongly with all that we can muster – trusting the Lord to give the victory.  I am glad to hear that Anthony has also responded positively. 
[…] people I find are afraid to take a stand – all in the name of submission (a false one). You are right, being part of the renewal makes it difficult often to stand up against the tide of evil when it stems from within.
For me the matter is clear, all this is an attempt to indianize the scriptures “to save their skin”.  There is deep fear among the hierarchy due to all the persecutions that have come up in past years as they and the religious, are the ones that are targeted first.  This is understandable, but such ghastly compromise is not the answer. By doing this we are “denying the Master who bought us”.
Besides, Jesus said clearly, if they have persecuted me, they will persecute you, for no disciple is above his master.  It is my deep conviction, that those who personally know the Master will not fear and not shy away from these persecutions when they come, but instead welcome it, as the saints of the inquisition did.  This after all, is the litmus test of the true Christian.  It is precisely such testing that separates the sheep from the goats.  It is a sad day when the hierarchy is exposed through such tests to be possessing more goats than sheep.
Do not FEAR, MIKE, stand strong in the Lord and in the power of His Might.  I am reminded of Paul’s words to Timothy in 2 Tim 4:16-17 – how when all deserted him (Paul), but the Lord Himself stood by Paul as his defense, hallelujah! Ian

 

From:
joseph ulicki
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:03 AM

Subject: Regarding “Conservatives protest desi version of Bible”

Hello Michael, I commented on the online article: Conservatives protest desi version of Bible

Hoping the message would get to you, I forwarded a message to: response2communitybible@gmail.com and received an “auto” reply from: Fr. Victor. If you have not read the message, I will have appended it below:

Hello Michael Prabhu,

As a 57 year old Christian Catholic pro-life parent, who started attending Charismatic renewal prayer meetings in the early 1980’s, and after reading the on-line article “Conservatives protest desi version of Bible” … I was thinking you might be interested in the following 3 web-sites/articles: 

1) Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation
Traditional Catholic  Creation Apologetics on Origins. www.KolbeCenter.org

For more information contact: Hugh Owen 952 Kelly Rd., Mt. Jackson, VA 22842, U.S.A. (540) 856-8453 E-Mail – howen@shentel.net 

2) Kolbe Center home page article: What does the Catholic Church Teach about Origins?
http://www.kolbecenter.org/church_teaches.htm

3) The oath which each pope is required to take states: (partial quote … Part 2, Page 2,  

I vow to change nothing of the received Tradition, . . . to encroach upon, to alter, or to permit any innovation therein; . . .  I swear to God Almighty and Savior Jesus Christ that I will keep. . .  whatever the first councils and my predecessors have defined and declared. . . . I will put outside the Church whoever dares to go against this oath, may it be somebody else or I.

Quoted from: http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/dialogs/church/larson-part2-2.htm

Sincerely, Joseph Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Phone: 1-204-586-6557 Joseph Ulicki, CANADA

From:
joseph ulicki
To:
prabhu
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:29 AM

Subject: Re: Regarding “Conservatives protest desi version of Bible”

…Yes, you may contact me when the signature campaign starts. Sincerely, Joseph

 

LETTER FROM ONE OF THE COMMENTATORS OF THE NCB [NOTE THAT HE NEITHER IDENTIFIES HIMSELF TO ME AS A PRIEST NOR AS ONE OF THE COMMENTATORS]:

From:
Subhash Anand
43subhash@gmail.com
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: sa

Dear Michael, I went through your “Update and Alert” concerning the NCB, and I feel sad about it.

If your name were Michael Ratzinger, or Michael Bush, or Michael Ottaviani, I would understand. But you are Michael PRABHU!

 

 

I appreciate your concern for the integrity of faith. Two things need to be noted here:

1. Our faith is centred on the person of the Risen Lord.

2. Because He is the RISEN Lord, nothing can destroy this faith. In the past many have tried to destroy it. Again we damage our faith not so much by some doctrine, but by betraying the person of Jesus. There have been many Christians, priests, bishops and even popes included, who have been absolutely unchristian, rogues, womanizers and murderers.

I request you to read carefully and reflect upon numbers 12 to 15 of Vatican II Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation (Dei Verbum).

It may also be helpful to keep in mind that in his speech to the Greeks, St. Paul quoted from their (pagan) writers (Acts 17.28). Thus the words of Pagans are words of our Holy Scripture.

The post-synodal document, Ecclesia in Asia (1999) reminds us of a paradox of history: Jesus “took flesh as an Aisan,”(EA 1) and yet “has until now remained largely unknown to the people of the continent,”(EA 2) and “Jesus is often perceived as foreign to Asia. It is paradoxical that most Asians tend to regard Jesus born on Asian soil as a Western rather than an Asian figure.”(EA 20) The Church appears to have largely failed in her mission of effectively the identity of Jesus to Asian peoples. Why did this happen? I am afraid in our eagerness to preserve the faith for our children and grandchildren we may succeed in the wrong way: preserving it only for them. Then the Church will continue to be what she has been for almost two thousand years: a small colony of Western Christianity. Without deep inculturation we will not be able to change the situation, however much we may wish. Do you want the Church to be a ghetto in our country?

You have every right to your views. My only request is that we try to see what is being said by persons who are also committed to Jesus, who have made an indepth study of the Bible along the lines of Dei Verbum. The Holy Spirit is alive in the Church, guiding the people of God to carry the Word to all nations. They will understand the WORD only when we express HIM in their words.

I have also attached a letter* expressing the views of another lay person, who at one time was a very active member of the All India Catholic Association.

With my best wishes, Subhash Anand.

*Download the original attachment
“A LOVE LETTER” # chhotebhai August 2008 

In the beginning was love. With the advent of writing came the Love Letter. SMS and email can never replace the Love Letter.  It is the most precious form of communication between the lover and the beloved, when they are separated by time and space. 

“In the beginning when God created the heavens…the spirit of God hovered over the waters (Gen1:1). 

“In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (Jn 1:1). 

Creation was an act of love.  Redemption in Jesus was the continuing manifestation of that love.  The Bible is the eternal Love Letter that reminds us of God’s love through time and space, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. 

And now St Paul’s Publications have exceedingly enhanced the charm, beauty and appeal of that Love Letter, with the publication of the special Indian edition of The New Community Bible (NCB).  I first fell in love with the Holy Bible in 1975, reading and reflecting on the poetically beautiful Douay version, that my father loving meditated on every morning.  Since then I have read, studied, quoted and meditated on several versions and editions of the Bible, both Catholic and Protestant.  But I have fallen unabashedly in love with the NCB, released on the Feast of Sts Peter & Paul on 29th June in India.  It is quite simply a labour of love.  The recipient of such a Love Letter cannot but feel elated, even ecstatic. 

15 long years in the making, the NCB is perhaps the first English language Bible prepared specifically for India, through the efforts of Indian Biblical scholars (exegetes).  Some purists and fundamentalists may baulk at the every suggestion of an “Indian” Bible.  I would not like to here digress on the composition and evolution of the Bible over the years, and its authentication (canonicity).  Suffice it to say that Love is not static.  It evolves.  So does faith.  So does life and our understanding of it.  A couple celebrating their golden jubilee would define love and life very differently from passionate honeymooners, though both would be right in their own way.  So too, the Love Letter evolves and addresses itself to our changed situations – linguistic, ethnic, social, etc. 

So what’s so special about the NCB?  The easiest part is the physical properties.  It is aesthetically pleasing to the eye.  Its selective use of ancient Roman calligraphy is brilliant.  The rice paper, hardback and gold leafing makes it a collector’s choice.  But collector’s choices are usually found in museums.  That is not where Love Letters should be. 

Though I am not easily swayed by emotions, I felt that lots of love went into the making of the NCB, which is why it speaks to the heart of the reader.  Some Bibles are cut and dried bare text versions.  Others are paraphrases, for easier reading.  Yet others are scholarly tomes that are a mine of information for scholars and researchers.  The notes and commentaries are scholarly in nature, like dissecting a rate under a microscope, to lay its innards bare.  The NCB has an altogether different approach, which I would term pastoral, catechetical and formative. 

The format is threefold – the actual TEXT, a box with CROSS REFRENCES, and thirdly a CATECHETICAL COMMENTARY.  Very often the commentary is longer than the text; but it it’s not burdensome, nor a rude intrusion. It is infact a catalyst or a taste enhancer, and is the unique element of the NCB.  It is in this area that I see a lot of love’s labour.  The contributors have gone out of their way to give lucid and meaningful explanations.  While being faithful to the everlasting content of God’s word, they have also exposed the human elements that went into its making.  The NCB is telling us that indeed the Bible is the Voice of God in the Words of Men; and therefore seeks to separate these two elements. 

This is evident in the biblical account of creation.  Diehard traditionalists and fundamentalists would insist that God created the world in 6 Days and rested on the 7th

 

 

 

The NCB commentary humbly admits that the biblical account of creation is not an attempt at history, geography, geology or physics.  It frankly admits that creation, humans included, evolved over billions of years. 

Another unique feature of the Indian NCB is the cross references to Hindu scriptures (book, chapter, verse, et al). This is especially poignant in the Genesis account of creation and the great flood.  By listing these “uniquely” biblical events with similar ones in other religious scriptures, the NCB is conveying a subtle message. The Genesis (origin) of all mankind and all religions is the same.  After the symbolic Diaspora, consequent to the tower of Babel; peoples, languages and religions diverged.  There was now emphasis on the uniqueness of each religion – what differentiated it from others.  Recent events, notably Vatican II, now talk of religious dialogue, and seeking what is the common factor.  From conversion we now talk of convergence – coming together.  All religions need to follow this path, lest from a common genesis they end up in a diasporal nemesis

On a personal level I felt even greater satisfaction seeing familiar names among the contributors to the NCB – stalwarts like Rui de Menezes SJ, Christopher Coelho OFM, George Soares Prabhu SJ, T.K. John SJ, Subash Anand, and of course Bp Thomas Dabre.  God bless every one of them. 

Even a lover finds warts on the face of his beloved.  There are a few areas for improvement that the compilers could consider for future editions.  The NCB could do with a concordance of frequently used words, phrases, names and places.  Besides the introduction to various books of the Bible, a general introduction on how the Bible evolved, canonicity and inspiration would round off an otherwise excellent effort.  The very first illustration showing God as an old man, with long hair and drooping eyes, is incongruous with the modern image of the NCB.  It tends to perpetuate stereotypes.  My son, to whom I presented the NCB on his graduation, said that God looked like the ogre in the “Lord of the Rings”. Oh Lord, what a blunder!   The gold leaf edging, though attractive, makes the pages stick together in this humid monsoon season. 

Having said this I would strongly recommend that all lovers, including Bible lovers, rush to the nearest bookshop or St. Paul’s outlet, and pick up their copy of this Love Letter – The New Community Bible. You will find yourself falling in love all over again. 

*The reviewer is a layman who is a college dropout, and has no training in Biblical studies.  But then, who needs a degree to love?

 

MY RESPONSE TO FR. SUBHASH ANAND:

From:
prabhu
To:
43subhash@gmail.com
Cc:
vasaidiocese@gmail.com; agnelog@rediffmail.com; nuntius@apostolicnunciatureindia.com; abpossie@gmail.com; bombaydiocese@gmail.com; abpossie@sancharnet.in
diocesebombay@gmail.com; bp_bosco@vsnl.net; percival_fernandez@vsnl.net; response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:16 PM Subject: Re: sa

My dear Fr Subhash Anand,

I thank you for your letter [reproduced below] of August 10, 2008. I intentionally did not respond till I felt inspired to do so now, because (i) I understood from the tone of your letter that it would be an exercise in futility (ii) I needed to let the NCB issue be addressed with my complete concentration. To briefly discuss your letter:

Your comments about my name [my identity and mission] are disparaging and condescending. As a priest and theologian, I believe that you should know better. My crusade is in defense of the orthodoxy of the Faith and not against personalities, though you represent those against whom my team and I are crusading, and therefore would be included by name in my reports.

You have loosely used the name of our Pope though you rebel against Rome [as when Dominus Iesus was released, see attachment which is a follow-up to our original report on the NCB] and want her not to exercise any authority over affairs of the Indian Church. If, God forbid, you and other theologians succeed in having your way, and we know that there are Bishops who support you all, you will establish one more schismatic “church”, and many priests and laity will continue to remain loyal to Rome.

Your arguments or explanations do not convince us.

St Pauls might have published the NCB and theologians might have written some of its controversial commentaries. But three St Pauls priests who contacted me do NOT agree with their confreres, so there must surely be many more. And two theologians believe that the said commentaries are erroneous and dangerous, so again, there will be many more like them except that we have no contact with them.

Born Catholic, and after 11 years living as a Hindu, it was not theological arguments or explanations like yours that brought me back to Rome or which have sustained me till now. Neither are they pertinent to the dozens of priests and hundreds of lay persons, five of them Hindu-born, who have written in support of the demand for the withdrawal of the NCB.

All of us unanimously agree on one thing: if a Catholic were to have a living, personal relationship with the Risen Lord [whom you appeal to], he would not need or have an inclination to do all the things that you all are doing. There is no precedent in the missionary activities of the greatest evangelizers like St Thomas the Apostle and St Francis Xavier to conduct inter-faith prayer meetings, engage in inter-religious dialogue or “inculturate” [at least certainly not the model that you propose in the NCB]. They were filled with the Holy Spirit and simply preached the Word of God, exercising their charisms. We see NOTHING of that in you all who promote religious pluralism and a syncretized Christianity [a poor term since they are mutually exclusive].

Please do not think that we are ignorant, or as Bishop Valerian said in Bombay, “lacking in Biblical scholarship”. Knowledge is not the exclusive purview anymore of academically trained “scholars”. Leading “theologians” in the West today are laypersons, even women [nuns not excluded]. Moreover, theology never saved anybody.

 

 

You also disparage the Indian Church when you describe her as a “small colony of Western Christianity”. If all of you Bishops and theologians would devote more of your time and money and energy to preaching the Risen Jesus Christ of the Gospels as unique Lord and Saviour [see the Acts of the Apostles] as is done at the many charismatic retreat centres [that most theologians detest], India might be a Christian nation.

The total social liberation you all envisage and promote has its natural limitations. All bondage [from which liberation is needed] is caused by sin. That issue must be our starting point. The more that all forms of sin are identified, acknowledged, surrendered to Jesus and repented of, the more complete and wholesome will be our total liberation and salvation, and the sooner will come the Kingdom of God. 

Today, on the Feast of the Commemoration of the Faithful Departed, I had to painfully listen to one of the worst homilies I have endured in my adult life, a theologian telling us that God is so good that no one will go to hell..

We are facing an unprecedented crisis in the Church: attacks on Christians and attacks on the Faith. Most Catholics are concerned about the danger from the saffron without. While I am involved in a response to both, I am mostly concerning myself with confronting the saffron within. Let me end here. Some of the issues that you raised will be addressed in another follow-up report.

Regarding the letter from Chhotebhai Noronha that you attached, you might as well have sent me one from any other commentator of the NCB. To me, it is very suspicious that you sent me his pro-NCB letter since we have communicated a lot and he has directly emailed me some of his earlier writings. Why didn’t he do so in this case? I may be judging you all, but it seems as if the pro-NCB lobby actually sought such a “love-letter” from Noronha.

I admire Noronha’s writing skills and secular critiques, but his spirituality is programmed by the Catholic ashrams where he trained in the very New Age philosophies and practices that today are a malignant cancer in the Indian Church and which this ministry seeks to expose to the Light [Ephesians 5:11].

At your service in Jesus’ Name

Michael Prabhu, Catholic Apologist and Evangelist

PLEASE SEE ATTACHMENT

THE ABOVE LETTER WAS COPIED TO THE CHAIRMAN, DOCTRINAL COMMISION, CBCI, THE APOSTOLIC NUNCIO AND THE BOMBAY BISHOPS. NO RESPONSE WAS RECEIVED.

 

From:
Fr. James Manjackal
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsl.net

Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 2:16 PM

I fully support all efforts of Michael Prabhu in defence of the “FULL TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL IN INDIA”

It is to my great shock that I heard of this strange bible from the article of Michael Prabhu, a student of my School of Evangelisation, and a faithful servant of Jesus Christ always defending the articles of faith in the Church through his speeches and articles. Every effort to publish this “pagan” Bible must be blocked. The BIBLE contains the fullness of truth and it is not to be distorted and manipulated by adding anything or subtracting anything.

These are hard times that even the priests and religious losing their faith in God’s Word and in the teachings of the Church. St Paul says” Now the Spirit explicitly says that in the last times some will turn away from faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and demonic instructions through the hypocrisy of liars with branded consciences”

“For the time will come when people will not tolerate sound doctrine but, following their own desires and insatiable curiosity, will accumulate teachers and stop listening to the TRUTH and will be diverted to myths”(1 Timothy 4:1 + 2, 2 Timothy 4:3+4). Let the publishers of this Bible listen to the teaching of the first Pope, “Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of Scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation…”(2 Peter 1:20).

By publishing a sensational Bible, the Society of St Paul is surely trading on the Word of God (2 Corinthians 2:17). It is time that all those who really believe in Jesus Christ, as the Saviour + Lord of mankind, revealed through the Word of God, must oppose the publication and circulation of this Bible. If the Bishops Conference of India do not take timely action to stop  it, they will be accused by Jesus for their sin of Silence and indifference. If this disputed Bible is published it will be an indelible” black spot” on the image of the Church in India as well as the Society of St. Paul, which is known for its Christian publications. Once again I give my wholehearted support to Michael Prabhu in his campaign against it. I pray to Almighty God and Our Father, who sent His only begotten Son to save us, may send His Holy Spirit upon the Society of St. Paul with Wisdom and discernment to stop its publication.

A preacher all over the world for last 34 years, Fr. James Manjackal MSFS P.O. 81 04 62 81902 MüNCHEN, GERMANY

Click here to visit my website: http://www.jmanjackal.net/
AUTHOR, RETREAT PREACHER.

 

From:
Fr. James D’Souza
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com Cc:
prabhu

Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 11:27 AM Subject: Reg. NCB

Hi Michael and Team! I am definitely willing and ready to join the signature campaign for the removal of the NCB. This is definitely a ploy of Satan in these end-times, using those on top, to lead astray the simple folks who are so gullible. May the good Lord bless you for your spirit of boldness. We need such anointed people like you in these days of darkness and utter confusion of our simple Catholic faith. Yours in Jesus and Mary Fr. James D’Souza GOA.
AUTHOR, RETREAT PREACHER.

 

From:
prem angelo
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: The New Community (Confusion) Bible?!

 

 

 

To The Catholic Church Authorities concerned

I am a youngster about to settle down in life.  I was disgusted to hear from my father and his good Catholic friend about the New Community Bible.  Why confuse young minds when they have accepted the regular conventional Bible they have been used to reading and hearing from.  The Catholic youth of today is not interested in the parallels the NCB is trying to confuse them with.  Is it absolutely necessary to thrust something which they have not asked for.  With the already existing corruptions and pollutions in various forms in the world why add more confusion and pollution to the young minds which are struggling to survive in their existing faiths.

Whose mischief is it any way trying to gain some mileage and short-lived recognition and reputation. Help the youth to grow strong in their faith rather than dilute their faith which is already being compromised with other worldly things. Let the Church authorities pull up their sleeves to fight tooth and nail to weed out those mischievous publishers who are keen on bringing out the NCB.  It is surely not God’s work.  Perhaps Satan is trying to make its entry into the True Catholic Church Built on the Rock.  But it will ultimately fail. Angelo Premnath CHENNAI

 

From:
nirmala_alphonse
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:16 PM Subject: The New Community Bible – The New Anti-Christ

To The Catholic Clergy in India

The New Anti-Christ is busy making its rounds in the form of the NCB.  I am a lover of Indian Culture in its right measure and in its true sense.  But I don’t approve of mixing up of Hindu culture (Indianisation) with the Holy Scripture – The Living Word of God and trying to bring out parallels from the books of other religions with the Holy Bible.  So far in no country in the world such a daring Satanic attempt has been made to equal the Holy Bible with the other religious books.  The whole world at large has accepted the Holy Bible and its undiluted contents in the form and style as presented to the human race for the past twenty centuries.

So why on earth some of these so called research scholars try and pose to present something different especially to this Indian continent alone.  Why not they try something to match the Chinese culture or any other country’ heritage and wait and see what sort of response they would get from such an attempt.

I would strongly request the Catholic Clergy of this beautiful country, India to make sure that such undesirable mischief makers don’t toy with the idea of giving a New
(Indianised) Corrupted Bible to the people of this nation who are all quite comfortable with the existing version so easily understood and acceptable to all from Cape Comerin to Kashmir ! Please act fast before the anti-christ has its sway over the unguarded. Nirmala CHENNAI
 

 

From:
louis joseph
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:59 PM

Subject: Bible with reference to Hindu scriptures making waves

Dear Brother Greetings to you and all the best in your ministry!

Please find below the article that appeared on the internet on the recently released “New Age Bible” (Community Bible) – it is available in Chennai – St Paul Publications. 

What do you feel about this new version of the Bible with references to the Indian Holy Books and sayings of India’s most revered people. Please let me know. Thanks & Regards Louis Joseph PONDICHERRY

 

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net

To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: sorry

Dear Michael, I want to desperately write to Fr. Tony Charanghat, responding to his article in the Newspaper but I don’t have his id. Yes I did hear about another article, published by him in a Pune newspaper called, “The DNA”. A muslim colleague of mine told me about the article. She, though a muslim, who came to know about this Bible only through this article, asked me, “Why Hinduism in your Bible?” I had no words to answer her, for speaking about it would mean speaking against our priests & Bishops. I just kept quiet & listened to what she had to say about how they respect their Kuran & though Jesus is mentioned in their Kuran, they would never preach what Jesus said through Kuran, although they respected Jesus. This disturbed me a lot yesterday. Any way we pray & wait for Jesus Himself to intervene. I know He is working through people like you. God Bless. Sorry once again. Love, Juliana D’Souza PUNE

 

From:
A BISHOP’S SECRETARY [NAME WITHHELD]
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:27 AM [EDITED]

Subject: Re: Thanks for your kind help

I do hope something can be done about the NCB. the common man is confused …. esp. since the NCB was given such publicity and of course released by the Cardinal himself. One wonders why precautions are not taken before hand.

 

From:
snehastudios.ca
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 7:39 AM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: FINAL CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST.PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Hello Prabhu I just want to add to all your efforts in making sure this NCB Bible does not come out at all. Jesus Christ is not the same as all the Hindu Gods nor are the hindu understanding of the creation of human beings similar. I support your efforts completely. I live in Canada and cannot do much. But if there is anything I could do from here please let me know. In Christ Jesus,

Maria Snehlata Lawrence Producer / Editor Sneha Studios www.snehastudios.com Ph: 604 – 767 – 2395 CANADA

 

 

 

 

From: antony vijayendran To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:22 AM

Subject: Request to ban the New Community Bible

They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness. – 2 Peter 2:15

The New Community Bible (NCB) echoes the act of Balaam, the false prophet. Most of the Christian Bible teachers here in India are performing the pernicious act of Balaam. By blending Hinduism and Christianity, the NCB has opened another new door for Religious Relativism, Which will not only nullify the evangelization. But also will corrupt the Faithful’s Catholic traditional understanding of the Scripture and their Faith. 

INFILTRATION:
Lenin said that he would infiltrate the Catholic clergy with Communists. And did that sucessfully.

Our Lady […] warned about the same on November 20, 1978: “Bishops, cardinals in Rome, a plan is set afoot against you. Many have entered from the socialist—the Union of Socialist Republic, Russia, have entered the Church to destroy you!”

The Warsaw Bishop Wielgus controversy is a recent evidence for the communists’ attack on the Holy Catholic Church.

In the name of ‘Historical Critical study’, the Modern Catholic theologians are promoting the infiltrated teaching and acting as secret agents of Communist as well as the agents of Satan.

Cardinal Ratzinger’s (Pope Benedict XVI) notable speech on the day of releasing the document prepared by the Pontifical Biblical Commission on the ‘Interpretation of the Bible in the Church’ also warned about the dangers and the limitations of the Historico-Critical study.

But the New Community Bible break all the rules of the Church. And it will corrupt the Catholic Faith. This is not only a Dogmatic Problem. Above that, this is a serious Pastoral Problem.

NCB is not a Catholic Bible, it is a Communist Bible. Hence I request the Church authorities to, stop distributing the New Community Bible among the Laity and to ban it immediately.

Antony Vijayendran MALLASSERRY, Kerala CATHOLIC APOLOGIST

 

From:
stella faria
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
prabhu michael ; terence dsouza

Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:24 PM Subject: NCB – Our comments.

Peace of Christ! 

We have cursorily gone through the note prepared by Metamorphose Ministries on the recently released NCB, as well as the NCB itself. We commend the excellent critique prepared by Metamorphose in such a short span of time.  The alertness shown in safeguarding the faith of the average Christian, especially the infants in the faith, is a great service to the Church.

Here are some of our observations: 

1. Commentary to the text of the nature described is unwarranted, keeping in mind that this edition was prepared for the use of “the Bible in daily prayer,” “Bible Study Groups,” “Small Christian Communities,” and “millions of believers.”

2. The inclusion of comments such as these (especially the parallels drawn from non-Christian scriptures / personalities) could dilute / distort the UNIQUENESS of the authentic Christian message in the eyes of the lay faithful.

3. If all these comments are to be resourceful, they could have been published in a separate booklet meant for inter-religious dialogue with scholars of other religions.

Apart from the foregoing, we take this opportunity to humbly suggest that our scholars and theologians undergo refresher courses in the faith in to enable them to be strongly rooted in the Person of Christ and in the official teachings of the Church (as laid down by the Magisterium).

These are just a few points which emerged from our brief reflection on the subject.

With great love for our Lord Jesus Christ and prayers for the Church,

Stella Faria and Terence D’Souza BANGALORE [TRAINED CATHOLIC EVANGELISTS]

From:
stella faria
To:
prabhu michael
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:24 AM

Subject: Fw: The Bible and Hindu Scriptures

The reasons given for publishing the NCB in its present form seem to justify the inclusion from other Scriptures in the name of inculturation. As the scholars admit, I do believe that a great deal of effort and time – 18 years, has gone into the production of this volume. While their good intentions are without doubt, the Holy Bible is the WORD OF God and as such prudence should be exercised when incorporating what we believe may appeal to, and attract the general reader. 

The caution in Rev: 22:18, (though pertaining to the prophecy given in the Book of Revelation – may well be applied to the whole Bible. Let us pray with St. Francis of Assissi “where there is error may we bring truth.” In Christo, Stella. 

From:
stella faria
To:
prabhu ; and two others Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:09 AM

Subject: Re: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Peace of Christ Michael! Thank you for your note on the NCB.  I’m saddened by what you say about the content. Is there an Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat? I’ll be happy to join the signature campaign Stella. 

 

From:
josef sebastian
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: My new email id

Hi mike, this is Joseph Sebastian, praise the lord……………..recieved your letters dated 14th and 31st July 2008.
Good work on NCB! Please note my new email id …. Joseph Sebastian PUNE

 

 

 

From:
alphonsebabu
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
Michael Prabhu

Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: NCB – UNCALLED FOR

It is very unfortunate that some of our well read Catholic Church hierarchy is carried away with a false notion of donning the garb of Indianisation of the Word of God in the Holy Bible. This illusion dilutes the Sacredness and the True Faith in the Works of God.

As they claim to add relevance to the Indian culture and scenario, how many Indians will appreciate their effort to do this?  Have the Indians asked for an Indianised Bible? Then, why thrust uncalled for and confusing elements on the Indians.  Imagine if every country with its unique culture and nationality, does the same.  I wonder if the Episcopal Magisterium is aware of such things and approves of such experiments.  Instead let those who want to experiment on such Indianisation of the Holy Bible make sincere efforts to carry the undiluted Word of God to every nook and corner of India and try to evangelise sincerely as was the desire of our present Pope expressed in one of his earlier speeches which drew so much of opposition from several corners of India. Alphonse Surendar CHENNAI [Ex-Salesian Seminarian]

 

From:
spirdaily@aol.com
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 4:01 AM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

We’re online at www.spiritdaily.com updated all day every day. Many thanks, appreciate hearing from you, we pray for everyone who writes, and please pray for us and please let your friends know about www.spiritdaily.com.
In Christ, Michael H. Brown USA [CATHOLIC APOLOGIST, CATHOLIC INTERNET MINISTRY]

From:
spirdaily@aol.com
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:03 AM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: A “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED IN INDIA.CALLFORWITHDRAWAL

Many thanks, appreciate hearing from you, we pray for everyone who writes, and please pray for us and please let your friends know about www.spiritdaily.com. In Christ, Michael H. Brown

 

From:
victorborde@hotmail.com
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:21 AM Subject: Some Thoughts

Hi Michael, Kindly find attached some things I’ve scribbled. Could be of help for you to present our case. I think we have to some how wake up the sensus fedei (sense of faith) in the masses. Only than we can hope for some remedial action.

In what way can the NCB harm the faith of the people? Or why is the NCB not acceptable to the Church?

  1. The NBC is a scholarly work, done by scholars for scholars, and not meant for the common man. A theologian has a license to doubt so that he may come up with better and new ideas to understand faith. A common man’s faith is based on the testimony he has received from his parents, grandparents and elders that everything written in the Bible is true and that one should not doubt. The common man is confused when he is told that this or that should “not be interpreted literally” (which he understands as “…is not true”) and which the NBC does so explicitly in a number of places and inexplicitly throughout the commentary.
  2. What the theologians give is a theological opinion; it is not to be mistaken as the teaching of the church. The NCB, by combining the word of God and scholarly opinion is confusing to a Catholic who, as it is, hardly knows what Scripture is, as to which of the two is more authentic, the traditional understanding of the Bible or the interpretation of the NCB which are contradictory at many points.
  3. The figure of Christ, which emerges from the commentary, is that Jesus is merely a human but a great soul, he did wonderful things in his life time so future generations exalted him and made up many stories (like that of miracles and infancy narratives) thus deifying him. Thus, as far as the common man reads, the commentary undermines the divinity of Christ, which he is not ready to accept.
  4. For the many Catholic faithful the NCB interpretation is not acceptable because:
    1. Under the guise of Indian culture the Bible is compared to the Hindu religion whose concept of Moksha or Salvation, Holiness, Soul, dignity of human body is very much different from that of Christian concepts.

      The commentary puts in doubt which concepts are right and which one should be accepted.

    2. Hindu religion believes in nature worship: sun, moon, air, trees etc., things which the Bible explicitly forbids. By referring to such practices e.g. the reference to gayatri mantra (NCB pg. 877) which is worship of the sun god, an ordinary Catholic reading the Bible reads it to believe that it is alright to do it as an Indian.
    3. Even if the editor says that “references to Indian scripture …does not imply…. that they are the same as biblical text,” anyone who reads the commentary will not fail to see that the commentary insists that one must believe that it is so.
    4. A common Catholic believes in the uniqueness of his faith and religion, in beliefs that no other religion has, whereas the NCB commentary tries to drive home a point that all religions are same. And whereas the teaching of the Church has been that other religion may have certain truths, the common Catholic is left in a lurch as to which one to believe.
    5. The NCB considers the Brahmin and Vedic culture as the culture of India whereas the majority of the Indian Christians are tribals and dalits and of other cultures. They are not only from non-Brahmin background but are anti-Brahmins, so why is the NCB trying to impose and insist this Brahminic culture upon the Christians, who will be basically the ones to read the Bible and who adhere to the Biblical position that is “there is neither Jew nor Greek, neither slave nor freeman…” (Galatians 3:28) which is far superior to the Vedic culture which has caused great suffering and wounds on human souls.

     

     

    1. The ancient Hindu law book, Manusmriti, has been a source and means of suppression, exploitation and immense suffering to certain very large class of people, was as a protest burned by Ambedkar. By referring positively to this law book in the NCB, is not the NCB advocating us to follow the code of this law book?
    2. Catholics in general, it is a known fact, hardly know the Bible and if one takes up the NCB in an attempt to know it, one is at a greater loss because one is expected to know more of Hindu scripture and traditions than that of his own Scripture.

(The report on the NCB by Mr. Michael Prabhu, gives you the page numbers and references for the above comments)

Fr. Victor Borde, Diocese of Poona [Priest of the Neo Catechumenal Way]

 

From:
RAPHAEL CLEAMENT
catholicfaithful@rediffmail.com
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:29 PM Subject: Ban the New Community Bible

It is not a Catholic Bible, it is a Hindutva bible. When the St. Pauls priests are referring our God with Hindu gods why don’t these people as well put the statues of Hindu gods in our churches. It is a SHAME SHAME SHAME. We demand that St. Pauls withdraw the Bible and we ask the Bishops to note our grave concern and take action. No more copies to be sold or printed further. We will take the matter to the national media. So we have organized a meeting with media at the Chennai Press Club to this effect on 13th August 2008.

C.J. Raphel, PRESIDENT, THE FEDERATION OF THE CATHOLIC FAITHFUL, CHENNAI 600001

 

From:
clementselvaraj@yahoo.co.in
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:03 PM

Subject: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

In the New Community you have compared Jacob with Arjuna. Will the Muslim accepts this? We can give you more examples like this which is again the Muslims and Hindus faith, not ours…

From:
catholic times
catholictimesnews@yahoo.co.in
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:17 PM

Subject: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

The NCB is going to create a big problem among Christian, Hindu and Muslim relationship. Please read St. Pauls letter to Galatians Chapter 1: 6-10

“I am surprised at you. In no time at all you are deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ, and are accepting another gospel. Actually, there is no ‘other gospel,’ but I say this because there are some people who are upsetting you and trying to change the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel that is different from the one we preached to you, may he be condemned to hell! We have said it before and now I say it again: if anyone preaches to you a gospel that is different from the one you accepted, may be condemned to hell!”

St. Paul says, “Actually, there is no ‘other Gospel’ but I say this because there are some people who are upsetting you and trying to change the gospel.”

Above mentioned ‘some people’ indicates St. Pauls Publications and other involved in writing the Community Bible (NCB).

The Vatican declared this year as St. Pauls year (from 28th of June 2008 to 29th of June 2009). Releasing the New Community Bible in St. Pauls year is completely against his (St. Pauls) teachings and is a great insult to him (St. Paul).

Clement Selvaraj, PUBLISHER AND EDITOR, THE CATHOLIC TIMES, SANTHOME, CHENNAI 600004

 

From:
daniel pardhe

To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:39 AM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: FINAL CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST.PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Hi Michael, I used to be active in teaching/ preaching at charismatic prayer groups in Pune long ago. As and when I visit India, I still do some teachings. I have moved to US for last 7 years now and will be staying here for good. I understand your frustration, but I don’t think your cause has much support from the seminary or ruling elite in the Catholic Church (there may be exceptions). I also hear rumours that the Indian Catholic Church wants to break from Rome. I also think some proud Hindus might support your cause, as they are justly offended by this Catholic effort of mixing their gods with the bible. The current pope seems to be active in cleaning up of the church worldwide. I think you will get support from Rome (I may be wrong), if you are able to galvanize a global awareness on this issue. ‘The gates of hell will not prevail against the body of Christ”.  May the LORD bless you. – God Bless, Daniel Pardhe USA

 

From:
joseph gonsalo

To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:23 AM

Subject: RE: UPDATE and ALERT: FINAL CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST. PAULS ‘NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Mic, This cannot be out of my mind at all. Its there all the time. I will forward these mails and start writing to people all over Bangalore first and make this known and take this up. My personal mail ID is …. Joseph Gonsalo BANGALORE

 

From:
aarti marianus
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:21 PM

Subject: withdrawal of NCB

Hi I am totally in agreement and in consent with my other bros and sis’s on the withdrawal of the NCB. Regards

Aarti Marianus CHENNAI

 

From: PRIEST. NAME WITHHELD ON REQUEST
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: New Community Bible

 

 

 

Dear Michael, I don’t know if you remember me.  I had come to your place last year in the month of August.  I was very happy to read your analysis on the New Community Bible (NCB). 

What is striking is that these Hindu mythologies or references have a spiritual power which is opposed to the Spirit of Christ. Hence this is creating a spiritual imbalance which is unknown to many people.  When we carry the NCB Bible, we are carrying with it Ram, Laxman, Krishna, etc. and these have power.  A baptised person will definitely be affected by these inimical forces.  The only thing we can do now is to conscientize people and pray for them. This is just my personal reflection, because I got at least 2 or 3 cases where the family was actually sick and once these bibles were kept away, things changed to normal. Thanks & God bless you.  Praying for you for this difficult task that you have undertaken.

 

From:
tesmin thommana
To:

prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:54 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: FINAL CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST.PAULS’NEWCOMMUNITY BIBLE

Prabu I also feel Bible should not be made like this. It should be in the Orginal Form. It act as base of Faith how could someone change it like that. There is only one God and Its None Other than Jesus Himself as told

John 14/6 :” I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” There may be many ways to God, but Jesus is the ONLY WAY to reach the Most High God. Tesmin Thomas

 

From:
vap christopher
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Boycott of NCB

I would like to start my comments very strongly on the NBC by quoting John 8:44 “You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” The NCB is clear indication of the work of Satan from within our Christian Community

According to 2 Corinthians 4:4, “God of this world has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ.” Satan’s agenda includes pushing a false philosophy onto the unbelieving world—a false philosophy that blinds the unbeliever from the truth of the Gospel. Satan’s philosophies are the fortresses in which people are imprisoned. (Sadly here the NBC through its compromise on our faith leaves the doors open to misinform, poison, influence and educate the lay, naive and uniformed innocent believers wrongly with a little truth). (Read Luke 4:1-13) What is interesting is that Satan himself quotes Scripture (Psalm 91:11, 12) while tempting Jesus; I am not surprised that he found his way into the bible.

Just this one reference from the bible gives a very clear indication to discern the origination / influences in the NCB commentary. Matthew 12:34 “You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good? For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart. (Clearly the hearts of the people giving the commentaries are compromised in much detail)

When such well read Christian doctors, priests, scholars, translators, editors, copy writers of the Christian faith have deliberate lied and manipulated the word of God, to call it a misinterpretation would be an insult to a lay person like me; because our faith is based on the simple and direct communication from God who Himself clearly presented the Commandments saying “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. Do not have any other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me…”

The NCB is inviting the wrath of God on the Church and it is a ‘crystal clear warning sign’ of the presence of Satan within our Church.

According to 2 Corinthians 4:4; “the God of this world has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ”. Satan’s agenda includes pushing a false philosophy onto the unbelieving world—a false philosophy that blinds the unbeliever from the truth of the Gospel. Satan’s philosophies are the fortresses in which people are imprisoned.

To be honest, I a lay person, did not know whether to laugh at the stupidity in the commentary or to cry because the evil in it hurt me; to see what the state of my Church is coming to gives me a felling that the end times are right around the corner. My hair stands up when I read some of the comments. I have taken close to a week to respond to the email carrying information about the compromise of our faith in the commentary of the NCB for which I feel guilty. The support to discontinue print & distribution / destroy every single copy / original script of the NCB is serious, of utmost importance and is urgent; and it is the responsibility of every single believer of our faith to stand up against production of the NCB.

Vimal Ajay CHENNAI

 

From:
savio remedios
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:51 PM

Subject: NCB Withdrawal

yes, this can be real dangerous for those catholics who doesnt have much knowledge of the scriptures and the commentary quotes can lead them to confusion… Savio Remedios

 

From:
Fr. Franklin D’Souza
To:

prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:38 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

 

 

 

 

Praise the Lord. I have not seen this edition. Surely we have to protest if it affects our Catholic faith. Thanks for your observations. I will contact you later. Thanks for sending this information.
“IF YOU DO NOT STAND FIRM IN FAITH YOU WILL NOT STAND AT ALL” Isaiah 7:9 Fr Franklin D’Souza, Retreat Preacher, Secretary to the Karnataka Regional Catholic Bishops’ Conference (KRCBC) Youth Commission

 

From: Fr. Fio Mascarenhas SJ
To:

prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:44 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST.PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, Bravo, I congratulate you on your zeal and indomitable spirit as a layman who is contributing to the life of the Church in India!

I can agree only partially with you. I think the introductions and commentaries on the various books are mostly very good from the Catholic scholarship point of view (Dei Verbum, etc). However I agree with you that the “inculturation” insertions are misleading and unfortunate and detract from the overall value of the edition. Love and prayers, Fr. Fio

Fr. Fio Mascarenhas SJ., AUTHOR, INTERNATIONAL RETREAT PREACHER, DIRECTOR, BIBLE INSTITUTE, MUMBAI, FORMER DIRECTOR, INTERNATIONAL CATHOLIC CHARISMATIC RENEWAL SERVICES, ROME

From:
prabhu

To:
Fr. Fio Mascarenhas SJ
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: THANK YOU, FATHER ….

Dear Fr Actually I DO AGREE with you completely. In fact in our analysis, we quoted from some of those good sections too. And I did mention probably twice in that report that there are some excellent commentaries. But as we agree, the issues that we have highlighted detract from the whole and render the NCB unfit for use. I doubt a single charismatic leader in India will ever use that book in study, ministering and preaching.

I pray that God continue to bless you with good health, wisdom and peace.

I sincerely thank you for your most encouraging response and your priestly blessings. Two Cardinals have responded that a committee has been formed to study the NCB commentaries. Pray for my ministry at Holy Mass. Love & Prayers, Mike

 

From:
Fr. Maxim Pereira To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Many thanks

Dear Michael, Many thanks for your enlightened observations regarding the blatant errors in the NCB.

God bless your efforts and good work. Fr. Maxim Pereira, OCD.,

EMMAUS Counselling Centre,
AVILA JYOTHI Carmelite Seminary, GOA

 

From:
anthony lobo

To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:57 AM

I have had the opportunity to quickly glance through the new Community Bible.  The first thing that struck me in the face was pictures of Mosques and Temples.  The Bible, the Word of God, is unadulterated, unalloyed with anything.  It is the revelation of God’s love.  We have many different translations of the Bible.  What has been done with the New Community Bible is:  it has been interpreted and this interpretation has been passed off as a translation.  This is not acceptable.  We in the Catholic Church already have the Jerusalem which is considered to be the most authentic translation.  The purpose of the translation is to reveal the Father’s love as genuinely and accurately as possible. Interpretations are available by the score.  The New Community Bible has become one more interpretation.  Do not make the gravest of errors, mistake it to be the genuine, authentic Word of God. I and my family would never consider keeping the NCB in our home.

Anthony and Christina Lobo and family of 6 MUMBAI
INTERNATIONAL RETREAT PREACHER, LEADERS OF CATHOLIC MINISTRIES OF INNER HEALING AND DELIVERANCE

 

From:
daisy mascarenhas
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:56 AM

Subject: NCB

Respected Sir, Please do the needful for the good of the church, as to protect the true meaning of the word of god. Thanks & Best Regards Daisy Mascarenhas

 

From:
sebastian thomas
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:51 AM

Subject: NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE!!
Dear Team, Any Bible that deviates from Church teaching even that means Indianisation of Bible needs to be abhorred & condemned. I strongly support the movement against the NCB & my prayers for their success.

Rgrds, Sebastian Thomas MANGALORE

 

From:
cmpaul53@gmail.com
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:34 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Mike, Thanks… I have not seen the BIBLE you are talking of… However, all the best in your efforts…

May the holy spirit grant you and colleagues… WISDOM. Fr. C. M. Paul SDB., WEST BENGAL

[Member to the Advisory Panel to the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC); Former editor, The Herald weekly, Kolkata; Former director of the ANS (International Salesian News Agency), Rome; Former President of the national Catholic Association for Radio, TV and Cinema (Unda/OCIC & Signis); Former Chairman, Indian Catholic Press Association]

 

 

 

From:
Fr. George Olivera
To:

prabhu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: thanks

Dear Mr. Prabhu. thanks for sending the update and alert: call for withdrawal of the new Community Bible.
I appreciate your in-depth analysis of the commentaries of the New Community Bible in Indian Context.  There was a parallel version of the same among Filipino Christian in Philippines, which was more orthodox and contextual for Church in Philippines. Now this Community Bible in the Indian context, cannot easily understood by the majority of Hindus and the majority of Indian Christians. A massive project of this sort must come from grass-root level, and not from the scholars from above.  As the Word of God addressed to the people of God, so too the commentaries must arise from the grass root levels, may be from the local churches, from the people of God.
Therefore Vox Populi principle must be followed to rectify the mistakes. thanks for the despatch. with every good wish

Fr. George Olivera, OFM Cap., MYSORE

 

From:
cyril d’mello
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:48 PM

Subject: Hai there Re: UPDATE and ALERT: FINAL CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Thanks for your mail. Just now I am doing my month retreat (Ignatian Spiritual Exercises) I finish my retreat on the 29 of July. I shall get back to you at the earliest possible after July 29th lovingly yours Fr. Cyril D’Mello, SJ.,

 

From:
korkosj@rediffmail.com
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:31 PM

May all beings be happy, May all people live in peace and in harmony. Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti. love,
Korko sj
[JESUIT PRIEST, ASHRAM FOUNDER AND YOGA PROTAGONIST. See report on Catholic Ashrams]

 

From:
SENIOR LAY PREACHER
To:

‘prabhu’
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:52 PM EDITED

Subject: RE: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Michael, Greetings! The news has greatly disturbed me. However since I don’t have a copy of the bible I cannot immediately respond. I intend to buy one and go through the notes to arrive at my own theological conclusions for or against it. If I do find the contents to be as disturbing as you have put it, you can be rest assured I will not sit twiddling my thumbs. Since Bishop … is our Bishop I will certainly take up the matter personally and discuss it with him after I have seen the contents of the NCB. Until then be assured of my prayers and support. God Bless

RETREAT PREACHER, LEADER OF CATHOLIC MINISTRY, MUMBAI

 

From:
luke lobo

To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:44 PM EDITED

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

…Good job Michael… Luke Lobo PUNE MINISTER OF THE WORD, LEADER OF CATHOLIC COMMUNITY

 

From:
anthony lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:30 AM EDITED

Subject: Re: UPDATE and LAST CALL: FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Am now going to respond on the id generated and pass the word around to all my e mail contacts. God Bless, Anthony

Anthony Lobo MUMBAI RETREAT PREACHER, LEADER OF CATHOLIC MINISTRY

 

From:
tamara martin

To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:50 AM

Subject: Re: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Dear Michael

sorry for not replying as I was not in town. Thank u for the information. I will get a copy but we should have a signature campaign. All bishops should ban the NCB with immediate effect. More in detail in a day. Continue to  do what is right

Tamara Martin HYDERABAD Regional Chairperson, National Catholic Charismatic Renewal Services

 

From:
ajith lobo
To:
prabhu
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:00 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and LAST CALL: FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Hi Michael, Please add me in the campaign and I would like to join in the fight for undiluted truth. Godbless n love..

Ajith Lobo SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA PREACHER OF THE WORD OF GOD

 

From:
rex barnabas
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: 2008-08-03, 11:10 A.M.: Opposition to the NCB version.

Dear Mike, I strongly oppose the inclusions of mythical references in the Bible to the extent that they affect the veracity and the truth of the Living Word.  My prayers are with you.  Yet, I would like to point out that the entire Shaivite references in the new Bible may be pointers to early Christian principles as Shaivism is only a product of Christianity… here, I would like to add that the Brahminical milieu is the one that really hurts most!!  After all, the New Age is nothing but Aryan thinking and influence on this beautiful world that God our Father created for all of us to live in – that too, in spite of the dreadful original sin committed by our first parents… only goes to show the boundless mercy and compassion that our Heavenly Father has for us all.

May our Abba Father guard us and protect all of Mankind and its progeny for the rest of the time that it exists on this earth!! God bless all your efforts. Your brother in Christ Jesus. Rex Barnabas CHENNAI

 

 

 

 

From: Fr. Joseph Aymanathil To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:09 AM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, Thank you very much for this useful information on the NCB. I have not gone through the Bible and so I do not know what is in it. I can guess that the Indianazation lobby would be wanting to carry on their agenda even through the Bible. Let us wait and see what the Church in India will do about it. with best wishes, fr. Jose

Dr. Fr. Joseph Aymanathil SDB., KOLKATA, DOCTOR IN CANON LAW, EDITOR, STREAMS OF LIVING WATER

From: Fr. Joseph Aymanathil

To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:56 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: BRO. JOHNSON SEQUEIRA: REMINDER 6 WEEKS AFTER YOUR TELEPHONE CALL

Dear Michael, Thanks for both the e-mails and the attachments. We are quite careful about the visit of the questionable type of preachers. The Arcbishop also did not give any permission to Bro. Johnson to preach in Calcutta…

Your initiatives regarding the New Community Bible are good and I am sure that appropriate action will be taken by the Bishops. with good wishes, fr. Jose

From: Fr. Joseph Aymanathil To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:59 AM Subject: Re: NCB / NEW AGE

Dear Michael, Fr. S.. is not here now. On Wednesday he will come and he will be able to read what you have written. I am sure that the Bishops will at least see that the next edition of the NCB will have some changes. Continue sending your information to different offices that have responsibility in this matter. I think that this time you will be vindicated. fr. Jose

 

From:
mark waterinckx
To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:42 PM

Subject: RE: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Michael, I have read the attachment. It sounds like the Dutch Bible after Vat. II. All modernist. Of course I will join your signature campaign against this dangerous book. You can mention my full name Pax et Bonum mark MARK WATERINCKX, BELGIUM www.stichtingvaak.nl
CATHOLIC APOLOGIST, CATHOLIC INTERNET MINISTRY

 

From:
antony mahendran
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
MICHEL PRABHU

Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:06 PM Subject: NCB Bible commentary – Endanger to Catholicism

Dear Bishops We request all of you to unite and act at this moment to rectify all the mistakes in the NCB Bible commentaries. NCB Bible commentary will definitely decline the faith of the lay Catholics. In Christ with Mary

Antony Mahendran BANGALORE LAY PREACHER, CATHOLIC APOLOGIST, CATHOLIC INTERNET MINISTRY

From:
antony mahendran
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:58 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and LAST CALL: FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Bro. Michael Be assured of my paryers for your wonderful work. God Sit on your Shoulders! Antony

 

From:
Dr. Dominic Dixon
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 12:47 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: A “NEW AGE” BIBLE. CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Mike, In continuation with your efforts, we could make an announcement on our Radio (www.MoreLoveRadio.com) about the New Age Bible. We beam into 40 Nations with over a million collective listeners. If you would like us to do that, pls send us a two para write that could be spoken over our Radio. We can do this for one week. In His Service,

Dom BANGALORE AUTHOR, INTERNET AND RADIO MINISTRY

From:
prabhu
To:
Dr. Dominic Dixon
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and ALERT: A “NEW AGE” BIBLE. CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Dom, Many thanks for your gracious offer. I declined similar suggestions from The Federation of Catholic Faithful and The Catholic Times, Chennai. What I suggested and they did was to download and use my article from the net as per details given in my covering letter and inside the article. Love, Mike

 

From:
Fr. Anselm Poovathani

To:

prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:32 PM

Subject: Greetings from Fr Anselm

Dear Mr Michael, Thank you for your e-mail of this evening. I have gone through it and I fully understand the confusion you feel at reading the commentary in the NCB. As the Bishops and the people concerned are studying the matter, I will wait for their decision in the matter. It is good that the matter is being studied and we shall wait for clear guidelines from those who have the right and the duty to give us guidelines in situations like this.

In the meantime let us pray that the Lord may enlighten all of us, those who lead and those who follow.

With all good wishes, Sincerely yours in the Lord, Fr Anselm Poovathani, SSP., MUMBAI,
EDITOR, PETRUS

[Priest of the Society of St Pauls that published the NCB]

 

From:
manoj sunny
To:
Prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:50 PM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Michael, Thank you. I am in Singapore now – we are doing 3 International trainings in Singapore and Bangkok. I will reach back on 24th and let me try to get an issue of this bible and respond to it after that. Beena returned home after the WYD in Sydney. Keeping fine at home. Praying for all your efforts, Founder, JESUS YOUTH, KOCHI

 

 

 

From:
blazie shetty

To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:27 PM Subject: The New Community Bible  
Thanx Michael for taking a firm stance on this issue. I was speaking to many verbally but I guess this is the best way you have chosen to do the needful. Don’t worry we are with you all the way in this. The Lord will bless your effort in this. It makes one wonder are we in the right place. Many priest have asked me why are so many Catholics leaving the church.  I am sure they know the answer but want to hear it from us. I guess this would let them know that God’s children are reading his Word and know what is the Truth. God Bless you and this mission you have taken Blazie Shetty MUMBAI

 

From:
fritz mascarenhas

To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:46 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and LAST CALL: FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, I have just returned after being away for nearly 6 weeks in USA and Canada and from the Int Youth Conference in Divine. I have gone thro your reminder. I have not seen this Bible as yet. Kindly send me the previous emails you mention in this reminder.
Thanks for all the labour of love that you pour in this important work. Your brother In Christ, Fritz

INTERNATIONAL PREACHER, EVANGELIZATION MINISTRY, DIRECTOR, INTERNATIONAL CATHOLIC PROGRAMME FOR EVANGELIZATION, BANGALORE

From:
fritz mascarenhas

To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:13 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and LAST CALL: FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, I have just gone through the material and I fully agree that most Catholics are not knowledgeable and rooted in the faith and drawing comparisons between the Bible and Hindu scriptures will lead us astray. I am glad you have brought it to the notice of Bishops who are guardians of the flock Your brother in Christ, Fritz

 

From: dsouza_ian
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:54 AM Subject: NCB Response

From: dsouza_ian
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:03 AM

Subject: RE: UPDATE and LAST CALL: FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Mike, Sorry for the delay in writing. I have only just gone through your research on the NCB for want of time earlier.  I think it is well done and your findings are shocking to say the least.  I am in strong agreement that we need to oppose this heretical attempt by the Society of St. Paul in spreading lies and treacherous deceit regarding the WOG and that too with the cognizance of the hierarchy. With warm regards, Ian D’Souza MUMBAI LAY PREACHER, YOUTH LEADER

 

From: judith cross
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:56 PM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Brother I am sorry I replied to your mail so late. Actually I checked my mailbox just today after a long time… I had read the news paper on 27th (Sunday) and I was so upset that Ramayan and Mahabharat are quoted in the Bible. The NCB was released in St. Mary’s Church, Secunderabad
too on 29th June. But I did not see the Bible. Today when I read your mail I was shocked that the Church today can go to such an extent to let Jesus down. Though I have not fully read the report, surely I condemn this wasteful effort of the Church leaders to make Jesus known to Indians. This is not needed at all.. The problem is that the people who claim to make Jesus known donot know Jesus themselves. Anyway may God bless them and change their hearts according to the promptings of the Spirit.

THIS IS THE NEWS THAT I READ IN DECCAN CHRONICLE (DAILY NEWS PAPER) IN HYDERABAD IN 27TH SUNDAY PAPER…

Maria Judith Cross SECUNDERABAD
Part Time Teaching Ministry at Catholic Retreat Centre

 

From:
Fr. Anthony Robins To:
michael Prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: NCBible

Dear Michael, Someone presented me with a copy of the NCB – I casually went through some portion since I am very hard pressed for time. I have extracted what the advocates of this Bible say and also the statement of our cardinal.
From all appearances it is not meant for the average Catholic who wants to ‘Pray with the Bible’ – an activity of the soul. But it is for a person who wants to ‘Research the Bible against other ‘scriptures’ with his head.
I hope that all is well with you and family. Bye and God Bless Fr. Anthony Robins MUMBAI
AUTHOR

 

From:
Dr D Jayanand

To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:09 AM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear bro Prabhu, Greetings to you in Jesus name. Thank you for your email, for the past one month I am in the Holy Land the Land of Jesus preaching about Jesus to His own people I will be back to … by 8th of August

I will continue to pray for you, your family and for all your needs. “If Jesus is for us, nobody can stand against us” (Rom. 8:31) You too uphold me, my ministry in your prayers. Thanking you,

Your Bro. in Christ,
Dr D Jayanand BANGALORE
CATHOLIC RETREAT PREACHER, INTERNATIONAL MINISTRY

 

From:
shalom louis
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com;

Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:31 AM

Dear brethren in Christ, We are in full support of your mission to continue propagating that there can be no compromise on the Gospel values. And yes please do sign us – Alex and Joyce
in the signature campaign against this book. God Bless

Alex & Joyce Louis, KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA
INTERNATIONALLY TRAINED CATHOLIC EVANGELISTS

 

 

From:
Fr
Michael Goveas
<mwgoveas@gmail.com> To:
richard mascarenhas

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: Re: NCB

My dear Richard,

Had you and that Juliana whoever she is had done some Bible Course, many of your so called objections or difficulties would have been answered. That the Bible contains stories and myths and legends is not something new. About fifty yrs ago when I was studying the Bible in the seminary, we had already learnt about this. The stories do not matter, but the truth does: what truth does those stories have to tell. Next time you come here, come and sit down with me and I will give you some insight into the Bible. Regarding Krishna etc all this is in the commentary and not in the Bible texts, so you needn’t worry about. The commentary only shows that there is also truth contained in the scriptures of other religions and we have to respect it. A simple example, long before Jesus was born, Buddha already spoke about love, compassion and forgiveness etc. So the Cath.Ch accepts whatever is good, and true and noble in other faiths as well. The commentary is only drawing our attention parallel passages in other scriptures and that should make us glad. Likewise if the gayatri mantra is mentioned, our Bible is not teaching us to say the mantra or to worship the sun-god at all! I hope these few answers satisfy you and if and when you come down or you are still here, I shall be glad to sit down with you and answer all your difficulties. With warm regards and love to all.
Fr. Michael [St. Michael’s Church, Mahim, Mumbai]

From:
richard mascarenhas
To:
mwgoveas@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: NCB

Dear Fr. Michael

Praise the Lord.  I was sure you would reply back as you had said and was glad that I got a reply.  I would have certainly liked to come and discuss this with you one to one. Father I have reached Muscat on the 20 July.   

With regards to your response, I would like to discuss a few points which you have mentioned.   

Today the names of Hindu books and gods have found a place in the Commentary in the Bible, tomorrow we will find the text that the commentaries are referring to, to make it easier for people to read and understand the parallels drawn.  Today the words ‘gayatri mantra’ and ‘sun god’ are just mentioned in the commentaries, tomorrow we will find the whole of the extract printed, and these will slowly then creep into the text.   By drawing parallels with these books, the church is drawing parallel of these mythical and pagan
books with the Bible.  We have heard at all times being told that the Bible is the inspired Word of God, inspired not by men but by the Holy Spirit.  We now begin to understand that at that time when the Bible was put together (leaving many books that were considered not to be inspired) the inspiration was not just enough or right.  That the books that were in existence then were ignored by the Holy Spirit and now needs to be included and error recitified.  All of a sudden the Church started to see the truths about the Pagan religions and the Surya Namskar to Sun god found a parallel to the Church teaching of worship of the Son of God.  The Creator = to the created.  All things created speak for the Creator and therefore worthy to be worshipped.  Which means the Church taught an error so far and now needs to be corrected by drawing parallels to those that were considered total pagan.  We were told not to bow our head in front of other gods, and we find our Bishop lighting a candle (diya) in front of the Hindu diety – Ganesha in public .  I must then agree that the Bible is nothing but all myths and stories, if much of Exodus is a myth, Genesis a story,  Adam & Eve did not eat of the forbidden fruit in disobedience but committed a sexual sin etc…. I think we are right now in saying that the Bible is full of myths and stories.  If Moses’ appearance and leading the people of Israel out of Egypt to the Promised Land, from Slavery to Freedom is a myth then, drawing similar parallels we can say, Christ’s coming and redeeming mankind from bondage of Sin to Eternal life is also nothing but a myth.  And why was the Church silent all this time and did not reveal all the myths of the Bible to the faithful in the years of faith formation that they have had?  While the books of other faiths, though not claimed to be inspired (in the sense the Cath. Ch says) are safeguarded by not letting any corruption come to it with change of text, the Cath Ch which has all along claimed the Bible to be the Inspired Word of God are doing everything possible to corrupt it with borrowing things from other uninspired books.   Has the “Father of lies”
recruited
his agents in the Church?
My friend who has done a study of the NCB with whom I have had discussions, wishes to write to you personally.  I have given your email-id to him that he may have a discussion with you on this.  His name is Michael Prabhu and his email Id is <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net>.

Dear Father, this entire development makes me feel hurt, though it has not hurt my faith.  But to get to know how manipulative man can be in his quest to achieve something is what I now understand in this latest development.  He would not spare even the Word of God to function on its own.  Are we witnesses to the very words of the Bible in Mat 7:15 and Acts 20:29? 

Reading through these commentaries, I am sure if my wife says that following Krishna, Brahma, Vishnu, Narayan, Ganesha, reciting the om, and saying the gayatri mantra or worshipping the sun is not wrong at all.  There is nothing very unique of Christ, after all those that came much earlier (did they?)  than Christ have also spoken of love, compassion and mercy.  And even if we are Christians, we can after all recite the gayatri mantra and worship the sun god (god of light) following the ritual of pouring water (flowing waters of life) from a copper vessel (Chalice) and recite the gayatri mantra (Psalm
51).  What a marvellous way of indianisation and inculturisation that would be, staying together in a faith that is all inclusive, the best of everything.
 

We can look forward in the near future for a change in the “Profession of Faith” the “I Believe”.

I eagerly await to hear from you father.  You have known me from many years right from my school days.  I never thought that a day would come when we would be drawn into a discussion such as this.  But I am glad you are there.   

With Love in Christ Richard Mascarenhas OMAN

 

 

 

From:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
To:
mwgoveas@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:34 PM

Subject: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Father Michael [Goveas],

While I have no objection to your having your liberal and modernist views on our Faith, interpretation of Scripture, etc.. etc., [I must say that your arguments are the very ones that have led the Church into religious pluralism and syncretism. If the NCB quotes error from error and does not call it clearly as error, it is promoting error insidiously] about which I can do little except pray and ask our God to have mercy on the priests of His Indian Church, there are some things in your letter that surprise me very much.

The first is your most condescending and dismissive words about that Juliana whoever she is. She could be my wife, mother, sister or daughter. Even if that were not so, how could you as an anointed priest talk that way about one sheep of your flock of which you are the shepherd or pastor? If you, with your “experience” of fifty years in supposedly comforting people can write that way, would I be wrong in thinking that you are autocratic and arrogant like most Indian priests today? Do I err in supposing that you think that the laity — especially a woman — knows little or nothing?

You must be aware that Canon Law gives every right to the laity to lawfully question the ecclesial authorities.

Only Juliana may tell you what she has studied, but I can assure you, Father Michael, that one does not have to do some Bible Course to understand error when one sees it. One needs wisdom, prudence and the discernment given by the Holy Spirit. We are like the Christians of Berea who carefully examined against Scripture [and Church teaching] the words of St Paul [Acts 17:11]. 

Father, I have done that some Bible Course. In all humility, I have probably done serious Bible “colleges” and courses under more priests –Jesuit, Vincentian, Missionaries of St Francis de Sales, Redemptorist, etc. — than any other lay person in India. I have attended Schools of Evangelisation as well as Counseling Training at two Catholic centers. I have studied for an MA in Christian Studies as well as one in Philosophy and Religion. My thesis was on the Book of Revelation. I am in full time ministry for 14 years. I am a Catholic apologist, a writer and speaker for 27 years.

So am I now qualified to speak and will the knowledge gained by me from my some Bible Courses receive due respect?

Juliana did not present a theological dissertation. It was a simple lay persons cry against error and for correction to be made.

I would request you to now read MY presentation [attached here] which has been sent to all nearly 225 CBCI and CCBI Bishops [including Emeritus] and Commissions and to which 47 have responded as of now, with NOT EVEN ONE condemnation or criticism. In fact two Cardinals have written that a Committee of two Bishops has been appointed to study the NCB issue. The report was also tabled at the Western Region Bishops’ meet at Nagpur July 23 to 26. Kindly go through it. You could even visit my website and read what yoga, surya namsakar, gayatri mantra and Om really are, not what they teach you in the seminary. Maybe you might change your mind and even join us. Michael Prabhu

 

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:22 AM

Subject: my response to Fr. Michael [Goveas]

Dear Michael, I have sent an email to Fr. Michael explaining what is my qualification in the sight of the almighty & am forwarding a copy (attachment) to you & another copy to response2communitybible@gmail.com.I only hope the id of Fr. Michael is correct that is mwgoveas@gmail.com.

You are in my prayer everyday. God will surely bless your efforts. I was happy to know that the cardinals have taken interest in this matter. May God be praised. Love & God Bless, Juliana D’Souza PUNE

Dear Fr. Michael,

Let me confess that I am a very very ordinary person & a simple servant of God. I surely have done no Philosophy & have had no formal education in the Bible. I am surely a fool in front of the vast knowledge that you might be having of not only the Bible, But also the deep knowledge that you have of Gita, Mahabharata, Upanishadas…. etc. But I am sure with all this knowledge that you might be having you are yet a small creature in front of The Almighty & in front of all the knowledge & Wisdom that He possesses. The only thing that I have is a deep and sincere love for my God and for my faith. I sincerely believe that The Bible is the Word of God & that every dot and dash in this Book is correct. I believe that God speaks to me everyday when I read His Word. He has a message for me everyday & He answers all my doubts & queries.

I have been brought up in a home where Jesus was the centre of our lives. He was the Alpha & the Omega. As a school going child I remember we would start our day at 6am with morning prayer & end the day at 7.30-8 with night prayer, not forgetting the afternoon & evening prayer. This continued till 1995 Dec. that’s when I got married. I am highly in debt to my parents who have given me not just the knowledge of Jesus, But Jesus Himself.

Presently I am happily married with two little angels & I try to give them what I received from my parents. Being brought up in a small village, called Badnera, I have always had non Christian friends. Presently I am teaching in a J.M. school in Pune. I am also a catechist in my parish. I still have non-christian children in my school & lots of good non catholic friends. I also have a nonchristian Bhabi & a Brother-in-law to be very soon. I have always respected their religions & their sentiments. I do believe that all religions have not just some, but a lot of elements of truth. I also believe that all religions teach us about Love & Peace. But I also believe that Jesus is the Prince of Peace .I believe that Jesus is Love. He is THE WAY, THE TRUTH & THE LIFE, not a way a truth and a life. While they have half truth, we have The TRUTH. I do pray that one day they may understand this great truth that is found only in Christianity & in The Holy Bible.
Instead of comparing what is similar & parallel in theirs & our religion I show & teach what is different in ours & their religion, in our God & their gods. I believe that My God is the One & Only True LIVING & LOVING God.

 

 

And only He has the power to forgive our sins as He Is The Only God who took up our sins & Died for us. He alone can give us Life & Salvation. I preach this through my life, my living & by sharing my experiences with my friends & students. As I Feel Evangelising is the Obligation of every Catholic.

I am truly upset to find the teachings of other religions in our Holy Book (NCB).
The Bible is not an inter-religious book. When we know the truth & have the truth, where is the need to look out for truths in other religions & even to draw parallels & similarities. They know half truth, we know the full truth.

My concern is the faith of the future Church & the younger generation, who might read the NCB & believing in every dot & dash & the commentary as it comes from the Scholars, who feel they can never be wrong, will feel that truth is found in all religions & in temples & Mosques…etc (pictures in the NCB) as it is very much a part of the Bible. Where is the need then to Evangelize? Who will be able to stop them from worshipping in the temples & the Mosques? Isn’t this a compromise? Are we scared of the Hindus and are wanting to please them? Are we not scared of the Punishments & Plagues that can come upon all those who try to change or add anything that is in the Bible? Rev.22: 18, 19. Have not these scholars destroyed the sanctity of the Bible with inter-religious commentary & the semi clad pictures? (Flight into Egypt). Do you think St. Joseph & Mother Mary who are the symbols of Purity & Chastity will feel proud of seeing this deterioration of their images? Who has given them this right? Fr.Tony Charanghat said in the Pune Mirror, 11th July, “We cannot communicate unless we communicate in the culture of the people”, so why doesn’t he wear a Dhoti & go around without a kurta?

I had sent my responses to all the three news papers where Fr.Tony Charanghat had advertised his NCB. Unfortunately it was not published, He says, “no one is up in arms against this Bible which is a good sign.” (Mumbai Age 19th July). Let me tell you there are many like me & with me who are only trying to solve this matter internally within the church for it will be a shame if the protest is taken to the streets, but if necessary that will be the ultimate solution. He may be able to fool the people by publishing articles such as, “Vatican Banks on Sari Clad Virgin Mary” (Sakaal times, Sun 27th July), But he cannot fool God. For it is the Duty of the priests to safeguard whatever is Holy in Our religion. Malachi 2:7, 8. “It is the Duty of priests to teach the true knowledge of God. People should go to them to learn my will, because they are the messengers of the Lord Almighty. But now you priests have turned away from the right path. Your teachings has led many to do wrong.”

This NCB may make sense to the scholars, but surely not for us, lay people. This book definitely cannot be called The Bible & can surely not be recommended as a substitute for a Bible. If the Lay people have any right, let me represent them & the future faith of our church, or else you will see our church crumbling down in front of your eyes & you all who promote this Bible will be responsible for shaking the very foundation of the church, The Word Of God, The Bible.

In Jesus’ name,
Juliana D’Souza PUNE

 

From:
pmathias14@optusnet.com.au
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:32 AM Subject: New Age Bible & Other Indian New Age Stuff

To The Bishop of Pune 

I reside in Australia and I am concerned regarding the New Age Stuff going on in India especially the New Age Bible that is being released by St Paul’s Publication. I would like to lend my signature in getting this Bible removed as soon as possible because it is scandalous and misleads and confuses the general catholic population. Thanks you

Pamela Mathias SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA.
INTERNATIONALLY TRAINED CATHOLIC COUNSELOR

 

From:
bernard ross
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:09 PM

Subject: RE: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Micheal, Thanks for the eye opener, with you in this, we pray to be led in the spirit to move against this effectively,
God bless, Bernard Ross CHENNAI. COUNSELOR

 

From:
shayne barretto
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: Fwd: New Community Bible

FYI Best Regards, Shayne # +91 9823025250

From:
shayne barretto
Date: Jul 22, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: New Community Bible

To:
valdsouz@vsnl.com
[This letter is addressed to Most Rev. Valerian D’Souza, Bishop of Poona]
Dear Bishop Valerian,

I am greatly disturbed by the New Community Bible. The commentary is highly debatable and contentious.

I am shocked by the stand or the lack of it taken by you. You have sat on the fence with the release of your statement – something that has come as a shock to me and my fellow youth. You being in a position of authority have failed to take action. The Lord stamped his authority whenever the Pharisees questioned it. But you haven’t taken a cue.

This Bible is aimed at the youth, apparently!

Is it really??? It gives a distorted image of Christ and Christianity. Now the already misled youth are even more confused as to who the real God is? If you and the priests of the Catholic Church direct them otherwise – then there is no hope for Christianity in India.

We often complain why Protestants target Catholics and lead them to their churches? Now you have vindicated their stand.

I am in talks with other members of the Church and we are up in arms against this Bible (NCB) and the sale of it in various book stores. Best Regards, Shayne Barretto PUNE # +91 9823025250

 

 

 

 

From: jude pereira
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: A NEW AGE BIBLE

Dear Michael, I went through your analysis of the NCB and agree with you on the same. It’s a Blessing to have people like you working to bring about the original church teachings to the commoner. Keep up the Good Work. Always in our prayers. 

Looking forward to meeting you in person. Regards,

Jude Pereira PUNE
Chairperson, Regional Service Team, National Catholic Charismatic Renewal Services

 

From:
jdo svd
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:13 AM Subject: What deceit!

I just cant believe this!………..and that too from St Pauls Publications. It’s astounding as to the inroads being made by satan and that too deceiving the very elect! Anyhow lets pray that we be protected against such heresies. Joseph D’Silva

 

From:
carmen dsilva
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: NCB

Dear Sir, I have read your report regarding the new Bible meant for India and would like to let you know I support your cause and wholeheartedly would like to join your signature campaign. Carmen D’Silva

 

From:
marino restrepo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:14 AM

Subject: RE: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Michael: If you can send me the e-mail or some contact of those people that printed that new age Bible, I’ll love to write to them my views on that. It is an absolute disgrace that the Church allows some thing like this to happen. We have to protest, no doubt about it. Blessings in Jesus and Mary, Marino Restrepo, Pilgrims of Love, LOS ANGELES, USA www.marinorestrepo.com
INTERNATIONAL RETREAT PREACHER

From:
marino restrepo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:46 PM

Dear Michael: I reside in Los Angeles, California but I travel all over the world within the Catholic Church. Part of my apostolate is to guard the sacred traditions of our faith. That is the reason why I’m always alert to the kind of mission you are engaged with. You can always count with me.
I’m please to team up with my fellow Eucharistic soldiers of my Church where ever they may be fighting the good fight of the Gospel. Blessings in Jesus and Mary, Marino Restrepo, Pilgrims of Love
www.marinorestrepo.com

 

From:
edward wilson
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc:
bpsoosa@md4.vsnl.net.in

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:01 PM Subject: CONDEMN

Galatians 1:7 “Actually, there is no “other gospel,” but I say this because there are some people who are upsetting you and trying to change the gospel of Christ.” I STRONGLY CONDEMN THE NCB- Edward Wilson CHENNAI

 

From:
lchristudhas
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:41 PM Subject: NCB-FAITH IN DANGER

Praise the Lord

           ” Actually, there is no “other gospel,” but I say this because there are some people who are upsetting you and trying to change the gospel of Christ.” (Galatians 1:7)

              The word of God is our daily bread for our spiritual life or for eternal life.

              But now the Bible is adulterated and poisoned in the name of inculturisation and is readily packed with a brand name ‘ New Community Bible? ‘And is ready for sale at all leading Catholic book stalls through out India.

The Bible says in John 8:44-45

              “You are the children of your father, the devil, and you want to follow your father’s desires. From the very beginning he was a murderer and has never been on the side of truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is only doing what is natural to him, because he is a liar and the father of all lies. But I tell the truth, and that is why you do not believe me.”  

               Devil has entered into the Society of St.Paul’s and he has chosen ‘some people’ for his ‘mission’ to be fulfilled to fight against the church of Living God..

The Bible says in 2 Thessalonians 2:3

               “Do not let any one deceive you in any way. For the Day will not come until the final Rebellion takes place and the Wicked One appears who is destined for hell.

                Simply saying ‘New Community Bible’ is the result of the hard efforts of ‘Anti-Christ Group’ formed to eradicate the faith of the Christians. It is not a Bible but a ‘Textbook of Blasphemy’.

St.Paul clearly says in Galatians 1:8-9

                “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel that is different from the one we preached to you, may he be condemned to hell! We have said it before, and now I say it again: if anyone preaches to you a gospel that is different from the one you accepted, may he be condemned to hell!

                 I strongly condemn the ‘ New Community Bible? ‘From the bottom of my heart, with a painful heart and with a burden in my heart. The ‘ New Community Bible?’ must be banned immediately otherwise the Church will have to pay the price. Glory be to our Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. In Christ, L. Christudhas CHENNAI

 

 

 

From:
amdmello

To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:37 PM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Where our so called “reformists” are landing our beloved religion? May God enlighten their minds we pray

Ambrose D’Mello SAUDI ARABIA

 

From:
alwyn fernandes
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
Michael Prabhu

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Opposition to the New Community Bible

Yes I and my family would like to join a signature campaign against this. Regards, Alwyn Fernandes VASAI

 

From:
erikagibello
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:39 PM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Michael, I just wanted to write to you when I received your commentary on this “new Bible” from Anthony Arambur.

It is so sad. Hinduism is like a jungle weed, suffocating by embracing and making it its own.
So they also try to do this with Christianity, but the victory is already won by Jesus on the Cross, it is His love which cannot be faked or defeated, in the end the Church will stand and go through the biggest persecution on earth. You did great work by studying this edition, so sad that it came out at St Paul’s Press in the year of St Paul. We have to request his [St Paul’s] intercession. Love to you and family, Hope all is well in Christ, Erika Gibello LONDON

From:
erikagibello
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:45 AM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and LAST CALL: FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, first of all we are praying for your protection, as you are stepping out into the limelight of the enemy and you are doing well not only doing so, but as I can see from the responses. So far I have thought this was an “Indian matter” and no-one in the West would buy such a Bible. Tell me which  Bishop ordered the Bible not to be sold in St Paul’s book shops and I see if I could find a contact to them  to push them further to communicate to the POPE. I myself will try to communicate this to the Pope, via a friend. I am not sure if it will be successful, but I definitely will inform the Secretariate for Interreligious Dialogue. Also when teaching in Rome next year I will not forget to bring this matter to attention of a few. Cardinal Lourduswamy might be the right person. He is very upright Catholic the opposite of his brother [Father] Amalorpavadass, who is long time dead, who pushed forward “inculturation”, very often in extreme form.
Also the Superior of St Paul in Rome might be the person to address this matter, as it is a long time that I observed those Book shop selling the wrong stuff (esoteric).
I will pray and think how we can stop this NCB. Who ever did this damage does not understand that evagelisation will not be by Hinduising the Christian Tradition as the ones who got converted often tell you that they liked the COMPLETE OTHER to their own religion. Anyway lets not loose time. Love in Christ to all of you, Erika

INTERNATIONAL RETREAT PREACHER and SECRETARY, INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF EXORCISTS, SECRETARY, INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF DELIVERANCE

From:
erikagibello
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 5:59 AM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and LAST CALL: FOR YOUR RESPONSETOWITHDRAWALOFTHENEWCOMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, I have sent a letter to Bp Valerian, as I met him for my work nearly thirty years ago. I asked for his advice how to proceed and indicated that I have modest contacts in Rome.  I need a sample of this book to be able to forward it to Our Holy Father. love Erika

 

From:
princymanoj
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: The “New Age Bible”

I am interested in the signature campaign. Princy Justin

 

From:
valerie godinho
To:
prabhu
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Hi Michael, PRAISE THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST!

Thanks for the information and the email. Yes I would like to add my name to the signature campaign for the NCB BIBLE. You can add my name.
Valerie Godinho GOA

 

From:
alex_joseph
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Withdrawal of the NCB

Hi, I would like to join this initiative demanding the withdrawal of New Community Bible to all Bishops of India. I would be pleased to take part in the signature campaign also. Kindly add this email id to your mailing list as well. 
FYI: I got in touch with this through my friend Sunsun Jose who is an active member of the Jesus Youth movement. I am also part of the Saturday Youth Night Vigil, Bangalore: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nightvigil/

Thanks & Regards, Alex Joseph BANGALORE

 

From:
metstellus
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: New Age Bible

 

 

Dear friends It is indeed a sad day when the holy word of God has been reduced to the level of myths and legends. I would like to add my voice to support your action in removing this Bible. My dear friend, Michael Prabhu sent me an e-mail regarding this issue and without any delay I am writing to you to say that I am willing to sign in the campaign. Just let me know!! Metilda Stellus KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA

 

From:
anand naidu
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Please enlist me in this campaign against NCB

Hi Michael, Please enlist me in this campaign against NCB
Diluting biblical principles in our lives is taking people away from Christ leave alone diluting Heavenly Father’s Eternal Word in print With my prayerful support God Bless Anand Naidu BANGALORE RETREAT PREACHER

 

From:
anuradha rebello
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:29 AM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear brother Micheal Thank you for sharing this insight into this new Bible. In fact I just went through this Bible very casually where it was being sold for a discounted price at our cathedral, and I did notice few references to Sanskrit words not realising the seriousness of the content.

I would wholeheartedly support your move and be part of the signature campaign against the book. In prayer with you

Anuradha Rebello BANGALORE [CONVERTED FROM HINDUISM]

 

From:
thomas_george
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:01 AM

Subject: RE: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Michael, thanks so much 4 the mail. Right now I am in Kerala on vacation. Will be returning tomorrow to Lovedale. Am using my mobile to respond to ur mail. I cudnt download the attchment as my cell has no such facility.
After hvg read ur mail, let me tell you that im shocked at wht our theologians hav dne. Pls take this mail as my assent to the signature campaign n pls include my name as well. Will mail you and the team in dtail upon my arrival at lovedale.

Thanks so much. Thomas

From:
thomas_george
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: NCB

Dear Sirs, This is to place on record that you may add me along for the signature campaign against the NCB. Please feel free to tell me if there is anything else that I should do. Thank you
Thomas George, Master, The Lawrence School, Lovedale, NILGIRIS

 

From:
jyotsna paul
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:28 PM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Mike, I will need to take a look at this Bible before signing up. Hope to do so soon. Thank you for all the wonderful work that you are doing. Jyotsna Paul NEW DELHI CATHOLIC FULL TIME MINISTRY

 

From:
jolly jacob To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Dear Mike, Praise the Lord,

I recollect having noticed the billboards of its publishing. But after reading the reports I have only one prayer. Lord Have mercy on all of us, especially the Church in India. May the Spirit of the Lord give all of us the wisdom and discernment to understand what is the Real Truth. God bless you and your ministry for all that crusading for His Kingdom and His glory. With love and prayers Jolly Jacob NEW DELHI INTERCESSION MINISTRY – DELHI CRUSADERS

 

From:
anil alexander
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:43 PM

Subject: Fwd: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Michael – Please include me in your distribution list. My friend Arulnathan forwarded this email to me. Regards Joseph

 

From: joju cc
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com ; prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Thanks for ur ministry that make us think about the evil that the new age does for the church.

May the Spirit of God help the Bishops think of it and do some actions to safe guard the Church on Earth.

Trusting God, With love and prayers, Joju NEW DELHI CATHOLIC PRO-LIFE MINISTRY

 

From:
rowena alvares
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: Response: against new age bible

Hi there, This is all such a shame. I am very much interested in joining a signature campaign against this book and hope it’ll get banned for all eternity! This effort will most definitely be in my prayers, God bless you all Regards

Rowena Alvares KUWAIT

 

 

 

 

From: blyton.pinto
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
prabhu

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:25 PM Subject:
Pls get rid of this “BIBLE”

Regards, Blyton R Pinto Enterprise Solutions, Emirates Group-IT 009714-2133356

From:
blyton.pinto
To:
prabhu ; sonia pinto
Cc:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:14 AM Subject: RE: Pls get rid of this “BIBLE”

Dear Michael, Would be glad to take part in the signature campaign. God bless. Regards,

Sonia &
Blyton Pinto DUBAI, UAE

 

From:
esther chatterton
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com  Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

I strongly object to this NCB Publication. Regards Esther Chatterton KOLKATA WRITING MINISTRY

 

From:
mjudedaniel
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: FW: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN…

Hi Michael Prabhu, I completely agree with your view about the NCB. I would like to be a part of the signature campaign. Please include me in your mailing list. God Bless. Thanks Jude Daniel

 

From:
gvictor
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:36 AM Subject: FW: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF…

Hello Everyone Request all to read this and respond positively to the proposed signature campaign. Thank you! G

From:
gvictor
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: “NEW AGE” BIBLE RELEASED BY SOCIETY OF ST. PAUL IN INDIA

Hello I would like to support your initiative against this ‘bible.’ Pls include me in your signature campaign. Thanks

Gangai Victor CHENNAI MUSIC MINISTRY

 

From:
sarat fernandes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 1:31 PM

Hi Mike Yes regrettably it is atrocious. Thanks for bringing it to notice. Love in Jesus Sarat Fernandes LONDON

 

From:
D’souzas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: NEW COMMUNITY “BIBLE” EDITED

Hi Mike Thanks for your email.  […]

I think most Catholics should be aware that unless it carries the imprimatur of the Church authorities they should not be using any bible for their spiritual reflection. In any case, I am not sure how many read the bible these days and observe it in their lives. They have a lot more time for new age than to earnestly seek and experience God’s love in their lives so that transformed by this love they can transform lives and relationships. God bless you in abundance!

Best wishes
Arnold D’Souza CANADA

 

From:
dawson gomes

To:
Miscellaneous Intercessors
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: Intercession

Dear Brother & Sister Intercessors, Praise Jesus…………
As you’ll remember to pray for the Church in Mumbai remember two groups of priest the Activist that only have a political agenda without the Gospel, that we can attain things through political motivated ideas (human rights value system) – specially when we Christians are targeted in this city. Also pray for the group that spear heads this movement it is called Bombay Catholic Sabha, President Mr. Dolphy D’souza… This group does a lot politically (fighting just causes) for the Church of Bombay but pray that each of the members have a personal experience of Jesus. They have quite a clot in our city pray that their ideas would be set right by our bishops and not take root in the heart of the church.
For many priest and nuns involved in new age practices of yoga, vipasanna, reiki healings etc (one of the pioneering priest is Fr. Joe Pereira, Diocesan Priest). For a new community Bible that was released in this Jubilee of St Paul, which looks more like a new age bible. Details enclosed in file.
This information is given by Michael Prabhu who has a ministry exposing the evils of new age in the church.
…God Bless Dawson Gomes MUMBAI

From:
dawson gomes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:37 PM

Subject: Re: UPDATE and LAST CALL: FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Mike Praise Jesus I believe if you could send a detailed letter exposing this NCB to Cardinal Ivan Dais it would be good as he is the cardinal heading evangelisation in Rome. I pray that he would see how this bible distorts the work of evangelisation. God Bless Dawson Sanctuary Intercessors – Fellowship of the Burning Bush MUMBAI

 

From:
vincyandena
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: Re: A NEW AGE BIBLE

Dear Michael, May the Lord Jesus bless the missionary effort you have undertaken to make us aware of the harm that the New Age Bible will create. We will definitely not like to posses one. We will forward your mail to all our friends.

We would also like to be part of the signature campaign. God Bless, Vincy & Ena D’Silva MUMBAI

 

 

 

 

From:
richard mascarenhas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:51 PM

Dear Mike, How are you? I have been reading all your mails and those on the NCB have been really worrying. Two days back I had been to St. Pauls in Bandra for some other books and I have bought a NCB also just to read it and see the errors. Your mail of today gives it in much detail. I have also forwarded your emails to a priest friend (Parish Priest) of mine in the Victoria Church, Mahim and have asked for his comment. When I visited him a week back he already had a copy but had not gone through it. He has promised to reply to my emails which of course are forwards from you. Many thanks for the email addresses of the Bishops. I intend to write to them separately. As I am to fly back to Muscat in another 3 days, this will have to wait till I get back… The question in my mind is, How could the inspired Word of God, the Bible, have anything common with the sacred (?) books of other faiths? 

Whatever options you have to fight against this NCB, please consider me a part and whatever assistance possible from my side I am willing to give. I have lost much peace reading these developments and will not be at rest until I get to read that this is withdrawn. Love Richard Mascarenhas MUSCAT

 

From:
A BISHOP’S SECRETARY. NAME WITHHELD ON REQUEST
To:

prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: PROBLEMS WITH THE COMMENTARIES IN THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Mike, I would not like to be quoted….
When I first heard of it, I asked to see a copy of it. Honestly I was not impressed … simply because they have diluted the whole language part. I looked at certain texts and I felt it would not be helpful. The NRSV or RSV (and other study bibles) are closer to the original. Having attended Catholic Bible school I prefer my study Bibles. I just refused to buy it.
I read your detailed study on the new bible…. all of you have done a thorough research…. will go through the points myself. Is it ok to pass on the email to others (lay people and priests) who might otherwise fall prey to this? Much love

SECRETARY TO A BISHOP

 

From:
maurice dmello Posted in MangaloreanCatholics digest no. 931, July 16, 2008 in response to my Alert on NCB:

All Catholics should know that any literature approved by the Roman Catholic Church has its approval mark: ‘imprimatur’ (means approved by censor of the Roman Catholic Church).
The (New) Jerusalem Bible is the product of the best Bible scholarship in the Roman Catholic Church. It is an excellent scholarly work for serious students of the Bible, especially us, Roman Catholics. The notes have a distinct Roman Catholic flavor and I am sure is church approved (imprimatur). Please make sure we read the church approved literature.

Maurice D’Mello CANADA

 

From:
Fr. Victor Borde
To:

michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: hi

Hi Michael, Greeting in Christ,

Many things to talk with u, first I’ve read your mails to response2communitybible. Sorry for not replying

I wanted to phone and discuss somethings, so I was trying to get your number, plz forward your phone number. I didnt want to email in case my mail gets forwarded, not because I want to be anonymous but … writing this mail after reading your last mail. My number is XXXX Fr. Victor

From:
Fr. Victor Borde
To:

prabhu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:46 PM Subject: RE:

Dear Michael, many people /even priests are least interested. Met Fr. ZZ today who returned from Potta, he was
telling me that most there dont even know that this Bible is published.
Spoke to another priest, who was attending some seminar in Pune with cardinal Toppo and some other Bishops. He brought out the topic of the NCB, but the reaction seems to be -‘who’s bothered’? kind of… from the Bishops. PUNE

 

From:
sonny dsa
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:25 PM

Subject: Re: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Dearest Mike, If the so called new age Bible really contains all that stuff, its nothing short of blasphemy. I would like to be among the first to sign up against the devious “parallels”. Kenneth D’Sa GOA

 

From:
julesbarretto
To:
valdsouz@vsnl.com
Date: Jul 11, 2008 1:47 PM Subject: Objection to New Bible
Dear Lordship, [Addressed to the Bishop of Poona]

Concerning the newly released Bible. 

Why should the New Community Bible be called a Bible?

The few that have read the book are highly astonished by the controversial commentary being dealt out by Fr. Rui DeMenezes. A lot of questions have surfaced regarding the true intentions of such a book. Many Christians have been deeply hurt by such dialogue and have decided to take action against it.

Here are some examples that are contradictory to our beliefs and the doctrines of the church:

1)      Yoga – Refer to Page 12

Is this practice supported by the Church; if not why mention and encourage it?

2)      Mythical Garden – Refer to Page 14

Was the Garden of Eden a Mythical Garden? Why was it not mentioned as a mythical garden. Are we undermining God the Creator?

 

 

3)      First Sin referred to as Sexual Sin – Refer to Page 15

There is no inference or proof in the Bible to support that.

4)      Plagues – Page 101

Did they happen or not? If they didn’t why do we celebrate the Passover?

5)      Parting of the Red Sea – Refer Page 112

Was it parted? Is it mentioned to sensationalise the Word? Then why is it there? We Christians can accept the truth the way we see it. By trivialising the event as a gimmick to sell a popular motion picture or to accentuate the effect – the commentator has invoked angry reactions from Christians. Please refer to Exodus 14:15

6)      10 Commandments – Refer Page 121/122

7)      Joshua 3:17 – Refer Page

The commentator says it “didn’t really happen” The truth was obviously only revealed to him and not Joshua.

These are just a few references to the distortion of the Word. We are up in arms against it and will encourage our community at large to boycott it. Please go through it Your Lordship and learn for yourself. It is quite shocking to say the least. If this is the case – which Bible should a Christian to refer to?

The Lord says, “Be attentive to all that I have said to you. Do not INVOKE the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.” Exodus 23:13

Has this fallen on deaf ears? Or is Fr Menezes conveniently choosing to ignore the word????

Your Lorship; we need answers and fast, about the corrective action to be taken. This is against our faith and the beliefs that we have been brought up with. The distortion is an utter disgrace by a “priest” of the Church; our own leader; leading the flock astray. It is downright shameful. Yours in Christ! Julius Barretto
VICE CHAIRMAN, PUNE SERVICE TEAM

 

From:
brvaleriandalmaida
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:12 PM

Subject: Re: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Dear Mike, Praise God! My full support in whatever way that I can and I will. This book (I will not call it as Holy Bible) must be withdrawn from further printing. What I hear is first 15,000 copies are sold out and second edition under printing in Calcutta. I wish God had provided me enough money to purchase the original script and destroy it from the root. This is all money spindling activity. God Bless you Valerian Dalmaida ABU DHABI PREACHER OF THE WORD OF GOD

From:
brvaleriandalmaida
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net

Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:56 AM

Dear Mike, Praise God! Please see this link for my comments on NCB:
http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=84287 Love Valerian

New ‘Indian Bible’ strikes positive chord among Catholics

Mumbai, July 10
(IANS) Mother Mary in a sari…

http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=84287 July 11, 2008

Generations after generations we received faith, a simple faith from our ancestors who beleived in Jesus Christ born in a manger and as Jesus said” He is the bread from Heaven”. He became food for us and he died for the sin of the first man Adam and the first woman Eve.
In the book of Genesis, it is clear about creation of man. Then why the commentary is saying wrong? Why the name of Gita, Upanishad, Arjuna, Krishna brought inside the commentary. Who are these theologians? This is a book and does not require imprimatur. I say it is a book and not Holy Bible. Holy Bible cannot have commentary like this.
This is done to please the Hindus. Dear faithful, do not buy this book. If you have bought one, please burn it. If God had given me wealth, I would have purchased the original copy of the entire script and burnt it. Please read Ps 5. You will see that we are asked to read Gayatri Mantra. Why the Bishops are sitting quiet? Why we cannot storm Rome through signature campaigns?
This book has to be withdrawn and we request Bishop Thomas Dabre to withdraw the imprimatur and St.Pauls to change the title of the book from Holy Bible to any other name. Jesus said to St.Paul-“My grace is sufficient”. I hope and pray that the grace and mercy of God shall flow abundantly on St.Pauls and Bishop Dabre and they will listen to the voice of God. God is merciful and HE forgives those who repent. If this is done for any motive like to spin money or to please the majority community of India, then our next generation will suffer because they will not know which is the real bible?

Valerian

From:
brvaleriandalmaida To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc: RM Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:39 AM Subject:

Dear Mike, Praise God!
Please find attached the comments on the NCB. If you get permission from the lady [Juliana] who wrote it, I will circulate among more than 500 people who in turn will caution thousands and thousands about this book. This will be a powerful tool so that the people become aware and react in love. God Bless You Vallie

(These are the comments of a person on reading the New Community Bible-Catholic Edition approved by the Bishops of Pune and Mumbai and Imprimatur from Bishop Thomas Dabre and Published by St. Pauls, released for public on 28th June. Dear brothers and sisters, the Holy Bible, the word of God heals but in this case, the person after reading developed pain in body, mind and soul)

From:
brvaleriandalmaida
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:42 PM

Subject: Re: NEW- AGE COMMUNITY BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED ‘NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE’ (NCB)

Dear Mike, Praise God! If we have to print and distribute we will do it without fear. God has given us freedom from all darkness and oppressions. All support from me. Text is fine. Love Vallie

 

 

 

From:
binny john
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:30 PM

Subject: RE: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Thanks Br. Michael for your incisive insights. 

Tell the Bishops – ‘root’ out all the ‘nonsense’ from the seminaries – otherwise, we will periodically get such ‘fruits’, for we are only reaping what we have sown. I have nothing more to say, as this statement is much food for thought.

Rgds, Binny John BANGALORE

From:
binny john
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:40 PM Subject: My thoughts

Dear Brother,

I would also suggest that you parallelly also sound Vatican channels – some of our Bishops are dead scared of some of these ‘theologians’ – partly why they have ‘flourished’. Rgds, Binny John

From:
binny john
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: FW: My thoughts

A word of advice for you, dear Brother –

don’t break your head too much on this – remember, there was one Judas in the 11 – so, the best approach is to bring the matter to the concerned authorities and then ignore them – of course, bring it to the Lord in prayer – of late, God has been revealing much on the intercessory power of prayer – we are in the nth. hour and we need to focus on the essentials – such people have drifted away and we cannot waste too much of time on them – they are basically ‘blind guides’ (with no authentic vision and purpose – spiritual charlatans, if I have to be very right and in the Protestant parlance, they will be called ‘false prophets’ (if you want it dead right – too sad we do not use such words in our settings – that is also part of the problem) Rgds, Binny John

From:
binny john
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
CC TO THE BISHOPS AND ST PAULS:

Cc:
vasaidiocese@gmail.com ; percival_fernandez@vsnl.net ; valdsouz@vsnl.com ; punedioc@vsnl.com ; bpsoosa@md4.vsnl.net.in ; stpaulsmarketing@gmail.com ; cardinal@ernakulamarchdiocese.org ; cardinaltoppo@gmail.com ; telestoppo@rediffmail.com ; abpstanny1@dataone.in ; imarcleemis@hotmail.com ; michaelprabhu@vsnl.net ;

Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: NCB – Feedback of Binny from Bangalore ……

Dear Friends, Greetings in Jesus name, who is the same Yesterday, Today and Forever.

I write this email with the specific intention of highlighting some issues (as I see it) with regard to the NCB (New Community Bible).

I would, however, not be wanting to go and point out areas of concern in specific commentaries, as Mr. Michael Prabhu in his report (Word file attachment) (and many others also).. A further addition to this, will not really be needed, from my end. However, I would like to raise some broad issues that pertain to the NCB.

#1 Does the NCB unequivocally state that the Bible, which is God’s word, in comparison to other religious Scriptures, is supremely and uniquely the full and complete revelation of God to mankind?

I hereby point out to a statement on the NCB from St. Paul’s that summarises the intention, but still fails to highlight the Bible’s pre-eminence. I quote “References made to the Indian Scriptures in the Commentary could perhaps make some Christians uncomfortable. The question may be raised why as to Indian Scriptures are referred to in a Biblical Commentary. Such references serve only to get a more inter-cultural and contextualized understanding of certain Biblical terms and concepts. Highlighting some meeting points would also serve as an invitation for people of other faiths to approach and draw from the treasures of the Bible. This, however, does not imply in any way that Indian Scriptural terms are parallel to Biblical terms or that the parallel references are saying the same thing as the Biblical text”.

I believe clarification of the Bible’s uniqueness is essential, as, not doing so, could result in the danger, of misinterpreting or misunderstanding, the unique and supreme standing and authority of God’s word vis-a-vis other Scriptures which are not divinely inspired (in the same sense), but are religious texts into which the Spirit of God has implanted certain ‘rays of truth’ in order to give its adherants the opportunity to be open and receptive to the Truth that is contained in the Gospel (Bible)
(here, I am, in a nutshell, trying to summarising the teaching of the Catechism of the Catholic Church in this matter).

Already, we have the problem of the phrase ‘ray of truth’ being misinterpreted or misunderstood in various forums within the Church. To illustrate this point, please take a look at 4 drawings in the NCB (in 2nd. attachment – image file), out of which 3 are perfectly fine, but the 1st. one is problematic, simply because it is open to misinterpretation – this is not something that should happen since it is the Bible and not a work of art that is open ended.

This mainly happens when intellectual, theological and philosophical reasoning is not properly and fully submitted to the Bible and authentic teaching of the Church.

#2 The NCB can be properly viewed, read and understood (as would be the intention of the publishers, authors, etc.) by Christians /Catholics who are strong in their faith and who understand the authority and supremacy and uniqueness of the Bible vis-a-vis other religious texts (even, if there be some misgivings with parts of the interpretation /referencing).

But, it can be a source of confusion /misunderstanding for those believers who are just nominal or weak in their faith.

#3 All interpretation and reference to other Scriptures (as the NCB does) should undergo scrutiny and revision (where warranted) through an eminent non-partisan panel authorised by the CBCI and the Vatican, which reviews the interpretation /commentaries in the light of Scripture, Church tradition and the guidelines of the Magisterium.

This will ensure that the revised edition will be one that one can safely buy, possess and cherish as God’s word for the Indian people.

 

 

 

For, at the end of the day, as it is God’s word (& not just a spiritual book) that is being published, the same should pass through a thorough test (as Scripture exhorts, “test every spirit”) and then will the NCB be a New Community Bible and not just a New Community Book (given the various concerns that it has caused amongst certain well meaning and committed Chrisitans, both lay and clerical). A Bible should not be the cause of heartburn in the Christian community!! A book may, but never the Bible!!! 

Here, I do not question the various tests and checks that the NCB has already been subjected to, but, given the issues raised (in recent days), a further review is warranted, to make it fool-proof.

A final word for the Bishops, who are the guardians of the ‘deposit of Truth’ – the prophetic voice of the Spirit of God springs quite unexpectedy, vociferously, spontaneously, and stridently from sections of the laity, and they should, in true humility, see this as God’s way of wanting to get their attention.

The laity have no axe to grind (though sometimes, their objections could be a little crude – that was also the case when many of the prophets of Old spoke), but seek to humbly express their concerns and we do pray and trust that God will guide and direct your leadership in this matter also.

Lastly, I would like to convey my appreciation of the intention and commitment of St. Paul’s and the Scripture scholars to have come up with such a work. Their toil, commitment and contribution is to be rightly acknowledged, but their work would come to a true and full completion (from a Biblical standpoint), only after a thorough review and examination of the current version is done. With this, I am not saying, that all differences will be resolved, but at least, the current level of unease and discomfort would greatly be alleviated and greater peace would prevail.

Finally, I commend this intention to Mary, most holy and the sure help of Christians, more so in situations such as this, so that God will ultimately receive all the glory. In His Name,
Binny John BANGALORE

 

From:
PRIEST. NAME WITHHELD
To:

prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:22 PM

Subject: Re: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Every Catholic Bible needs to have an imprimatur. I wonder who has given the imprimatur to the NCB. Is it Catholic or Protestant? If the Red Sea Miracle was for a box office effect, then there is something seriously wrong with the commentators because as secondary to the Power of God, in theology, there is even a scientific explanation given. So where faith and science meet in a miracle, it surely cannot be propagated as a fictitious imagination. [Jesuit, ROME]

 

From:
NAME WITHHELD

To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:43 PM

Subject: RE: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Dear Mike I took some time to do a Google search and found the webpage that contains details of the launch of the NCB in Mumbai and several other Indian cities, including Chennai. The page also had some explanations about what it was striving to do. It seemed to have received careful exegetical scrutiny. I cannot make any other comments until I see the book for myself, perhaps when I come back to India. Rs. 250 is a bit much to spend on a bible of this type. More comments later. Thanks for keeping me informed. God bless CATHOLIC RETREAT PREACHER SINCE 30 YEARS

From:
NAME WITHHELD
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: the community bible

…I have engaged several people in conversation about it, including Bp. Valerian, who I met recently at the NST meeting. At present I have mixed reaction to the course of action you are suggesting. I was told the matter has gone up to the Vatican and that several bishops are having a consultation about it. You, and many others, have managed to raise an issue that needs addressing. Can we pray that the Holy Spirit grant wisdom at this time so we may take a truthful yet balanced approach? Be assured that I pray for you and thank God for your zeal and commitment to his work.

 

From:
boscojohndsouza

To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 5:02 AM Subject: Re: NCB

Hi Mike, I was going to write to you reg this Bible, i too was in shock when i read in the Times of India epaper.  I think this is paganization going on. If anything is urgent, plz sms me on my numbers: +965-6135339 (Personal Mobile Number) +965-9764593 (Office Mobile number) Thanks, Bosco John D’Souza KUWAIT

 

From: derrick dcosta
[BAHRAIN] To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:24 PM

Subject: New Community Bible EDITED

Dear Michael How are you. I was wondering whether you had any comments on the NCB India version bible which was published by St Pauls and released in Mumbai on 28 June. I found it and its extreme hindu commentary immensely disturbing. Did you analyse it.
I did not have time to read through it completely but because of its content feel that something needs to be done.
Hoping for your response God bless Derrick

From: derrick dcosta
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:18 PM

Subject: NCB India version

Dear Michael I wrote to you about the NCB issue because I thought it would be only a matter of time before you did get involved as you said quite correctly, no one will stick their necks out but try to get you to bell the cat. God bless Derrick

From:
derrick dcosta

To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:32 PM Subject: Re: New Community Bible

Dear Michael EDITED

 

 

 

I am a parishioner of Mahim Bombay, where this bible was launched on the 28th and I did buy a copy on my 2 day stay there and (of course) as you may understand promptly left it behind in Bombay, and so I had to get my dad to dictate two of the commentaries one mentioned which was most offensive in my view and the other as required by A on page 121 on the decalogue. Even my father was horrified. He concurred with me that it will not only offend Catholics but more so Hindus as it seems we have expropriated their texts.

What can be done. I truly love the Church and feel sad that the clergy is so insensitive, heartless and cruel to the faithful. I feel they have truly acted in terms of what the Prophet Ezekiel prophesied 34: 4 “The weak you have not strengthened, and that which was sick you have not healed, that which was broken you have not bound up, and that which was driven away you have not brought again, neither have you sought that which was lost: but you ruled over them with rigour, and with a high hand.”

This is a clear and bold challenge from the translator priests to say to our Lord “I defy you” “I mock your blood shed for me” “I feel Hinduism is more glorious”.  I thought I would honestly say what I felt.

Yes, while it is unfortunate that you are to bear the brunt of the burden of opposition to these so called bold attempts at inculturisation, it is nevertheless true that I have sent an angry mail to St. Paul’s and wish to do much more. I feel as helpless as you… [Discussion of some commentaries including Psalm 5 follows] 

At the above stage I had to bit my lip and stop for I cannot even consider a Bible as unchristian as this, further politically (and this may not be related to the topic at hand except in an abstruse manner) as the Church only acknowledges as Indian tradition the Brahminical concept of Hinduism. What I found particularly painful was the fact that the Gayatri mantra is used for the Sanghs Ghar Vapasi project to convert tribals earlier I mentioned that things going the way it is (to Austine) in a short time even the Kalima of Islam will be used below “Hear O Israel” . 

Dear Michael I do admire your ministry, and feel terrible that you are under so much strain, it is not for us to question Gods will as to why he permitted this to happen (surely he has hardened the hearts of the pastors), as the prophet Jeremiah would put it, we shall put our mouth in the dust, if so be there may be hope. (Lam. 3. 29)

This is the mail I sent to St. Paul’s

“Dear Fathers

I have just purchased the New Community Bible but I regret to say I will not use it nor will permit my family to do so. I must place on record my great sadness that this version was ever published.  While I have purchased the copy I was appalled, disappointed and gravely offended when in many places references were made to Hindu scriptures. What hurts the most is not that the commentary includes references to Hindu scriptures by what I think is a misinterpretation of Nostra Ætate but the lack of references made to the Fathers of the Church and to writings of the Saints as if their writings were of no consequence to the faithful.  It seems that someone has decided what was good for the people, for this change has not come from the people but I feel from a certain section of the clergy.

I am sorry if the above seems untimely or unsympathetic but any involuntary imposition on the Church can have I believe only one source which I feel must be resisted. God bless and apologies for the above Derrick D’Costa

I am likewise certain that this is inviting Gods chastisement in no uncertain manner as the testimony of the scriptures and of the Holy Ghost speak with one voice, Deut. 18: 9 (easy to remember) “When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God shall give thee, beware lest thou have a mind to imitate the abominations of those nations.”

Let me know if I can help further. God bless Derrick D’Costa

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
josephvas
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 5:26 PM

Dear Fr Joseph,

I have been corresponding with some about the new NCB Bible-India version which has the Gayatri mantra used by the VHP to convert poor tribals. This is what the commentary on Psalm 5 says; just for you I putting down what was said and my comments on the same [… quote with comments…] What has happened to make the hierarchy of the Indian Church so blind, insensitive and unmindful of the miseries of the faithful. Poor tribals are forced to recite the Gayatri mantra and to be made Hindu, but the church quotes it openly with an official imprimatur. May God forgive us God bless Derrick

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Your two emails [EDITED]

Dear Michael, …Now as to next steps yes protest is a must, those that have issued this version assume a mantle of invulnerability because they falsely believe there are no good Catholics left who can oppose, no good priests who care about their own souls and are fearful of the judgment of our Saviour.

A signature campaign is essential, but quite importantly one copy of the Bible with critical comments needs to be submitted by someone fearless and important to: Prefect Cardinal William Joseph Levada, Congregation For The Doctrine Of The Faith, Piazza Pio XII, 10 Vatican City (Europe) 00120

Even an email campaign to the congregation is possible (cdf@cfaith.va) with a cc to all archdiocese functionaries who have graced the book. I will participate but I am certain every right minded person will join in. I am only concerned that not many will have bothered as you say to go through the contents.  I sincerely feel as you that the time for silence is past… 

God bless Derrick

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:55 PM Subject: Re: Hi [EDITED]

Dear Michael…Now for a possible signature campaign. The online petition can be used and the advantage of this is allow each individual signing to put his/ her comments, I will sign but as mentioned but I am not qualified to provide a critical letter to Cardinal William Joseph Levada…

As to my personal thoughts I suspect, Rome will not approve this abomination, also a signature campaign diplomatically put will be wonderful… I look forward to meeting you in the future be assured of my prayers. God Bless Derrick

 

 

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: YOUR TWO LETTERS [EDITED]

Dear Michael BTW my comments on Mumbai Mirror article have appeared

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/net/mmpaper.aspx?page=article&sectid=2&contentid=2008070920080709023950233aa24a37&pageno=1#

This version has been imposed by a section of the clergy. It is wrong to mix religions. It is sad statement on the confused understanding of the Catholic faith of the Church Heirarchy. This version is an outrage. Shame on the translators and shame on those allowed this travesty to occur, for this version is definitely not Christian and will surely hurt the sentiments of all our hindu brothers and sisters.

Anyway must stand for something once in life. Derrick

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: FYI NCB version comments

Forwarded Message —- From:
derrick dcosta
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:40:18 AM Subject:
NCB version comments
I do not feel that any Scriptural commentary should totally bypass two thousand years of ascetical, dogmatical and theological development of the Church Fathers, Doctors and saints, but the NCB ignores them entirely. I could not trace Aquinas, Augustine, Ambrose etc in much of the commentary.
The second is also true, that all saints have made use of profane authors such as Socrates, Seneca, Pythagoras, Pliny (natural history), Aurelius, Descartes, etc. but it is also equally true that these were used not to proclaim stoic, gnostic and other non-christian philosophies. Where the NCB stands out is the use of silence after a quote of say the Gayatri Mantra (silence often though not invariably implies consent), second that though fathers and doctors of the Church and many many saints do quote profane writers one would be hardpressed to find a single one of them quoting devotional texts like the odes to Sybil and Venus.
Here on the other hard given the example of Gayatri mantra, which is a devotional text used for the Sanghs Ghar Vapasi project to convert tribals plus politically (and this may not be related to the topic at hand except in an abstruse manner) at the Church only acknowledges as Indian tradition the Brahminical concept of Hinduism.
I am putting down the commentary passage I found the most offensive. This is the text of the commentary on Psalm 5 Page 877 of the New Community Bible, and writing it is not a pleasant experience:
“Gayatri Mantra (Rig Veda 3.62.10) At daybreak facing the rising sun
“Om Bhur Bhuvasvaha/ Tat Savitur Varenyam/ Bhargo Vevasya dhimani/ Dhiyo yo nah Pracodayat.” (May we meditate on the most excellent lustre of the sun God, that he may illumine our intellect)
During the day we have to find the straight path of the Lord; amidst the crookedness and temptations of life, so we (v. 9) come first before God, to set our sight right (v. 8.) . V. 10 utters a curse against the wicked (as do many other Psalms) Such curses appear to us unchristian, but they must be seen within an OT theology, of retribution, when belief in a future lifewas not known. The Justice of God had to somehow manifest itself in this life. This is what we hope for.
My comments:
1. May we meditate on the most excellent lustre of the sun God, that he may illumine our intellect) = This appears to be the most offensive of all the texts in the commentary simply because it is used aggressively against the poorest of the poor Christians who are victims of Hindu mob violence. Further note how no comment on the correctness or otherwise of invoking the sun God is mentioned. Perhaps the commentator agrees with the Rig veda, because he saves his critique for the Holy Spirit. (see the OT theology derisive reference). Note in passing how he omits to quote any father or doctor of the Church.
2. V. 10 utters a curse against the wicked (as do many other Psalms) Such curses appear to us unchristian, but they must be seen within an OT theology, of retribution, when belief in a future life was not known. The Justice of God had to somehow manifest itself in this life. This is what we hope for.: This is a pathetic display of ignorance all the Fathers especially St Augustine plead that the verses have to interpreted metaphorically as well as literally if the meaning is not clear. (1) Here of course the literal meaning is sufficient but can be supplemented mystically as towards sin for instance which was used in earlier commentaries. What is appalling is that somehow disbelief is directed to the word of the Holy Ghost by the comment “appear to us unchristian”
I hope that the above criticism is viewed in a healthy manner as from one who loves the Church with his whole heart.
God bless Derrick D’Costa
(1) It is a certain rule, says St. Augustine (1), and is commonly followed by the Holy Fathers, to take the words of Scripture in their proper literal sense, unless some absurdity would result from doing so; for if it were allowed to explain every thing in a mystic sense, it would be impossible to prove any article of Faith from the Scripture, and it would only become the source of a thousand errors, as every one would give it whatever sense he pleased. St. Aug. l. 3, de Doct, Chris. c. 10.

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: NEW- AGE COMMUNITY BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED ‘NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE’ (NCB) EDITED

Dear Michael It is very well written and to the point.  It does seem to be a lot of effort. My comments follow and are attached to this mail. 

The merits or otherwise of the Gayatri mantra [see NCB on Psalm 5] John Dayals latest post on Kandhamal:

This is an ashram with a few hundred young girls and women who are taught Sanskrit and a few of the martial arts. At the swami’s call, they come out, squat on the road while their male colleagues chop down two trees on their side of the ashram’s boundary walls. All vehicles come to a grinding halt. Pedestrians and motorcyclists who get caught by the swiftness of the operation are given a simple test to prove their faith, and their loyalty to the swami.

 

 

They are asked to recite the ‘gayatri’ mantra. If they do, and thereby pass the test, they are told as loyal Hindus they should extend moral support to the road closure and stay back for three hours. If they cannot, they are given the thrashing of their lives. I have met several Christian youth who could not recite the Mantra and were beaten up.”

You could conceivably also add the point of persecution.  One matter which I feel cannot be understressed is that the
Brahminical Hinduism which is majority of the commentary may not be accepted by the Dalits and tribals who have a different heritage.

God bless you Michael I imagine it must have been a terrible strain and now I feel doubly troubled for my first Holy Land mail. Many many thanks.  Our blessed Mother will surely reward you for defending her son. God bless Derrick

COMMENTS:

Dear Michael…

2. This was a good comment – “What a travesty of a commentary on a biblical passage. The meaning of 2 Kings 17: 7-23 is crystal clear: God visited His wrath on His chosen people because they worshipped idols [images] of the pagan nations, and paid homage to them using the religious practices and symbols of the pagan cultures. Is not exactly that is which is happening in the Indian Church today in the guise of inculturation? The NCB is only one more example of that, inviting the wrath of God on the Church.”

I can only say WOW, you have pulled these words out the Heart of the Church and I see so clearly the finger of God (Digitus Dei) in your rebuke. Praise God and special thanks to the Holy Ghost who spoke through your words.

6. I note with great concern the comment “In almost three hundred words of commentary, never once is Satan or the devil mentioned. The closest reference was to “the immense capacity of evil to tyrannize human beings”.” I was wondering whether a similar situation also prevails for Christian eschatological terms such as the four last things “Death” “Hell” “Judgement” and “Heaven”. If so a mention must be made.

7. I also suggest the following in case of this paragraph “The first is, not unexpectedly, an excerpt from Nostra Ætate #2… It also says that they contain “a ray of that truth which enlightens all men”.

The NCB by its compromised “silence” after each non-Christian scriptural quote does not merely “reject nothing” but “PROCLAIMS” it as true by its very silence. It is absolutely different and the faithful are totally horrified by the attitude no less than the commentary. It is not a commentator, it is the “Church” which speaks here. {God forgive us, how will our Blessed Mother be able to prevent the sure vengeance of God on the Indian Church.}

10. I suggest to please quote 2 Cor. 6 FULLY in your dissertation “14 Bear not the yoke with unbelievers. For what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath the faithful with the unbeliever? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God; as God saith: I will dwell in them, and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore, Go out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing.” Apparently the commentators do not believe it and needs to be re-stressed.

 

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:16 PM Subject: Re: COMPLETED REPORT ON NCB

Dear Michael I found it to be well written in a few words, the issues of new age, indifferentism, latitudinarism, liberation theology and vacillations were brought out in few pages. It was found to be clearly to the point.

Quick comments;

3) I appreciate your politeness when discussing the Bishop of Poona’s words.

5.) You did not mention the potential reaction of Hindu’s from expropriating their scriptures, even the very concept may offend, even if they have not read the NCB.

Finally as regards action taken, I have already written to the response2communitybible@gmail.com  as you know.
Do I need to do anything else. I was also hoping for a signature campaign at a later date once awareness increases.

 

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:58 PM

Subject: My response to the NCB Bible

To, The Individual Bishops of India
Your Grace, Please find attached my response to the New Community Bible which was released lately. I thank you for your kindness in permitting us to respond to you. Thanking you Derrick D’Costa

Your Grace,

I am truly thankful for the opportunity to convey
my feelings of utter sadness, helplessness and deep sense of outrage over the NCB Bible India version as my former letter conveyed only a part of my chagrin and was not constructive in terms of its structure I beg your kindness in reading my response again.

A Lost Opportunity

My first impression on reading the commentary and the Bible is that a wonderful opportunity has been lost. Here was an opportunity perhaps to quote the Early Church Fathers, Doctors of the Church and our mystic and ascetic saints, all of whose writings have not been transmitted to the faithful, and blend it with the existential challenges faced by Christian families in India, who live in the midst of poverty and communal violence.

 

 

 

 

 

The challenges and trials of the people of Israel are keenly experienced by Catholic families in India in terms of violence, social discrimination etc., not to mention the rising tide of materialism, even apostasy which in my Parish many of the poorer Catholics have taken to, the problem of the sects, gender violence, evils such as pornography and the occult but unfortunately this was not to be.

It must be agreed, by your Grace that the several excellent commentaries of St. Jerome, St Augustine, Origen, Clement of Alexandria, Chrysostom on the Holy Scriptures are not bound by their individual culture as they wrote for the Universal Church, in a spirit of true reverence for Holy Scripture. The attitude is somehow to treat the Holy Fathers and their writings as foreign, which is only partly true. We do know that they belonged to different continents and cultures witness St. Augustine from North Africa – St Jerome- Croatia, – St John Chrysostom – Antioch, Tertullian – Carthage, and Origen – Egypt, but they spoke just one language, the language of the Holy Spirit. The Church is universal precisely because it is universal as to place, time and doctrine. As to whether their writings have a stamp of their culture or of the Universal Church, that I leave to your Grace for your conscience to decide.

The commentary reads like something borrowed from ISKCON and Baba Ramdev who are in any case available in media in not a very different format than what is presented. By the way the initial news articles on the Bible have already been posted on two Hindu fundamentalist sites. Perhaps it is the condescending attitude of the commentators since I could not see much criticism of their religious texts. Perhaps history will put the perceived expropriation of Hindu religious texts in a Catholic Bible as one more impetus to violence.

At the very same time the commentary can perhaps be compared to an event of inviting such revered Gurus of the Hindu faith to our Churches to provide their sermons with the full and explicit approbation of the Church of God.

A tragic turn of events

The Church in India is today under attack, poor Christian, religious, tribals and dalits are terrorized, there have been cases of physical violence against nuns and priests in urban centres as Bombay and the remote forests of Kandhamal, Orissa. The State and its organs of the police, administration and judiciary are biased towards the aggressors. Perhaps your Grace has not witnessed a riot first hand, I have.

In the backdrop of the worst persecution of the Church in India post-independence, I can think of nothing more traumatic to the faithful people of God than what has been done. Here the aggressors are not the Hindu fundamentalists who force the Christians to recite the Gayatri Mantra (I will return to this painful subject later) but our own priests and religious. As Psalm 54: 13-15 (your Grace these words are present in every breviary) puts it – For if my enemy had reviled me, I would verily have borne with it. And if he that hated me had spoken great things against me, I would perhaps have hidden myself from him. But thou a man of one mind, my guide, and my familiar, who didst take sweetmeats together with me: in the house of God we walked with consent.

A dishonest assumption

The commentators have used a brahminical concept of Hinduism one that is rejected by the scheduled and backward castes (approximately) 30-40% of the population of India and the tribals who comprise another 10%, not to speak of the other minorities comprising 17% of the population. So the audience appears beforehand to be effectively compromised. I accept the fact that it is the upper castes who rule India for the present, but since when has the Church begun to exercise its favours exclusively on the rich.

The grief of the Holy Spirit

Your Grace cannot be unaware of the several occasions where disrespect and disbelief is exclusively directed to the Holy Scripture inspired by the Holy Spirit and almost never to the mythological texts quoted. My intention is much less to provide a critique of the damaging material that is there (which in any case I am not qualified to do) in the NCB than to provide my just concern for the chastisement that will surely fall on the Church in India as the night follows the day. You are aware of what befell Constantinople, whose patriarch did not rule correctly on the Filioque dispute thus grieving the Holy Spirit. Surely you can see the even closer parallels to their actions in this our days.

The contrast between light and darkness

I beg your Grace to look at a parallel commentary between the treatment of Psalm 5 by the Holy Doctor of the Church St. Alphonsus Liguori and by Fr Raja SJ (one of the former presidents of the Society of Bible Studies in India) who provided the commentary on the Psalms in the NCB:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Psalm 5 commentary of St Alphonsus

“The Divine Office” 

Psalm 5 commentary of the New Community Bible 

(V 1, 2.) God hears and understands everything; but sometimes he seems not to hear, or not to understand, because the prayer that we make to him is either not just or because it is ill-made. (V. 3) Hence David said: O Lord, hear me, understand me. I will always have recourse to Thee ;

and I know of a certainty, according to Thy promises, that Thou wilt always hearken to my prayer. (V. 4.) I will place myself in Thy presence to pray to Thee, and I will always have before my eyes that Thou hatest all iniquity. (V. 9.) Propter inimicos meos, dirige in conspectu tuo viam meam. (To confound my enemies so direct me that I may always walk in Thy presence.) (v. 11) An open sepulchre that exhales a malignant infection; for they use their tongues to weave deceits; judge them, and punish them as they deserve. (v. 15.) Thou hast surrounded us on all sides with the shield of goodwill which renders us secure from all the assaults of our enemies.

(Also to be noted is that The Holy See has frequently praised and recommended all the works of St. Alphonsus; but the decree of March 23, 1871, which conferred on St. Alphonsus the title of Doctor of the Church, makes special mention of this commentary on the Psalms.) Further St Alphonsus also gives us this counsel – “Again, when we meet with a prayer that the psalmist addressed to God for the entire Hebrew people, we should have in view the Christian people. So also when the royal prophet speaks of his enemies this being oftenest understood, according to the literal sense, of his many persecutors we should think of the evil spirits, who are indeed our worst enemies, since they seek to deprive us of the life of the soul rather than of the life of the body.” AND “We would here once more remark on the subject of the enemies from whom the royal prophet endured persecution, that all the psalms when they speak literally are to be understood mystically of all the internal and external enemies, especially of our most powerful and most dangerous enemies, I mean the devils who are plotting against our eternal salvation.”- (cf pg. 18. and 39 of “THE DIVINE OFFICE”

The commentator absolutely overlooks the near unanimity of the Fathers and derisively make references to something called “OT theology”.

Page 877 of the New Community Bible, (writing it is not a pleasant experience: )

“Gayatri Mantra (Rig Veda 3.62.10)

At daybreak facing the rising sun

“Om Bhur Bhuvasvaha/ Tat Savitur Varenyam/ Bhargo Vevasya dhimani/ Dhiyo yo nah Pracodayat.” (May we meditate on the most excellent lustre of the sun God, that he may illumine our intellect)

During the day we have to find the straight path of the Lord; amidst the crookedness and temptations of life, so we (v. 9) come first before God, to set our sight right (v. 8.) . V. 10 utters a curse against the wicked (as do many other Psalms) Such curses appear to us unchristian, but they must be seen within an OT theology, of retribution, when belief in a future life was not known. The Justice of God had to somehow manifest itself in this life. This is what we hope for.

 

I would like to comment a bit on the above and I beg your kindness to excuse my ignorance since I am but a lay person;

1. May we meditate on the most excellent lustre of the sun god, that he may illumine our intellect) = This appears to be the most offensive of all the texts in the commentary simply because it is used aggressively against the poorest of the poor Christians who are victims of Hindu mob violence. Further note how no comment on the correctness or otherwise of invoking the sun God is mentioned. Perhaps the commentator agrees with the Rig Veda, because he saves his critique for the Holy Spirit.(see the OT theology derisive reference). Note in passing how he omits to quote any father or doctor of the Church.

 

 

If we see Dr John Dayals latest posts on Kandhamal (cf. 8th July Tumidibandh post http://groups.google.com/group/JohnDayal/browse_thread/thread/13389056ed79ae45 ) he says this “This is an ashram with a few hundred young girls and women who are taught Sanskrit and a few of the martial arts. At the swami’s call, they come out, squat on the road while their male colleagues chop down two trees on their side of the ashram’s boundary walls. All vehicles come to a grinding halt. Pedestrians and motorcyclists who get caught by the swiftness of the operation are given a simple test to prove their faith, and their loyalty to the swami. They are asked to recite the ‘gayatri’ mantra. If they do, and thereby pass the test, they are told as loyal Hindus they should extend moral support to the road closure and stay back for three hours. If they cannot, they are given the thrashing of their lives. I have met several Christian youth who could not recite the Mantra and were beaten up – by the young women, and beaten up bad.”

2. V. 10 utters a curse against the wicked (as do many other Psalms) Such curses appear to us unchristian, but they must be seen within an OT theology, of retribution, when belief in a future life was not known. The Justice of God had to somehow manifest itself in this life. This is what we hope for.: This is a pathetic display of ignorance all the Fathers especially St Augustine plead that the verses have to interpreted metaphorically as well as literally if the meaning is not clear. Here of course the literal meaning is sufficient but can be supplemented mystically as towards sin and the evil one for instance which was used in earlier commentaries. What is appalling is that somehow disbelief is directed to the word of the Holy Ghost by the comment “appear to us unchristian” (1)

What I have written is sufficient in my own opinion to forbid anyone I love from even looking at the version for fear of them losing their souls eternally.

Necessary steps

I do not think anything can be done at this stage since it requires a lot of courage to do the right thing. Princes of the Church of India have given their approbation, imprimaturs have been granted and yet as Catholics we cannot bear Our Lord being crucified anew. I beg therefore your Grace to do the right thing, and speak the inconvenient truth.

What cannot be disputed now is the immense capability of self-destruction present in our Church. It appears that the opinion of the people no longer matter, a Brahminical concept of Hinduism is forced down upon us. Yes my Goan ancestors were Brahmins, but the majority of the Christian population in India is dalit and tribal in origin they will feel twice as estranged as I do, but unfortunately due to fear or ignorance may not be able to effectively express themselves. But God who sees all will take their side for he always takes the side of the poor.

I must finally say that this Bible for me makes no difference to my faith, my love and reverence for the Church remains unchanged and while I am grieved and disappointed with what has happened, I trust God and believe that even now he has the power to change hearts and minds, and present the Church spotless. Even now I thank your Grace for your kindness in accepting our response and surrender this matter into your hands.

God bless Derrick D’Costa (Former parishioner of St Michaels, Bombay)

(1) –” It is a certain rule, says St. Augustine, and is commonly followed by the Holy Fathers, to take the words of Scripture in their proper literal sense, unless some absurdity would result from doing so; for if it were allowed to explain every thing in a mystic sense, it would be impossible to prove any article of Faith from the Scripture, and it would only become the source of a thousand errors, as every one would give it whatever sense he pleased.( St. Aug. l. 3, de Doct, Chris. c. 10)”

 

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: Re: LETTERS TO THE NEWSPAPERS

Dear Michael I am most encouraged by yours and Juliana’s letters. Fr Anthony [Charanghat]’s dismissive depiction of the faithful as narrowminded is utterly shameful. My father made this comment to me that our faith is more than the Bible it seems that St Paul is not content just with not propagating the works of the Saints and Doctors of the Church but would if it could erase their writings entirely from the consciousness of the faithful. But this they cannot do, St. Alphonsus works whose back was bent due to excessive penance and writing, and whose eyes totally blind are immortal and the evil one cannot touch our Saints. God bless and best of luck Derrick

From:
derrick dcosta
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:06 PM Subject: ORKUT

Dear Michael I have added this post in ORKUT http://www.orkut.com/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=49533812 (the second page of my posts) Derrick
Response to the NCB Bible – Brother Michael Prabhu
Dear friends
It seems that apart from our helplessness very little seems to be happening, the faith of the Indian Church is put in tremendous danger, and an assault is made on the Dalit and tribal christians, and in fact all Christians by thrusting a Brahmanical commentary on them, and all this not by the Hindu right wing but by those we love as Fathers and Pastors. My heart speaks of betrayal, my upbringing says obey, and my conscience says fight on the side of the Lord even if you be in the minority of one.

 

 

Please take some time to read Brother Michael Prabhu’s post on the New Community bible http://www.ephesians-511.net/
From my childhood we were told to obey and respect our priests and I still do, but the fathers must pay close attention to St. Alphonsus who laments: “Alas! what shall become of the scandalous priest on the day of judgment? I will, says the Lord, meet them as the bear that is robbed of her whelps. Hosea xiii. 8.
With what rage does the bear rush on the sportsman that has killed or stolen her whelps! It is thus God has declared that he will meet on the day of judgment the priest that has destroyed instead of saving souls. And if, says St. Augustine, we shall scarcely be able to give an account of ourselves, what shall become of the priest that shall have to render an account of the souls he has sent to hell?”
Beware God is merciful but just, as Wisdom vi. 6 puts it “Horribly and speedily will he appear to you: for a most severe judgment shall be for them that bear rule.” God bless Derrick

From:
Derrick D’Costa
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: Re: WHOSE? +NCB

Dear Michael

I am disappointed by the lack of response from Catholics, it is a matter that should make our heads hang down with shame when all the response is forced to come from you.  I personally thought earlier that everyone was OK with it until I encountered you, this herd mentality of us Catholics will be our undoing.  The powerful Bishops and Cardinals do not understand the wonderful advice of Holy Scripture “He who loves danger will perish in it”(Ecclus. iii.27.). 

Anyway thanks for the news good or bad I am grateful to know.  Have you seen my posts on the ORKUT site again it is sad that I am the only one posting. http://www.orkut.com.br/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=49533812 God bless Derrick

 

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:
A
PRIEST
Cc:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:12 PM

Subject: the new community bible

Pl. find attachment. I am forwarding this to the Bishop of Poona for consideration. Kindly respond.

I MRS. JULIANA D’SOUZA VERY STRONGLY FEEL THAT THIS NEWLY RELEASED COMMUNITY BIBLE CANNOT BE CALLED THE BIBLE.

  • LET ME START BY ASKING YOU, WHAT IS THE BIBLE?
  • ISN’T BIBLE THE HOLY BOOK OF THE CHRISTIANS? ISN’T THIS THE WORD OF GOD, OF WHICH IT IS SAID THAT NOT A WORD CAN BE ADDED NOR DELETED?
  • ISN’T THIS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT FOR MORE THAN 2000 YRS?
  • DOESN’T OUR GOD SPEAK TO US THROUGH THE BIBLE?
  • IS BIBLE AN INTER RELIGIOUS BOOK? IS IT A BOOK OF REFERENCE WHERE WE FIND REFERENCE FROM ALL OTHER SO CALLED GREAT RELIGIONS (PREFACE) THEN HOW CAN I BOAST ABOUT CHRISTIANITY BEING A GREAT RELIGION WHEN THIS BIBLE TELLS ME THAT SIMILAR VALUES ARE FOUND IN ALL THOSE GREAT INDIAN RELIGIONS?
  • LET ME TELL YOU IF THE TEACHINGS OF BIBLE OR JESUS HAD ENTERED GITA OR KURAN, INDIA WOULD BE BURNING TODAY. ANY BODY WILL DARE NOT DISTORT THEIR HOLY BOOKS OR DESTROY THE SANCTITY OF THEIR BOOKS. WHILE TEACHING HINDUISM YOU DARE NOT GIVE REFERENCE FROM BIBLE TO THEM OR ELSE YOU HAVE HAD IT.
  • IT WAS PROPAGATED THAT THIS WOULD BE A BOOK FOR INDIA AND INDIANISM WILL BE ITS MAIN FEATURE. BUT IS GITA A BOOK OF INDIA, OR IS IT A HOLY BOOK OF THE HINDUS? THEN HOW CAN WE SAY WE HAVE ADOPTED INDIANISM WHEN THIS BIBLE CLEARLY TEACHES ABOUT HINDUISM? IT IS THE HINDU TEACHINGS THAT HAS ENTERED OUR BIBLE FOR WHICH I’M SURE ALL THE SCHOLARS WHO HAVE WRITTEN & THOSE WHO PROMOTED THE SALE WILL BE ANSWERABLE TO GOD.
  • LET ME MENTION THAT THE PREFACE TRIES TO JUSTIFY THESE ENTRIES INTO THE BIBLE, BUT MOST OF US ARE NOT INTERESTED IN READING THE PREFACE.THOUGH I AM A TEACHER I HAVE NEVER READ THE PREFACE OF ANY BOOK TILL TODAY.THIS I AM SURE IS TRUE WITH MOST OF US. & I’M SURE THE PREFACE IS ONLY AN EXCUSE, LIKE THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT GIVEN AT THE BEGINNING OF DA.VINCI CODE OR THE MOVIE THE SIN. IT CERTAINLY DID THE DAMAGE THAT IT HAD TO DO TO THE FAITH.& MANY HINDUS ARGUED THAT THIS MOVIE WAS DIRECTED BY A CHRISTIAN HIMSELF.
  • THIS BIBLE HAS NOT ONLY PLAYED WITH THE RELIGIOUS SANCTITY OF THE BIBLE, BUT ALSO WITH THE RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS OF THE PEOPLE OF JESUS OF THE PRESENT GENERATION & THE FAITH OF THE GENERATIONS TO COME.
  • 20,30,40…YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THESE SCHOLARS WHO WROTE & PROMOTED THE SALE OF THIS BIBLE WILL BE DEAD & GONE WHO WILL GIVE THEM THE EXPLANATION AS YOU MAY GIVE ME TODAY?
  • THE BOOK OF GENESIS TAUGHT US THAT OUR POWERFUL GOD CREATED ADAM & EVE & PLACED THEM IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN.BUT WITH THE LITTLE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE LAY PEOPLE HAVE WHAT THE INTERPRETER (THE SCHOLAR) SAYS & MEANS DEFINITELY WILL NOT ENTER OUR BRAINS BECAUSE THE SCHOLAR VERY PLAINLY SAYS THAT THIS IS A FANCIFUL STORY.ADAM & EVE ARE MYTHICAL (PG 12, 14, 15) & IS COMPARED TO BHUMIDEVI. SO WHAT I , AS A LAY PERSON HAS UNDERSTOOD IS THAT ADAM & EVE NEVER EXISTED & THESE ARE ONLY MYTHICAL CHARACTERS.SO JESUS CAME TO DIE FOR THE SIN OF MYTHICAL CHARACTERS.
  • I STRONGLY FEEL THAT SCIENCE TODAY CANNOT PROVE THE THEORY OF ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE & MAN BUT BIBLE PROVED IT THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO BY THE PEOLE WHO WERE INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.& FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT SCIENCE HAVE, BIBLE (GOOD NEWS) HAS AN ANSWER.

 

 

 

 

  • BUT THIS NEW BIBLE IS LOOKING OUT FOR SCIENTIFIC PROOFS & DOESN’T BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF GOD. (pg.101…THE PLAGUES REFERRED TO AS REPITITIOUS & INCONSISTENT….THE STORIES WERE CRAFTED ANEW. THE PLAGUES IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC REPORT.
  • LET ME REMIND YOU HAD MEDICAL SC. BEEN THERE THEY WOULD ALSO BE BAFFELED WITH THESE HAPPENINGS AS THEY ARE BAFFELED ABOUT THE BODY OF ST. FRANCIS XAVIER & THE MIRACLES HAPPENING TODAY.
  • I WAS SUFFERING FROM A TERRIBLE BACK ACHE FOR THREE YEARS.I HAD TO HOLD MY BACK & TURN WHILE SLEEPING.THE DAY I ATTENDED THE TABORE RETREAT AT TADYWALA ROAD I WAS IN TERRIBLE PAIN. I WENT THERE AFTER ATTENDING A SEMINAR AT F.C.COLLEGE. I COULDN’T EVEN DRIVE AND HAD TO STOP EVERY NOW & THEN. BUT AS I WAS LISTENING TO THE WORD OF GOD MY BACK ACHE MIRACULOUSLY VANISHED & SIMULTANEOUSLY AS I COULD FEEL MY PAIN DISAPPEARING & WAS THINKING THAT MY PAIN HAD VANISHED, FR. ANNOUNCED THAT ONE LADY WAS BEING CURED OF HER LOWER BACK ACHE. I KNEW IT WAS ME, BUT JUST COULDN’T STAND UP TO TESTIFY. I WANTED TO GO HOME LIE DOWN & TURN & SEE.BUT AN INNER VOICE KEPT ON TELLING ME, JULIANA YOU ARE HEALED. I THEN TESTIFIED THE NEXT MONTH.THIS HAPPENED ON 9TH DEC.2005 & SINCE THEN I HAVE NEVER HAD BACK PAIN AGAIN. ISN’T THIS A MIRACLE? SCIENCE CANNOT PROVE IT, BUT I KNOW THAT IT IS 100% TRUE.
  • THE YOUNGER GENERATION WILL THEN QUESTION THE CHURCH & ASK FOR SCIENTIFIC PROOF FOR THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST.THE ENTIRE FAITH IS SHAKEN BY THIS NEW INTERPRETATION OF THIS SO CALLED BIBLE.
  • REMEMBER THE WRITERS, SCHOLARS THAT THEY ARE WILL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE IN MIND BUT WE, THE LAY PEOPLE WILL BE VERY CONFUSED & WILL NOT KNOW WHOM TO BELIEVE. THE TOP BIBLE PART (THE WORD OF GOD) OR THE COMMMENTRY (THE WORD OF THE SCHOLARS)
  • I THOUGHT GOD WANTS US TO BELIEVE WITH CHILD LIKE FAITH.
  • MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS BIBLE WILL SOON REPLACE THE OLD BIBLE & OUR FUTURE FAITH IS IN DANGER.THEY TOO WILL BELIEVE IN OTHER FAITHS AS IT IS FOUND IN THE BIBLE & OUR HINDU FRIENDS WILL CERTAINLY SAY THAT GITA IS ALSO MENTIONED IN YOUR BIBLE.THEY WILL NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT THE ORIGINAL BIBLE. THIS IS MADE I FEEL TO PLEASE OUR HINDU FRIENDS.
  • WHEN FACED WITH DIFFICULTIES & I LOOK OUT FOR SOLUTIONS IN THIS BIBLE I WILL FIND REFERENCE FROM OTHER BOOKS. THEN WHY LOOK OUT FOR SOLUTIONS IN THE BIBLE WHEN SIMILAR VALUES CAN BE FOUND IN GITA….ETC.(PG.317)
  • I HENCE EARNESTLY REQUEST YOU TO RECONSIDER THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK.IT CAN BE CALLED ANYTHING ELSE, BUT SURELY NOT THE BIBLE.
  • As this bible will surely be misunderstood by the comman man and especially by the younger generation and will in the long run ruin the faith that was passed down to us since last 2000 yrs.
  • THERE CANNOT BE BIBLE FOR INDIA, BIBLE IS FOR THE WHOLE WORLD.
  • THIS TO ME SEEMS TO BE A HINDU BIBLE.
  • THERE WILL BE MANY WHO READ THE BIBLE BUT NEVER FOLLOW .SO WHAT’S THE POINT IN ADDING HINDU TEACHINGS IN THE BIBLE SIMPLY TO INVITE OUR NON CHRISTIAN FRIENDS TO READ IT. OUR LIFE SHOULD BE THE BIBLE FOR THE NON-CHRISTIANS.OUR LIFE SHOULD ATTRACT THEM TO JESUS.

MRS. JULIANA D’SOUZA, 12/A NAPIER ROAD, PUNE 40. 9763880378. 02026363985.

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:05 PM

Subject: new site for community bible complaint

Dear Michael, Praised be Jesus & Mary, Now and forever.

I am glad to inform you that the priest who supported my view has opened this new id for any complaints against the community bible. He has a few holy priests like him along with some scholars who are working on this issue & will soon approach the bishop of pune to ask him for an explanation & to prove that this bible cannot be called bible. I request you to forward the complaints that U have recd. & also your view about this bible. I was also informed by the same reliable source that the bp of pune mentioned this issue during a meeting & asked them for their opinion. so if possible pl.send all d complaints to the foll.id.  response2communitybible@gmail.com Thanks. Godbless. Juliana D’souza

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:
response2communitybible@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:26 PM

Subject: complaint against comm. bible

Praised be Jesus & Mary, Now and forever,

To whomsoever it may concern,

I, Mrs. Juliana D’souza, would like to congratulate all those who were instrumental in opening this site for the complaints that many lay people & prayer group leaders have against this so called bible. I have already send my complaint to rev. Bishop of pune, vasai & also to rev. Agnelo Gracias, St.Paul publications, Mumbai…etc. I have not yet recd.any explanation from any of the above source as yet, but the prayer grp.leaders whom I have contacted have agreed with my view & have informed me that there are many like me who are disturbed by the way the bible, “The word of God” has been interpreted with the help of ref.from Non-Christian religions. As for me, The Bible being the ultimate source af all knowledge & wisdom, there is no place for ref. from any other religion & at least not in the bible. SO THIIS BOOK CANNOT BE CALLED BIBLE.

 

 

 

 

I am terribly disturbed by the way Hindu teachings have entered our Holy Book. The sanctity of the bible has been destroyed by the ref.of Krishna, Narada.. Pgs 317, the mantras pg.877………

I strongly believe that these writers & promoters of this bible will be answerable to God for putting the faith of our future generation at stake. Rev.22:18, 19 anyone adds or takes away anything from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from him share of the fruit of the tree of life. I feel the sanctity of the word of God has been taken away. Pl.refer to the attachment to understand what I mean.I have mentioned a few pgs.in that attachmemt. I have forwarded the same to the bp. of pune & Mumbai.

I strongly feel that our very foundation of our faith is shaken by the way the Pentateuch has been interpreted; it is referred to as a myth, fanciful story…Pg 12, 13, 14… All this will surely confuse the common man, if not the scholars & we’ll soon start believing that these facts were only crafted a new & have no scientific proof… Pg.101, Cain & Abel not a historical account… pg.17…manna in the desert… prefigurement..pg.117, the parting of waters… used for box office effect… pg.113…verse 37 figures look fabulous like many other nos. in O.T., is either a liturgical hyperbole….pg.109. All such interpretations make us believe that all this cannot be taken literally & so was not inspired by the Holy Spirit. In fact the other religious teachings have been stressed with so much conviction that they seem to be more true than the bible itself.

Let me mention that not all the books given in this bible have ref. from Hindu mythology. Eg. Ezra & Nehemiah by Fr. George D’souza has no such ref.

I feel that this bible should be minutely scrutinised by all those who feel that Bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit & those who believe it to be the word of God & to be True. For Satan will definitely try to defend. For it is said, “All the deceits of evil will then be used for the ruin of those who refused to love the truth and be saved.this is why God is sending them a power of delusion so that they may believe what is false…2Thess.2;10,11.”

Looking forward to a fruitful outcome.I will be praying for all those who will fight to uphold the sanctity of “THE BIBLE”. WISH YOU JESUS & HIS HOLY SPIRIT & THE PRESENCE OF THE ALMIGHTY FATHER AS YOU TAKE UP THIS NOBLE & JUST CAUSE.FOR IT IS SAID,” ANY ONE WHO DOES NOT STAY WITH THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST & GOES BEYOND IT,DOES NOT HAVE GOD.WHOEVER STAY WITH THE TEACHING HAS BOTH FATHER & THE SON.”...2JOHN: 9

IN JESUS, YOUR TRULY, JULIANA. P.S. I WILL BE FORWARDING THIS ID TO MANY OTHERS.

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:

michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:04 PM

Subject: JESUS BE WITH YOU. GO AHEAD.

Dear Michael, I HAVE GONE THROUGH YOUR RESPONSE TO THE BIBLE. IT IS EXCELLENT. OF COURSE CERTAIN THINGS WERE BEYOND MY UNDERSTANDING,
BUT THIS I KNOW FOR SURE THAT JESUS IS WITH YOU & YOUR ARGUMENTS CAN CHALLENGE ANY SCHOLAR & I’M SURE IT WILL PUT THEM TO SHAME.
YOU ARE INDEED GOD’S GIFT & JESUS MUST BE SO PROUD OF YOU.
I AM WITH YOU IN PRAYER & WILL CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR YOU & YOUR GOOD WORK.
GO AHEAD,
WE ARE WITH YOU.
WITH JESUS ON OUR SIDE, WHO CAN BE AGAINST US? THANKS FOR TAKING UP THIS CAUSE.
JESUS LOVES YOU. YOUR SISTER IN JESUS, JULIANA.

From:
aishwarya_ent@vsnl.net
To:

michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:23 PM Subject: e-mail ids.

I have just sent my responses to these two papers. The ids are as follows feedback.age@gmail.com and editfeedback@indiatimes.com

To, the editor, The Age, Mumbai

This is in response to the article Secular or sacrilege? The Age, Mumbai, Saturday, 19th July, 2008. 

DEFINITELY A SACRILEGE

It’s shocking and a shame to find such disguised pictures of Jesus, Mary and Joseph in this newly released Bible. The Bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit and is our Sacred Scriptures. I fully agree with Fr. Rocky Vaz (The Age, Mumbai, Sat.19th July edition) that The Bible being the Holy Book of Christians, should be interpreted purely in catholic terms. There cannot be reference to any other culture or religious scriptures in the Bible. we look up to our priests, Bishops and Archbishops to safeguard what is sacred in our religion.

If St. Joseph can be depicted in a dhoti, we would like to see these scholars, priests & bishops who promote the sale of this Bible in a dhoti & that too without a kurta as Fr. Tony Charanghat said,” You cannot communicate if you do not communicate in the culture of the people.” (Pune Mirror, Fri. 11th July edition of The Times Of India)

Let me bring it to the notice of Fr. Augustine Kanachikuzhy that there are not just five or a few people who are offended but hundreds & thousands like me who are desperately trying to contact these leaders & wanting our voice to be heard And today I thank, “The Age, Mumbai” for carrying our message to them. We are offended and so are our sentiments hurt. We have spent sleepless nights & have sent emails to all these priests & Bishops and when we did not get an answer we had to adopt this golden means.

How can they say that there is no one who is up in arms against this Bible when My friends & I have sent e-mails to all these leaders & are yet waiting & hoping that some action would be taken. We are hurt & worried about the future of our Catholic Church. We do not agree that there is no reason for concern. There is definitely a lot of reasons for concern, besides just the pictures, for the commentary is totally antichristian. This is total distortion of the faith & the sin of all the people who have bought this book and might think that there is nothing wrong with the book will be on their heads, for they blindly believe their leaders. I would like to quote Malachi Ch 2 vs.7 & 8, “It is the duty of the priests to teach the true knowledge of god.” I challenge these leaders to just wait and watch.

 

 

 

 

Fr. Anthony Charanghat calls us narrow minded & orthodox, may be we are and we will not rest till this book is banned or the commentary removed or the name changed, if needs be we shall take this matter to Rome. I hope Dolphy D’souza president of the Bombay Catholic Sabha who feels this book to be a supplement to the thinking process & feels that at the end of the day the methodology will have to be clear to be prepared to give an explanation to the Creator too.

(The Age, Mumbai) As Fr. Augustine feels that this book will promote inter-religious dialogue, it means they agree that it is an inter-religious book then how dare they call it, The Bible?

God Bless, Juliana D’Souza, Pune

PUBLISHED IN THE ASIAN AGE, MUMBAI, JULY 24, 2008 [except for the portions in red]

 

From:
lucio.mascarenhas@gmail.com
To:
johnmenezesin@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2008 Subject: The Pagan Bible

Dear Mr. Menezes,   

Yes I did see the article on the Pagan Bible of the Fake Catholic Church, which is New Protestantism, and intend to write on the subject when time permits.  You get the credit for posting first.  The picture of the Hindu bhatjee Anthony Charanghat is not of much use, however.  I would love a picture of Parambhatjee Sri Sri Oswaldacharya Graciousnathjee praying to his devils, Ganapati, Hanuman, etc.  Christians, however, should protest against the injustice of the Fake Catholic Church’s Fake Pope not apologizing to the ancient Canaanites, Amorites, Amalekites, Philistines, etc. for the Old Testament waging war on them, and for not having first produced a Bible that suitably rehabilitated them and their demons, Baal, Chemosh, Kenaan, Beelzebub, Dagun, Astarte, etc. 

This omission is a grave injustice, and constitutes dishonesty on the part of the Fake Catholic Church. Regards, Lucio

Lúcio Mascarenhas, Bombay, East Indies, Secretary for Correspondence to His Holiness Michael I, by the Grace of God, Pope <http://lucius-caesar.livejournal.com/>.

[This letter is from a traditionalist Lucio Mascarenhas to another traditionalist John Menezes, copied to a Catholic friend of theirs who forwarded it to me. No traditionalist will ever accept the NCB.]

 

From:
mariza_ferrao

To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re:
THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Hi Michael, I had the Christian Community Bible and I remember when I sent a mail to A… last year.

He suggested the bibles that should be used and Community Bible was not on the list, and so as soon as I got an opportunity I bought the New American Bible.

So I know that the Community Bible should not be used. I have also told others not to use it. The other day my Prayer group leader wanted to buy the NCB for her daughter and I told her not to buy it.

There is a problem with the commentaries and hence it should not be used, I think. Regards Mariza

From:
mariza_ferrao

To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: NEW AGE BIBLE? THE NEWLY RELEASED NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Hi Michael, Sorry i didn’t reply to this mail earlier….I would like to:

If you wish to support this initiative, please do write in.

Would you be interested in joining a signature campaign against this book? – Yes

I was reading the document you sent yesterday on NCB. Very sad to see all that is put in. Even earlier I decided not to recommend this Bible to anyone and now it is become all the more firm decision and also to tell what is in it for those who want to buy and who have already brought. Regards Mariza Ferrao MUMBAI

 

From:
kamath v
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:19 AM

Subject: Re: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE (NCB)

Hi Michael, I just came back on July 1st and wanted to thank you for the books to help me prepare for my teaching… [overseas]. Regarding the bible, my opinion is the best bible is only the RSV version (not NRSV) and all these new variants have often ended up losing more than giving more. However I cant speak definitely about this one as I havent seen it yet.

COMPLETING SEMINARY STUDIES

 

From:
PRIEST. NAME WITHHELD
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:38 PM

Subject: Re: THE LATEST CATHOLIC COMMENTS ON CERTAIN NEW AGE PRACTICES

Another New Age stuff which i am concerned about and promoted by the Bishops: so called “Community Bible” by St Pauls… Can it be called a Bible???? 

From:
PRIEST. NAME WITHHELD
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:50 AM Subject: Re: CONFIDENTIAL

My dear Michael, I appreciate ur quick actions and immediate act to co ordinate efforts. Here are some questions I have prepared quickly and if answered through some research could shed much light on the so-called NCB… Thanks 

Do we need a Bible that communicates details of other religion?

What is the subtle message introduced both in the paintings (see the first painting) and in the text?

Who are these Biblical Scholars and their standing? Are all of them Christian in their mindset?

Was it a wise decision on the part of the pastors to introduce it to lay peoples who are already saddled with false teachings from all sides?

Do we equate nature religion with revealed religion?

 

 

What about non-religious writings that does not belong to the realm of popular religions, why were they not included?

Can you use the word Bible which is now customarily understood as the Word of God with explicit OT and NT texts?

As one goes into the depth of the so called NCB one will find fallacies and interpretations and equating of Biblical texts to non- Christian texts.

I am also enclosing the letter I sent to the Synod Assembly Secretary. No reply.

Even sent to Cardinal Toppo by email but no reply!

Suggestion for the forthcoming Synod on the Word of God

As the Synod on the Word of God comes up, I too thought of taking the liberty of making my own contribution to the Synod. I am an ordinary priest in the Archdiocese of Bombay through the special blessing of God and through the intervention of Cardinal Ivan Dias the now Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of Faith. I also conduct a practical retreat programme aimed at developing in individuals the disciplines to walk in constant discernment and God’s holy grace.

The New approach to God’s Word

The Word of God is treated with much more reverence and literalness in the Catholic Church. This reality has never filtered down to the faithful even after Dei Verbum and other post Conciliar efforts in this direction. We have the truth in a measure far greater than the others and this reality is made visible in our liturgical celebrations. Yet to the majority it is still a mystery. A diagnosis shows us that the fault must be in the system of filtration: the hierarchy and the clergy which is not equipped fully to filter the truths of the Word of God, to the laity, which is so richly present in our liturgy.

We give reverence to the Word of God and even stand with all acclamation to receive the Good News of Salvation during Eucharistic celebrations. There is the great emphasis at our Agape on the breaking of the Word of God and as if to complete this reality we unlike most of our separated brethrens believe that when the Word of God is proclaimed by His anointed ones to the bread and cup of wine it becomes the body and blood, the soul and divinity of our beloved Lord and Saviour – the seeds of expectant faith! Yet the reality in practice is the other way. The Protestants dwell more on the Word and have more of the expectant faith than we Catholics. Where is the fault? I believe the flaw is in the filtration system – the hierarchy, the clergy, yet I do not blame them as individuals because the flaw is in the system that produces this arrangement, i.e. our houses of formation – the seminaries.

Primarily, our attitude towards God’s Word is more rational at the ordinary level, so much so that the divine is often neglected in our actions. This above statement if understood, corrected and acted upon, then there could be a tremendous transformation in the Catholic Church. For example, there are priests who have shared how they have stopped or discouraged people from simultaneously reading the Word from their pocket lectionary when the Word of God was being read. Their reason: “God’s Word should not be read privately when it is proclaimed aloud within the Eucharistic celebration. It should be heard rather than read” This I believe is a serious fallacy which needs to be urgently corrected.

It is true that God’s Word is to be heard, for the Scripture itself exhorts us thus; “Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the Word of Christ (Reematos Christou).” Rom 10:17(NIV). (The Synod fathers
could dwell on this Word from scripture)

I believe this message is not understood in the way it is to be understood. God’s Word comes to us through a human instrument (in the language of men). When it is said that faith cometh by hearing, it is not that all who hear actually believe, There can be proclamation and preaching and reading and yet it is an empirical fact that they do not always create faith. Even the scripture is replete with examples of nations rejecting the message proclaimed to them even by God’s anointed servants.

What then is the missing factor? Where then is the flaw? The scripture clearly tell us that it has to be the message of Christ (Reematos Christou). i.e. even though we may listen to a speaker or preacher or a reader we will yet never have that faith if we don’t listen to the message of Christ in our hearts – a separate listening! One person, two ears hearing two different sources: one ear listens to the human message and the other ear listens to the Reematos Christou! The second ear opens up despite the first and it opens up all the more if there is the anointing of Christ in the message and in the environment. It still seems as if the whole thing is dependant on the human instrument but at the same time one should not forget the divine role in gifting us with that great gift of faith to believe in the message.

When there is this humility then NO preacher will ever think of stopping any one in the pews from reading their pocket lectionary and following the readings at Mass. What is more we would even be encouraging it – our bright model Church of the future. This is an important understanding; it can change the face of the Church of God and the Catholic attitude to God’s Word even in our seminary formation.

From a situation of mere external reverence it will bring God’s Word to the internal realm of our liturgical celebrations and life. By proclaiming and developing the passivity of listening we will have an active laity bringing their Bibles and pocket lectionaries for a Eucharistic celebration rather than be mere passives and many a times distracted listeners. We will recognize that their efforts to prayerfully read God’s Word diligently in any situation will help them to listen to the Reematos Christou.

Belief in the Reematos Christou will open the flood gates of signs and wonders in the Church, the foundation of which already exists with our belief in the Eucharistic process and presence. If signs and wonders exist, then witnessing by deeds (not just in behaviour patterns and good character and fruit of the Spirit) will be powerful. As we see in the witness of Christ to John the Baptist: “Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?” Jesus replied, “Go back and report to John what you hear and see: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor. Blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me.” Matt 11:3-6

 

 

 

How can this be a reality in the Catholic Church? The right diagnoses leads to right medications. It is orthodoxy that leads to orthopraxis. There is a need to have a serious relook at the formation of our future priests. Especially the first few and the last years should be spent in a proper grounding in Scripture based on a prayerful approach rather than an intellectual approach. The primary purpose of such a formation should be aimed at developing in the individuals an attitude of expectant faith in the Reematos Christou rather than an intellectual scientific approach, abstract and far removed from reality. The training should be in contemplation on God’s Word (Lectio Divina) whereby one grows in listening to the voice of God through the medium/vehicle of Scripture. In the absence of this aspect God’s Word could be even misleading rather than lead to faith. “You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me; yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life”. John 5:39-40 (RSV). Their refusal is due to their absence of expectant faith even though they have been experts in God’s Word.

Let me reiterate, at present the whole training in Scripture is abstract intellectual and intangible, far removed from the reality of life. At times there is more isogesis than exegesis. That too this training comes about in most seminaries in spurts and a major part of it is after studying philosophy. This is as if to say that our intellect will be much sharpened to understand scriptures and theology after we have studied philosophy.

This I am convinced is a wrong approach to the whole dynamics of our faith. It is our carnal mind which first needs to be formed and molded i.e. enlightened in that faith which comes through the Word of God (Romans 12:2, 2Tim.3:15-17). Then transformed and renewed through God’s Word, we will be able to reach that peak of intellect which enables us to understand even the depth of the mystery of God and the lacunae in every human intellect and philosophies. “The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: “For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.” 1 Cor 2:14-16. Faith and reason here are not two parallels, they are not on the same footing, it is faith which is the ultimate and what is required and necessary if reason follows then it is well and good if not we will still find our salvation through the servile obedience of faith. “Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith”. Rom 1:5 “For in the gospel righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: The righteous will live by faith.” Rom 1:17 (Romans 3:22, 28; Gal.3:8). This affirmation of faith over reason is also strongly advocated in ‘Fides et Ratio’.

It is not knowledge that will save us as we stand before kings and governors but our dependence on God; not knowledge through learning but wisdom which scripture points as divine gift for those who fear him (Ps.111:10, Pr.1:7). Therefore, faith is that firm foundation, the rock on which Christ has built his church and if we don’t build on this foundation then it will crumble and disintegrate. This in no way will compromise the Catholic faith but rather will make it much more vibrant and scripture based. Our clergy will be able to argue about the faith with the Protestant and even present the faith to the masses with the Bible as the basis and may never find themselves lacking or diffident in presenting a defense of their faith. We today have a clergy that shies away from proclaiming God’s Word and are more comfortable in proclaiming a message that has an apparent sense of spirituality but in its depth is more worldly and unspiritual.

What is more this familiarity with scripture will even boost ecumenism since the Bible is used as a basis by almost all the churches. Except for us and some communities it is not going to be sola Scriptura. There will be a re-emphasis on the use of the rich tradition the Catholic church exists in and a constant reference to magisterium.

Let’s look at the problem the other way; I am being empirical and situational; for any individual the most beautiful, ordinary and easy means at their disposal to have an access to the faith is the Bible. This holds true all the more for our separated brethren, especially in the new religious movements spreading across the world. Here again if we through our seminary training and formation develop a familiarity and approach through the Bible then we shall have priests who will be not only priests of expectant faith but will be able to reach out to people at their most ordinary level. The future Church of God will have liturgical celebrations with a laity carrying their Bibles even to Church.

Also, we look at scripture as Canonical – a sure doctrine and so too experience teaches us that God speaks best especially to a confused soul through a base foundation or else scripture in itself can mislead or we could be misleading ourselves much more easily without basing ourselves on the foundations which Christ has laid. The contemplation method of the early Church fathers and such greats as St. Ignatius and St. Francis de Sales recommends the scripture as a base foundation for contemplation. This again should encourage us enough to take this step to move in a direction in learning all our theology from the standpoint of the Word of God. In other words most of theology is supported by God’s Word hence the methodology should be that of approaching it through God’s Word.

This approach could even change the quality of sermons as they would be based on God’s Word and at the same time the priests will speak a universal language of the scripture which would be understood by all who have read and heard God’s Word. Then there will be a true breaking of God’s Word. He will also be well versed with the contemplative method in preparing his sermon and hence will not be overtly dependant on already prepared sermons of others.

The need for a radical change in the Church is urgent and it should be brought about with a strong catechesis based on God’s Word. I am convinced that if these changes are implemented in our formation houses it will have a cascading effect in the church. The trend of people leaving the church even en masse in some countries could be reversed. For we have the truth based and supported by a strong traditare.

 

 

 

 

I believe this Synod on the Word of God is a beautiful opportunity for the Church to renew itself in a new and dynamic way. This renewal which is suggested is not new but has already existed in some measure before Trent. Hence we will once again be drawing from a tradition which is Catholic.

I deeply appreciate Pope Benedict’s XVI priorities and commitments for the Church of God ever since he has taken over the reigns. SIGNATURE OF PRIEST WITH ADDRESS, MUMBAI

From:
PRIEST. NAME WITHHELD
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:22 AM Subject: Re: MOST URGENT

Here below the Illustration page http://stpaulsncb.com/pages/Illustrations.html

The first illustration [from the NCB] clearly communicates the scandal and the mindset: As if all religions are the same

From:
PRIEST. NAME WITHHELD To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:55 AM

Subject: Re: LETTERS TO THE NEWSPAPERS

Dear Michael, As I go through all the letters and efforts of individuals like you who in keeping with their particular gifts and talent, it makes me rejoice that the laity is come of age.

Since I am alone in the parish till tomorrow we have the Paulist fathers coming to help us out in the celebrations of the Eucharist… I had a long chat with one Fr. … SSP, and was able to communicate much about the NCB and the need to listen to the voice of the laity. I am glad to say that this dialogue with him has had a positive impact on him. I also communicated to him about the New Age books published by St. Pauls and how it was disgusting to see them being promoted.

Since I had shown my appreciation of Fr.. Anselm Poovathani, he shared with me today of how he is so strongly with the Mother Church in his thinking even today.

Plz. keep up the good work even as i pray for u and all your warriors under the banner of Christ!

From:
PRIEST. NAME WITHHELD To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:34 PM

Subject: NCB= New Controversial Bible / Bp. Valerian

Fr. ZZZ ssp also said a similar thing [as Bp. Valerian about the laity protesting because of their “lack of biblical scholarship”] when he told me that some lay people have protested. I told him in no uncertain terms that they could sense things better. I think it is the pride of Bishops at stake who have given too much credence to Biblical scholoarship. What one sows that one reaps. Many of these biblical scholars are so loaded that what we have through their scholarship is their particular mindset that is hostile, puffed up and is manipulative and power hungry. Woe!…….. Now the loyalists will be in the forefront, not Church loyalists but power-hungry loyalists to defend the Bishops even at the cost of the sheep.

 

TRANSCRIPTS OF HANDWRITTEN LETTERS RECEIVED BY THIS MINISTRY

24th August 2008

Dear Friend Michael,

Thanks and congrats for the article on the New Community Bible.

NCB is another nail on the coffin of the Church in India, driven by the God-appointed guardians of the Faith. It is all in line with what has been going on in Tamil Nadu.

In a Bible commentary, to use the word ‘similarly’ in referring to the writings of another religion is nothing but a betrayal of the uniqueness of Christ and His Church.

Well, all human means have to be used in fighting this ongoing destruction of Faith from within. But human means will not suffice. The devil is cast out only by prayers and penance.

May the Lord have mercy on us all. Yours in Our Lord Jesus Christ

Fr. P. K. George SJ., St. Therese Convent, SHORANUR, KERALA 679 121

 

The New Community Bible has comparisons with Hindu scriptures which is highly condemnable. Unity could be stressed in practical life but not in this way. For Christians, the Hindu scriptures are mere myths with no historical background. People considered kings and great men as their gods, even saviours. Christians believe in One God and His Son Jesus Christ, and comparing his Words [the Word of God] to any other could never be acceptable.

Kindly make necessary revisions in the New Communuity Bible, or withdraw it.

Vimalda Blaisy, St. Patrick’s School, CHENNAI 600 020

 

We are an orthodox Catholic family and we believe that our Holy Bible is God’s holy Word for us. This Word has been tampered with and we have none other to blame than our own shepherds and teachers. In sorrow,

Mrs. E. Scurville, St. Patrick’s School, CHENNAI 600 020

 

This Bible has so many comparisons to Hindu scriptures. How can biblical figures and events be compared to Hindu idols and myths. This so-called Bible will confuse our youth, so we demand that it be withdrawn from circulation.

Christina, St. Patrick’s School, CHENNAI 600 020

 

A great blunder has been made by the priests who have published this new edition of the Bible which compares our living God with Hindu mythical deities. I am definitely against it. Our God is the only God to be worshipped and no idols should be compared to Him. Kindly remove this offending Bible which will be a source of spiritual corruption.

Eugena Veena, St. Patrick’s School, CHENNAI 600 020

 

My family and I are shocked that some priests have dared to give their own personal interpretations of events in the Bible.

This will bring down the wrath of God upon us. Satan has entered the Church through our own shepherds.

Jessy A.R., St. Patrick’s School, CHENNAI 600 020

 

My family and I strongly feel that what our Church leaders have done is wrong. When Our Lady spoke in her apparitions, she said that we should pray for our priests. We did not think that it was that serious because we believe that our priests are holy. But they seem to be having feet of clay. We pray that action is taken and this so-called Bible is withdrawn before the poison spreads. Mrs. Catherine, St. Patrick’s School, CHENNAI 600 020

 

We as a family totally condemn the fairy-tale Bible that our priests have invented. We boldly call for it to be withdrawn from circulation. We hope that our youth do not lay hands on this Bible and further confuse their understanding of the Word of God by reading its commentaries. Mrs. Swittens, St. Patrick’s School, CHENNAI 600 020

 

I was really shocked when I read this Bible. Our religion is a unique one and there can be no good for it to be compared with Hinduism. I am strongly against this New Community Bible. Dennila Nancy R., St. Patrick’s School, CHENNAI

 

My family and I disapprove of the new “Bible” and we are totally upset. How can anyone, more so our priests, have dared to compare our Scriptures with any other religious literature? What is the Catholic Church coming to? Please for Christ’s sake withdraw this “Bible” from circulation. Chitra Babu,
St. Patrick’s School, CHENNAI 600 020

 

The following seven letters of September 2008 are addressed to the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India:

Withdrawal of the NCB

This is written to strongly object to the printing/circulation by the Society of St Paul, of the NCB. How can you call the book a Bible with the inclusion of Hindu slokas…? Would the Hindus include verses from the Bible in their Bhagawad Gita?

Please do not carry out this obscenity in the name of ‘Indianisation’.

Cecilia Rangaswami, c/o 51 St. Mary’s Road, CHENNAI 600 018

 

Immediate withdrawal of the NCB

Please note that our traditional Bibles have served us well for decades. There was definitely no requirement of so-called theologians wasting 18 years of precious time which could have been spent in preaching the Good News of Jesus Christ.

Please do not waste any more time dilly-dallying on the important issue at hand – to immediately withdraw this useless and definitely unnecessary and corrupt version of the Truth!!

Patricia Emmanuel, 61 St. Mary’s Road, CHENNAI 600 018

 

The New Community Bible

Please note that a Bible should be like The Bible and the Good News mixed with the bad! Is there any need for commentaries finding similarities and comparisons with other religions? There is definitely no need for this. We prefer our Bible to remain the traditional Good News that Jesus Christ wants us to spread! Please do the needful to let this remain so.

Shirley Emmanuel, 60 St. Mary’s Road, CHENNAI 600 018

 

Withdrawal of the NCB

Please note that we do not at all appreciate the above publication by the Society of St Paul. We would be most grateful if they are taken off the shelves and totally withdrawn from circulation. Do not offend Our Dear Lord more than He is already being offended. This book cannot even be called a Bible! Thanking you in anticipation of your quick and complete withdrawal of the New Community “Bible”. Mary Doss, 63 St. Mary’s Road, CHENNAI 600 018

 

Protest against the NCB

Please organize this obnoxious version of the Bible. This has no relevance or requirement to anyone in particular. The Bible versions that we have available to us are more than sufficient to really fulfill our spiritual needs! Would appreciate immediate action in the matter and please confirm to Catholics all over India and abroad that the NCB has been withdrawn.

Rita O’Connor, St. Mary’s Road, CHENNAI 600 018

 

The New Community Bible

This letter is to strongly protest against the publication of the so-called New Community Bible. Please see that it is withdrawn from sale immediately! What was the need for publishing this atrocious edition? The Bible is supposed to be Good News, but this version is downright BAD news. Jane D’Souza, J-60 R K Nagar M.I.G. Flats, CHENNAI 600 028

 

The New Community Bible – St Pauls Society

This is to request immediate and complete withdrawal of the New Community “Bible” published by St Pauls Society. In this Pauline Year, we take strong objection to this strange and in fact altogether unnecessary version of our Bible.

If the excuse is that we can so attract our Hindu brethren to our fold, our God has His own way of calling souls. Our existing Bibles have well served that purpose and will continue to do so…

Margaret Balasubramaniam, K-11 Turnbulls Road, Nandanam, CHENNAI 600 035

 

 

 

Dear Mike, I thank God for people like you. It goes to show that we are not alone in our battles with our so-called Christian brethren. It reminds me of Elijah who was complaining to God that he was alone in his fight with Ahab and Jezebel. Then God shows him that he has reserved 7000 in Israel whose knees have not bowed to Baal (1 Kings 19:14-18).

We are the privileged few who keep the orthodoxy of the Bible and are hence called ‘fundamentalists’. I prefer to be called a fundamentalist than to be called a pervert or a prostitute which they call us names are biblically doing.

Some new ‘Catholic’ beliefs are:

They do not believe that God created the heavens and the earth; they prefer Darwin’s theory or some other nonsense.

They do not believe that Jonah could have been swallowed by a whale.

They do not believed in Jesus’ actual multiplication of the loaves and fish.

I really don’t expect much from our Indian Catholic Church. The Glory of God has gone and its going to get worse.

Today, the commentaries. Tomorrow, the Scriptures themselves will be changed.

I am reminded of the parable of the tares, where God says, “Let both grow together until the harvest.” (Mt. 13: 24-30)

I am writing not to discourage you, but rather to support your ministry in any way I can. I admire your guts to go on in spite of all opposition. God bless you and more strength to your arm.

I don’t know if you remember that once we were discussing about Bishop Dabre in Bangalore. You kept telling me that he has changed. Look whose ‘Nihil Obstat’ is on the NCB. That man knows more of Sant Tukaram than he knows of Jesus.

The Catholic hierarchy still wants the laity to pray, pay and keep their mouth shut. All that show of wanting the laity to come forward participate is nonsense. They want the laity only to come forward and work for no pay in the name of God.

Most of our laity do not want to bell the cat. They prefer either to sit on the fence or have nothing to do with the Church.

Most of them hardly know the Bible and are not willing to listen to those who know it.

They remind me of the time when the people of Israel told Moses to go and listen to God and bring back His Word to them, while they stayed far away from God. But our priests are not Moses and yet our people hold them in such esteem as if they were the Lord Himself.

In the seminary, we find a lot of white-washing going on. I remember at the Goregaon Seminary they had allowed the Jains to have their rituals, bhajans. The priests were having a whale of a time while the rich Jains came in their cars…

I also remember the Church in Bangalore where we attended Mass used to have all the Gentile icons. How I would have loved to puke! I was talking to one of the seminarians there about the uniqueness of Jesus, but he was totally white-washed, he was shaking his head vigorously.

No wonder the other denominations call the Catholic Church the ‘whore of Babylon’. I find it very difficult to speak to them proudly of our Church because of the whorings of our Church. But, its nice to know we have the faithful few.

11th August 2008 NAME AND ADDRESS WITHHELD, MUMBAI [EDITED]

 

Letter of Protest against the NCB

Hi Mike, It is good that you are spearheading the protests against the New Community Bible. Let me add my name to the voices that are against it.

I have before me ‘The Examiner’ dated August 16, 2008 where Prof. Rober Castelino from Orlem has called the people who are protesting as “several dyed in the wool Catholics”.

This is how some of our Catholics think:

They cannot understand that Christianity is not just another religion but the Way, the ONLY Way.

They do not understand the uniqueness of Jesus, the only Son of God.

The list can go on and on.

There is no other religion that would adopt from other religions, except our Catholic Church. No other Christian Church would prostitute itself like our Catholic Church.

Maybe it’s the problem with the word ‘Catholic’ which means ‘universal’ where universality has now brought with it also the filth from other religions.

18th August 2008 NAME AND ADDRESS WITHHELD, MUMBAI [EDITED]

 

The first comment is that there is no need for more confusion when most so-called Christians have no clear idea of what it is to be truly Christian. The NCB by introducing comparative references to other Scriptures has done just that.

Christianity believes in only one, true God, and comparison with other deities is blasphemy.

One wonders who to look up to today for guidance with regard to our Faith when even the so-called priests and Bishops are being misled so badly.

Further, the NCB gives new ground for other Christian sects to attack the Catholic Church, the only Church Jesus founded, and draw away many more unsuspecting Catholics to join them.

On no grounds should the NCB be given any grounds to be published in India or abroad. This can only ruin the image and reputation of the one, true Church…

As a minister and evangelist, you have always sto0od for the Truth and exposed the works of darkness as in Ephesians 5:11. Keep up your good work and may the good Lord always guide you…

25th November, 2008 BASIL MENDONZA, CHIKMAGALUR [EDITED]

 

 

 

 

From:
prabhu
To:
bernard.thamm
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:08 AM

Dear Bernhard, Last night I prayed for you before I went to bed. Thank you for the personal sharing…

I shall wait for your decision on your letter on the NCB. I can withhold your name if you so desire… Love, Mike

From:
bernard.thamm
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 8:26 PM

Subject: Re: PRAYING FOR YOU, BERNHARD

Many many thanks, Michael […] About the letter, if it’s just to add my name under it, you may do so. Under my name you could also add: Bernhard Thamm Parish Council, St. Hildegard BREMEN, GERMANY

 

MORE EMAILS ON THE NCB…

Letters received in response to emails sent by me on the subjects of (i) the CCBI Plenary in Mysore, Theme: ‘The Word of God…’ (ii) the comments of in reply to the above, of Fr. George Plathottam, SDB., Executive Secretary of a CBCI Commission and on our crusade to have the NCB withdrawn (iii) the Annunciation of the angel Gabriel to Mary explained in the NCB as not a real literal event but an “inner experience” of Mary (iv) a French theologian’s criticism of the NCB (v) similar problems with the New Tamil Missal & New Tamil Bible:

From:
leila aranha
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:36 PM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, Thanks for your e-mails. Hope and pray that the CBCI meet in Mysore will address the issue of the new age bible and do the needful. It is such a shame that bishops themselves are leading the flock astray.

… with a prayer that God will enable you to continue your ministry with good health and wisdom…Please do take your time to compose the prayer {against New Age error} that I have asked you to. And do take care of your health.

Love and God bless Leila Aranha LONDON, UK

 

From:
Fr. Joseph Vas
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, thank you for the copy of the letter to the Internuncio. God bless you praying for the cause

Yours in the Divine Word, Fr. Juze Vaz SVD INDORE

 

From: mauriced’almeida
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, Well done again! Keep it Up.  God is with you.  He will bless you with health and strength and power of the Holy Spirit so that you may fight this evil which is creeping in slowly with its poisonous stings.  What is left in our faith if some of our Clergy and some Bishops compromise the truth and lead the flock astray, who are supposed to be guardians? Your brother in Jesus Maurice D’ Almeida DUBAI, UAE

 

From: juliusbarretto
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc:
agnelog@rediffmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: Comments regarding the NCB

Dear Mike, Sorry to read the contents of the mail sent to you by his lordship, Bishop Agnelo Gracias.
You must never be discouraged by all this, the evil one is at play through these people. When we build our confidence in them I know one does get disappointed. Nevertheless, we stand by you in our fight against the NCB. 
I am interested to know as to what makes our bosses so adamant to have this publication out.  We have our good old Bibles, doing us real good.  And so many are surprised to see such stuff published.  I am in touch with so many youth in our diocese, and they are all so confused.  They are our future Catholics and this is what we give them.

Come what may, we will fight to the very end and victory will be ours.  We are all in the habit of sitting tight all along, but not now. I am ready to face the consequences. Tolerance has a limit and we have been done with it.
Have the Holy Spirit move into the churches and see results.  No charisms are used… Ask them to read Exodus 23:13.
Nothing surprises me on the comments made by Fr Tony Charanghat.  Same boat!
Will keep in touch. Warm Regards, Julius Barretto PUNE

 

From:
Fr. James Manjackal
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:27 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

My son, I am reading all your emails. I praise God for your patience with all these people and your courage to speak the truth powerfully. How are you? How is your health? I am well. Last night I came back from the Gulf after preaching to the Muslims. My love and blessings Fr James Manjackal MSFS., MUNICH, GERMANY

 

From:
pamela mathias
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:13 AM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Hi Michael Thanks for the msg. Do let us know if you receive a reply…. Love & Blessings Pamela SYDNEY AUSTRALIA

 

From:
Fr. Aymanathil Jose
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:59 AM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michael, Keep up good effort. We must see that the commentary be removed from the NCB.

God Bless! Fr. Jose Aymanathil SDB., KOLKATA

 

 

 

From: binny john
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM

Subject: RE: THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY: NCB

Hi Br. Prabhu, Keep up the prophetic work that you are doing.

It is no wonder that Catholics are leaving in the droves to Pentecostalism, and Latin America will soon be the headquarters of the Pentecostal /Evangelical alliance, precisely because critical doctrinal deviations are sometimes not dealt with, as is needed, quickly.

Maybe, God is breaking, what is called as the ‘Catholic pride’ reflected in the words of the Jews to Jesus, who said, ‘we are the descendents of Abraham’. To which, Jesus replied, ‘God can raised up descendents of Abraham from these very stones’.

Today, whether we like it or not (or even understand), God has raised the Pentecostal movement from these very stones (insignificant people), and endowed them with ‘power from on High’.

Please pass these comments of mine, to those who need to hear this, coming from a concerned Catholic, but one who believes that even though God has made the Catholic Church the foundational Church, He is not inexplicably bound by the Catholic Church (as some members think He is, unfortunately) – He is above and beyond the Catholic Church and can act in His sovereign way, as He deems fit. In fact, you will sometimes find adherence to basic orthodoxy, much more in these Pentecostal churches, when compared to traditional churches.

One last word – even as you engage in this work, keep your internal eye focused on the TRUTH (that never changes or can be diluted, as it is eternally fixed in the heavens)
and not some of the ‘tamasha’ that happens incertain quarters of the Church. This will ensure that your health is not affected, as has been the recent case.

I have advised you on this, on earlier occasions also – not sure, if you have implemented my advice on a day to day basis.

Note: as a prophet, your job is to bring it to the notice of the authorities and your job ceases there (don’t get too worked up – that is affecting your health) – what they do, they are accountable to the LORD.

Best Regards,
Binny John BANGALORE

 

From:
catholic-christian secular forum
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:18 PM

Dear Bro. Michael, Thank you for your prayers & good wishes, which are warmly reciprocated. Kindly be assured that you and your loved ones are in our prayers. We are sure the LORD will be with you, even more powerfully from now on.

In HIM – Joseph Dias
www.thecsf.org
MUMBAI

 

From:
Fr. Aymanathil Jose
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:05 PM

Subject: Re: NCB: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dear Michael, Do not worry! Different people have different ways of expressing views. The merit is in the logic regarding the truth. with best wishes, Fr. Jose Aymanathil SDB., KOLKATA

From:
Fr. Aymanathil Jose

To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:23 PM

Subject: Re: THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY: NCB

Dear Michael, Such opinions are found also in commentaries available to professors and students. So there is a lot of problem regarding exegesis and hermeneutics. One of the 55 propositions drawn up by the Synod is about the problems created by exegetes. The Church has been facing this for a long time. Pope Benedict XVI has also touched upon this in his Book “Jesus of Nazareth”.

About the Annunciation, there is no problem, we have the Angelus prayer and the Feast of the Annunciation to show that the Church is sure about the actual event of the Annunciation.

Anyway bring to the notice of people such errors. with best wishes, Fr. Jose Aymanathil SDB., KOLKATA

 

From:
pamela mathias
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:57 PM

Subject: Re: THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY: NCB

Hi Michael That seems like a good letter that you have written. I do hope you get a reply.

Have been praying for you and Angie. Do hope all is well. Take care Love & God Bless Pamela SYDNEY

 

From:
binny.john
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:38 PM

{Subject: Re: NCB: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT}

Hey Br. Mike, I went through the material (in emails below) and I can gauge your tenacity in the face of extreme provocation and opposition, especially from higher ups.
To be very frank with you, when I see the Gospels where Jesus was with the 12 (simple and straightforward approach) and what we see today – a big hierarchical set-up (which, is a Constantine imported Roman imprint on the early Church), I can understand the ‘pain’ that the clergy feel because they have unconsciously been ingrained with the ‘nobles’ versus ‘common man’ thinking from the Roman set-up.
Again, Protestantism was allowed by God Almighty to shake this set-up, where Christians are made to realize the greatness of their basic calling and then think of the specific roles (that flow from this basic calling), and not the other way around.
So, that’s it mate – many ‘traditions’ that make the word of God ‘null and void’ will soon shake – one is this differentiation between clergy and laity, which we do not see in the Scriptures…
So, that’s the problem – I am being blunt with you, so that you get a better grasp of issues that will help you to understand the broadsides that are thrown against you from the clergy. Rgds, Binny John BANGALORE

 

 

From:
richard mascarenhas
To:
mwgoveas@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:23 PM

Subject: Angel Gabriel – Annunciation

Dear Fr. Michael Goveas, How are you?  I haven’t heard from you since the last time you said you would go through the NCB material I sent.  Here is something specific that I would like to hear from you. 

The commentary on Luke 1 [page1796 of the NCB, right hand column] denies that the angel Gabriel literally appeared and spoke to Mary. The commentator, the late Fr. George Soares Prabhu SJ now teaches Catholics that “The story of the annunciation is not to be read as a literal report of what happened, but as a dramatization of the inner experience of Mary’s call to be the mother of the Messiah.” In effect, he is saying, “The angel Gabriel did not appear to Mary. It was not a real, historical, external event. The Annunciation is just a story explaining how Mary experienced internally the call of God and responded to it.” 

I am eager to learn the truth of my faith.  Reading the NCB, the question that come to me is “Has the Catholic Church all along been fooling the people with false beliefs [like the angel Gabriel appearing to Mary]?”.

Will it be possible to know what actually is the truth?  Christ said “I am the Way the Truth and the Life”.  With the Word of God itself shown as incorrect and unreliable for teaching, Christ himself is now put under the scanner.

Yours in Christ. Richard Mascarenhas MUSCAT

 

From:
kennethdsa
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: CARDINAL RESPONDS TO: “THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY”

Dearest Mike, Great work…Keep it up.  “If God is with you, NO ONE can be against you”! Kenny D’Sa GOA

 

From:
Fr. Aymanathil Jose
To:
prabhu
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: Re: CARDINAL RESPONDS TO: “THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY”

Dear Michael, The Cardinal’s response is good but still to be seen fulfilled. We have to pray that appropriate action is taken. with best wishes, Fr. Jose Aymanathil SDB., KOLKATA

 

From:
Fr. James D’souza
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: How are you?

Hi Michael! Praise the Lord! …You have worked very hard to get that pagan bible out of the bookstores… I have even forgotten the name of that bible? for it is not even worth knowing its name.

Christians with true faith who are faithful to the faith of our fathers will never be bothered about it…

I will be sending you my tithe… You may use the amount for your needs.

Do convey my prayerful wishes to Angela and the boys. God bless you Fr. James D’Souza GOA

 

From:
erikagibello
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Cc:
frrufuspereira Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:52 AM

Subject: Re: CARDINAL RESPONDS TO: “THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL…

Dearest Michael, Praise God for the Cardinal’s answer. I am relieved that he took a stand and hope he will not be ignored or voted down on this on Bishops conference.

The time for evangelisation are getting more urgent with every day. Our time to bring Jesus to the many who do not know him is getting shorter.

I keep you in my prayers and admire your persistency. I am sending all on to Fr. Rufus, who is busy preaching and teaching He will be March 18th in Hyderabad. Love to you both, Erika Gibello LONDON

 

From:
Derrick D’Costa
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: CARDINAL RESPONDS TO: “THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY”

Dear Michael Many congratulations on the response obtained by you from Cardinal Oswald Gracias.  Perhaps we can also hope for some positive developments going forward, your trustful acceptance of suffering and pain surely must have won favour from God in moving their heart to respond. I also found these words particularly painful as I believe it to be true (I am also from Bosco’s) “Today, my alma mater has demolished the historic chapel and is constructing in its place an air-conditioned community hall and an inter-faith prayer hall or meditation room. The Blessed Sacrament, the beautiful Italian icons and all the pews with the boarders’ prayer books, relics, holy pictures and rosaries will be gone.

It was proposed that they will be replaced with the Bhagavad Gita, the Guru Granth Sahib, the Quran, and of course the most suitable companion to them would be the inter-religious book, the New Community Bible, because a Bible is one of the many holy books. Confessions will be replaced by counseling, and the Salesians today are as much deeply into secular non-biblical psychological counseling [largely New Age] as the Jesuits are into dissent and liberation theology [both congregations and issues are the subjects of articles that will be published during the course of this year, God-willing]. I am the ONLY dissenting voice. Most other old students, including Catholics, find no problem with all that. They come for their annual get-together for drinking alcohol in the parking lot and even rioting [damage to school property] because of which the school locked its gates on them the following year. I have two grandchildren and would not want any of my family to study in that school.

The other Salesian school has yoga classes as part of the curriculum, and my godson and his brother were obliged to chant OM and ‘meditate’. What will be the future of these young men? “

We still have to hope against hope for a more sincere Church. Hope that your struggles succeed. God bless Derrick BAHRAIN

 

 

From: binny.john
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: RE:

Good to see the response. I guess God has given you a special tenacity and perseverance, not because of any special ability or favour, but mainly because you, in a sense, epitomise the concerns, opinion, and feelings of a large section of the laity and clergy (at least, some who see the light, in this manner).
Hence, God has, made you headstrong (as he did to prophet Ezekiel), who was sent to the house of Israel, and told that they will reject him, but still he would have to faithfully and without fear, speak the word of the Lord, to them.
You can (like the prophets of old) come out somewhat crude and indignant, but, when you look at the many deceptions and crookedness and dishonesty that sections in the Church have employed over the last decades (and, somewhat, had their way, maybe on the periphery), I guess, God is getting back at them (not in a personal vengeance, but because His laws and standards have been subtly assailed) – for as the Scripture says, what is hidden will be brought to the light.
Many (including myself, in my own limited manner) have pointed these out, on various occasion – but were diplomatically brushed aside (or, we, had other pressing ministries, commitments, priorities, etc., and hence could not pursue, like you are doing), and hence, you are made by God Almighty as a ‘hard hammer’ that will break these ‘rocks’. So, that is how I understand your work (given the past background and current context).
My good friend, Lual Meshach, a mighty man of God from Rwanda – he is an apostle (given their view of Church, ministries, etc.) (with the many endowments and gifts of the Spirit) candidly once told me, that I had the gift of prohetic teaching and I employ that in my regular teachings (at prayer meetings) and in my emails to you, which, I believe will assist you, in your greater task, in this area.
Lual would move in the gifts of the Spirit, in a manner rarely seen in the Charismatic Renewal, and that opened my eyes to the work of God, in our times -> God is no respecter of persons or Churches, but ultimately seeks to glory His name on the earth. Rgds, Binny John BANGALORE

 

From:
anthony lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: Re: CARDINAL RESPONDS TO: “THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY”

Praise the Lord.  All credit to you and your efforts.  May the Holy Spirit truly take over completely from here. 

After receiving yours to and from Fr George, I took courage to write to all again.  It is in drafts and if and when ready shall copy you. God Bless Anthony Lobo MUMBAI

 

From:
ian dsouza
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: RE: CARDINAL RESPONDS TO: “THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY”

Dear Mike, Excellent work!  It is heartening to read Bp Ossie Gracias’ reply and promise to revise the NCB.  Of course, we do not know how far this will go, but thanks to your tireless efforts, I am sure that great good will come from it.  Be encouraged and keep up the good work to which God has called you. With warm regards,
Ian D’Souza MUMBAI

 

From:
juliana dsouza
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:45 PM Subject: I am with you

Dear Michael, … Angela & you are in my prayer every single day. I pray that God be very close to you & keep you as the apple of His eye. I am very much with you & am willing to do all that I can to help you in this fight against all the stupidity that has entered our church… I don’t want you to feel that you are alone in this fight… You can surely count on me. It is my privilege to be part of your team & this great work of yours. I admire all that you do. Be sure that Jesus is proud of you & is always with you. He will never forsake you.

Last fortnight I met Julius & he too was sharing his concern about your health. He also wanted to some how help you out in this ministry of yours… Love & God Bless, Juliana D’Souza PUNE

 

From:
Fr Conrad Saldanha
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:03 AM

Subject: Re: NCB: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

My dearest Mike I was out for a week for a personal retreat. I look forward to hear from you and the developments concerning the NCB. I read your fitting reply and was much pleased. I have put little comments in blue against George’s letter. Keep up the good work Fr Conrad Saldanha MUMBAI

Fr. G: Christ and His Word do not need defenders. What he needs is people who can commit their life to communicate him to others, to show his love in action.

Fr C: He has a poor knowledge of scripture, Church history and patrology (Esp. St. Justin Martyr). What … we have in the CBCI is evident from this arrogance.

Fr. G: I am open to listen to you and read through your comments and critiques on the NCB, but the disciples of Christ do not use the kind of intimidating language that you seem to be using.

Fr C: It’s high time he reads the frustration of beating against the wall by one man.

From:
Fr Conrad Saldanha
To:

prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:16 AM Subject: Re: CARDINAL RESPONDS TO: “THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY”

Dear Mike, I was immediately glad to see the response, it seems earnest. I am wondering whether it is the Canon Law which you have quoted has made an impact or is it his way of acting sincere and then playing around. Sincerity would mean time bound action and will include you too or your critique in a serious manner and a group of theologians and scripture scholars who are sincere and not like Bp. Agnelo

 

 

 

Secondly, it is not a commentary as referred to by the Cardinal. It is a Bible (NCB), as this is how the Church has promoted it and to refer to it as a commentary is again the folly of the pastors who are not clear about what they are doing and yet promptly deciding and taking decisions as if they know everything… Fr Conrad Saldanha MUMBAI

 

From:
maurice d’almeida
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 6:40 PM

Subject: Re: THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY: NCB

Dear Mr Prabhu, Thank you so much for sending the copy of the above captioned letter to me.  The so-called theologians are confusing the faithful with their human knowledge and wisdom. It does not come from the Holy Spirit and that which does not come form the Spirit of God is not Divine, only human.  It is easier for a person of little faith to accept the truth than for these theologians and the Clergy and the Bishops who say they are the authority and who know the Word of God and the truth.  They are simply driving away the flock from the Lord by their human knowledge and wisdom by misinterpreting the word of God and distorting the truth.  It is like Pharisees and Saducees of the time who burdened the people but now in a different way by confusing the flock of the Lord who do not know what to believe and what not to believe.  If a persons faith is confused and lost what is the life of a Christian worth?.
Why don’t they look at Mother Mary, Apostles, saints for help so they are taught by the Holy Spirit.
Thank you again, Your brother in the Lord Maurice D’ Almeida DUBAI

 

From:
mariza ferrao
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:27 PM

Subject: Re: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY

Hi Prabhu, …I did read all ur mails… I too support you in your call for the withdrawal of the bible. I pray that the Lord empowers you with His grace to do what is right and truth…. God Bless You! Love and Prayers Mariza Ferrao MUMBAI

 

From:
joseph dsilva
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:15 PM

Subject: Re: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Thank U in your painstaking effort in fighting to preserve the truth in the Catholic church and not giving in to error, deceit and heresy. Keep it up, sir! We are with U till the end! Squadron Leader Joseph D’Silva (Retd)

From:
joseph dsilva

To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: Re: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB] TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY [UPDATE]

What foolishness………………demons would be laughing…………really how the devil is deceiving us. Joseph

 

From:
thomas sebastian
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:56 PM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Br. Prabhu, I am also pleased your crusade to withdraw NCB from Catholic public domain is also yielding result.
Let the good Lord bless you, your Ministry & your fly in these trying times & Last days!! Warm Regards & Love,

Sebastian
Thomas MANGALORE

 

From:
rex

To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:27 PM

Subject: RE: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dear Mike, Kudos once again for the fearless crusade of yours against a dark world that only wishes to become darker and more obscure with its evil practices – the Church not excluded!  I am with you, brother, in prayer and spirit. Do not hesitate to call me on any help that you may require regarding this wonderful ministry. God bless you, your work and your family abundantly. Your brother in Christ Jesus. Rex Barnabas CHENNAI

 

From:
stella faria
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:19 PM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Michel, Peace of Christ.  

Thank you for your mails.  Obviously you have done your home work well. Love’s labor can never be lost.  May God be with you as your pursue your mission singlehandedly. Keep well and take care of your health.

In Christ, Stella Faria BANGALORE 

 

From:
sophia chacko
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:24 PM

Subject: Re: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dear Bro. Prabhu, The Annunciation DID HAPPEN, period.
Am sure many of the Bishops you write to agree with you but find themselves too busy with other things than actually do something about it. Hope and pray they find instructing the laity, in the right way more important than other issues.
I agree with you, truly appreciate all your efforts and hard work. May God continue to bless and support you.
Hope you get better soon. God Bless, Sophia Chacko KUWAIT

 

From:
jolly sebastian
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:01 PM Subject: Re: NCB

Dear Bro. in Christ, Thank u for the brief e-mail. I endorse ur view-points on many of the issues. although I beg to differ on some Inculturation issues. Bravo for ur strong convictions & corresponding action in faith. Jolly Sebastian CHENNAI

 

 

 

From:
asha alby
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:17 PM

Subject: Re: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dear Mike, thanks for the 3 emails received.

It is sad shocking and almost depressing to see the state of affairs of the Church in India. I am also surprised that Rome has not been in touch with you, especially on the NCB, as here one is directly interfering with the Bible.  I have still not been able to get a copy and requested a friend from Bombay to send me one to have a look myself.

Frankly Fr. Santosh of Fatima Retreat House teaches all these things that I hear you mentioning about there being no angels, no devils, Genesis is old wives’ tales etc. I attended one or two classes and mum and I directly opposed him, he called mum the devil and quickly added there is a devil in everyone. I was shocked and do not attend anymore of those classes, though sadly many do and I pray God that they may be still Catholics when he has finished!

I think it is only prayer now that can move mountains. We have from over a week started praying for an hour everyday from 3- 4 pm including each one taking one day for fasting for Mangalore and D.K. district. No more can we see the fire and passion for God, our shepherds themselves are scared and compromising, what do you expect the sheep to do?

We need much prayer for our Church and for ourselves.

May God bless you and your efforts. Ivan is out of station and you can be assured of his support & prayers too

God bless Asha Lobo MANGALORE

 

From:
Name Withheld To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:25 PM

Subject: Re: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dearest Mr. Prabhu, Hope this email finds you well under the maternal gaze of Mother Most Holy, to whom the Archangel Gabriel really appeared and called her Full of Grace.

Thank you very much for your emails.  I am forwarding them to some priests here in Rome. Thank you for defending our Holy Faith.  Go ahead with enthusiasm, for you are doing a wonderful work for the Church of God.  I am continuously praying for your and your ministry, and also in a special way for your health. Do please, pray for me also.  May God bless you abundantly. Yours in Christ, Name Withheld
ROME

 

From:
manojsunny
To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:29 PM Subject: RE: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB] TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY [UPDATE]

Dear Prabhu, This is to confirm that I received your mail. Will be praying for you.. Blessings, Manoj Sunny KOCHI

 

From:
Dr. Dominic Dixon
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:40 PM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Hi Mike, Do keep up the tireless and thankless task that Christ has entrusted unto you. You sure are in my prayers. In the last three months I’ve been on constant travel to several countries on missions and could not communicate with you promptly.

Whatever you have in audio could be broadcasted with promos done from our side. The Lord has made our Radio as one of the leading Christian online radio’s. Much love and appreciation, Dominic Dixon BANGALORE

 

From:
br valerian dalmadia
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:35 PM

Subject: Re: NCB: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dear Mike, Praise God! A reply of true faith. God Bless You. Continue the work. Victory belongs to our God. Love

Br. Valerian Dalmaida MUSCAT

 

From:
P J Joseph
To:
Mr Prabhu ; cbcimo@bol.net.in ; diocesebombay@gmail.com ; abpossie@gmail.com ; nuntius@apostolicnunciatureindia.com
Cc:
trinity.cmd@gmail.com ; Jose Sebastian ; Rt Rev Lawrence Pius D Auxiliary Bishop
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB] TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID plustwo other mails of Feb 10.

Dear Mr Prabhu In the first place, I am happy you have been blessed by Mother Mary… Our Satans must go… EDITED

PJ Joseph CHENNAI

 

From:
yvonne rodricks
To:
prabhu Michael NCB
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: RE: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB] TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY [UPDATE]

Dear Michael, While I thank you for taking up these causes so vehemently please do take care of yourself and your health.  I pray that the Lord Jesus Christ holds you on the palm of His hand and protects you at all times.

Stay blessed… Yvonne Rodricks, MUMBAI

 

From:
arul nathan
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:51 AM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Brother, Acknowledging this mail and our prayers are with you for your tremendous efforts for the ministry.

Regards, Arul Nathan NEW DELHI

 

 

 

 

From:
maxineneta d’silva
To:
michael
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:24 PM

Subject: Father, forgive them for this blasphemy

Dear Brother, I am totally disgusted in the way in which some of the church hierarchy are behaving, They are heading for perdition as the Lord Himself has said, unfortunately they will take people foolish enough or who are weak in their faith along with them. We must set up a prayer chain to help save them at any cost. I can’t imagine the pain Jesus must be feeling with all this after His ultimate sacrifice. These are the people He saw when he wept tears of blood in the garden.

I continue to pray for your good health my brother God Bless U Maxineneta D’Silva NASHIK

 

From:
anandham vijayan
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:06 PM

Subject: Re: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dear Brother, It is a glad news that you are back to your healthy mode. Hope that God would heal you completely to do His mission. It is sad that a few priests are not able to accept critical evaluations. Hope that Bishops do a good and unbiased reading to your articles. Thanks, A. Vijayan CHENNAI

 

From:
diana dsouza
To:
30 addresses
Cc:
prabhu Nwage Bible
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: FW: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB] TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY [UPDATE]

Dear all, I am forwarding a few news letters regarding our Catholic faith. It is time that we have to be more understanding & strong in our faith as more & more myths are sprouting & we easily get carried away.
Please make some time & go through the website where you will learn the truth & the cause of this ministry who is working for the truth.
If we are not able to do anything at least contribute our support through prayers. Love & prayers, Diana D’Souza

From:
diana dsouza
To:
prabhu Nwage Bible
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:35 PM

Subject: RE: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dear Michael, Thanks for your news letters which I received after a long time. In fact I was wondering why there is no news from your end? Sorry to note that you were not keeping well.
I pray for the mercies of our healer Jesus Christ upon you. Soon you will recover from your symptoms. 
This is just to assure you of my prayers & success in your ministry. Yours in Christ, Love Diana D’Souza

 

From:
Fr Francois Dupré
To:

‘prabhu’
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: RE: CARDINAL RESPONDS TO: “THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY”

Dear Michael,

I am sure you are absolutely right on focusing your mind and your criticism on the denial of the apparition of the Angel Gabriel to the Blessed Virgin Mary. That is not a small issue.

In fact I read attentively the commentaries of St Matthew 1: 18-25, pp. 1642-1643 of the New Community Bible, and also the commentary of St Luke 1: 26 – 2: 52, pp. 1795-1797; both commentaries written by the Jesuit Fr. George Soares

Prabhu. They are absolutely unacceptable from the Catholic point of view. They sound very much like neo-liberalist Protestant interpretation, making a distinction and even sometimes an opposition between the Jesus of Faith and the Jesus of history about whom they claim we don’t know much. From their view, the 4 Gospels (for them) are describing the Jesus of Faith which doesn’t help much in order to understand the historical Jesus. But, for us Catholics, there is no difference between the Jesus of history and the Jesus of Faith. It is the same and one Person, the Word of God incarnated.

For example, p. 1642 says: “The reading of the genealogy will have warned us not to take this and the following stories of Matthew’s infancy narrative as
historical reports about what really happened at Jesus’ birth. They are popular stories about the infancy of Jesus, current in early Christian circles, which
may have been based on historical events but which have been greatly touched up by the storytellers’ imagination. They are told in a style common among the Jews of the time in which historical fact is so embellished with creative interpretation, that it is no longer possible to separate the two… the purpose of these stories is not to satisfy our curiosity by giving us information about the infancy of Jesus, but to nourish our faith by telling us who Jesus is. The stories of the infancy are not biographical but theological in purpose and content, and must be read as such.”

So, the commentator teaches us, because the purpose of the infancy narrative is theological and not historical,
the reader must not ask historical questions (Where did the magi come from? What did Mary feel when the Angel spoke to her?) but only theological ones (What does the story of Jesus tell us about who Jesus is?).

Matthew’s story of the birth of Jesus does not read at all like a report.

Regarding the dreams of St Joseph, the commentator (p. 1643) does not believe in the historical authenticity of these dreams, when he says: “The whole narrative is a skillfully constructed piece of theological writing through which Matthew wishes to communicate two truths:..”

The commentator of the NCB considers the narratives of the Gospel of Matthew and those of the Gospel of Luke as non- historical reports, only stories cooked by the imagination of the early Christian circles. It is no longer historical fact as such but embellishment and creative interpretation. According to him, the narratives of the Gospel are no longer authentic.

This doctrine has been condemned so many times by the teaching authorities of the Church.

Just let us quote Dei Verbum 19, Vatican Council II:

 

 

 

19. Holy Mother Church has firmly and with absolute constancy held, and continues to hold, that the four Gospels just named, whose historical character the Church unhesitatingly asserts, faithfully hand on what Jesus Christ, while living among men, really did and taught for their eternal salvation until the day He was taken up into heaven (see Acts 1:1). Indeed, after the Ascension of the Lord the Apostles handed on to their hearers what He had said and done. This they did with that clearer understanding which they enjoyed (3) after they had been instructed by the glorious events of Christ’s life and taught by the light of the Spirit of truth. (2) The sacred authors wrote the four Gospels, selecting some things from the many which had been handed on by word of mouth or in writing, reducing some of them to a synthesis, explaining some things in view of the situation of their churches and preserving the form of proclamation but always in such fashion that they told us the honest truth about Jesus.(4) For their intention in writing was that either from their own memory and recollections, or from the witness of those who “themselves from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the Word” we might know “the truth” concerning those matters about which we have been instructed (see Luke 1: 2-4).

Cf. also the Instruction of the Biblical Commission “Sancta Mater Ecclediae” (21st April, 1964) about the historical truth of the Gospels.

Cf. also Condemnation by St Pius X in the decree Lamentabili (1907) of the following [heretical] propositions:

“DS 2014 14. In many narratives the Evangelists related not so much what is true, as what they thought to be more profitable for the reader, although false.
DS 2015 15. The Gospels up to the time of the defining and establishment of the canon have been augmented continually by additions and corrections; hence, there has remained in them only a slight and uncertain trace of the doctrine of Christ.

DS 2021 21. Revelation, constituting the object of Catholic Faith, was not completed with the Apostles.
DS 2029 29. It may be conceded that the Christ whom history presents, is far inferior to the Christ who is the object of faith.”

Benedict XVI wrote his book Jesus of Nazareth in order to describe the true and historical Jesus who is in no way different of the Jesus of the Faith or of the theological conception of the Catholic Faith. (Read the preface)

Regarding the passage of Mt 1: 23 explaining the prophecy of Is 7: 14 [See page 5 of our eight-page critique on the NCB*], the NCB (p. 1643) is distorting the meaning of the Scripture.

The commentator says: “The OT passages quoted [for example, Isaiah 7:14*] did not in their original meaning refer to Jesus nor have the meaning which Matthew
gives them. Matthew re-interprets and sometimes rewrites the texts he quotes in the light of Jesus, believing that in Jesus the Scriptures have been fulfilled”.

* NCB text: The Virgin is with Child: In Hebrew, the word used is almah, which simply means a young woman.” (p. 1239)

NCB commentary: The people of Israel believed that the believing community would give birth to the Messiah. So they substituted the word ‘virgin’ for the original term ‘young girl’. So the evangelists will easily recognize the fulfillment of that prophecy in the virginal birth of Jesus.  

The commentary in Matthew in effect teaches that the above words of Isaiah did not really prophesy the birth of Jesus: QUOTE, UNQUOTE the commentator: “did not in their original meaning refer to Jesus nor have the meaning which Matthew
gives them“.

Thus it seems that Matthew is no longer inspired by the Holy Spirit when he quotes the prophecy of Isaiah as being fulfilled! The Holy Spirit who inspired Isaiah didn’t intend at all what is affirmed through Matthew! Is Matthew an illusionist?

But let us now read the Commentary of St Jerome
on Isaiah 7:14:

“Since it is introduced in the Prophet by the words, [p. 53] “The Lord Himself shall give you a sign,” it ought to be something new and wonderful. But if it be, as the Jews will have it, a young woman, or a girl shall bring forth, and not a virgin, what wonder is this, since these are words signifying age and not purity?

“Indeed the Hebrew word signifying “Virgin” (Bethula) is not used in this place, but instead the word, ‘Halma,’ which except the Septuagint (Greek) all render ‘girl.’ But the word, ‘Halma,’ has a twofold meaning; it signifies both ‘girl,’ and ‘hidden’; therefore ‘Halma’ denotes not only ‘maiden’ or ‘virgin,’ but ‘hidden’, ‘secret’; that is, one never exposed to the gaze of men, but kept under close custody by her parents.

       “In the Punic tongue also, which is said to be derived from Hebrew sources, a virgin is properly called ‘Halma.’ In our tongue also ‘Halma’ means holy; and the Hebrews use words of nearly all languages; and as far as my memory will serve me, I do not think I ever met with Halma used of a married woman, but of her that is a virgin, and such that she be not merely a virgin, but in the age of youth; for it is possible for an old woman to be a maid. But this was a virgin in years of youth, or at least a virgin, and not a child too young for marriage.

        “For that which Matthew the Evangelist says, “Shall have in her womb,” the Prophet who is foretelling something future, writes, “shall receive.” The Evangelist, not foretelling the future but describing the past, changes “shall receive,” into “shall have;” but he who has, cannot after receive that he has. He says, “Lo, a Virgin shall have in her womb, and shall bear a Son”. ”

Regarding the commentary on the Gospel of Luke (1: 26 – 2: 52), the same remarks could be made: Relativisation of the historical aspect. The commentaries on pages 1795 to 1797 are very significative of a spirit infected by the heresy of Modernism which was condemned by Pope St Pius X.

“Like Matthew, Luke gives us a series of stories about the birth and infancy of Jesus which are not to be read as exact reports of what happened, but as ‘theological’ stories which may be based on some fact but have been crafted (often in the language of the Old Testament) to tell us something about the significance of Jesus… The story is thus much more than
an…
account of how Jesus came to be born**. It is an unusually rich theological statement** to show that Jesus is Saviour and Lord…” (page 1796)

 

 

 

**Minimising or subtly avoiding the historical aspect of the account in order to examine the theological.

“[Luke’s] purpose is theological” (page 1794), begins the commentator, not historical? against Luke 1: 4, “so that your Excellency [Theophilus to whom it was addressed, and all believers] may know the truth of all you have been taught.”

The commentator continues, “Many times we view the Christian faith only as a means to save our souls and go to heaven or to encourage us in the difficulties of life. We forget that Christ came to save the world and not just to save ‘souls’.

How many ordinary Catholics, who otherwise clearly understand the life and mission of Jesus, can understand the now complicated theological differentiation of the saving of one’s individual ‘souls’ from the saving of ‘the world’? Is this explanation to be seen in the context of the general trend in the NCB commentaries to interpret or emphasize the Gospels and the Bible as a manifesto of “liberation” [see the critique on the NCB] as against the saving from sin through the redemptive sacrifice of the Only Son of God?

Then follows the account of the story of the Annunciation that is not to be read as literal report, and so on:

“The story of the annunciation is not to be read as a literal report of what happened, but as a dramatization of the inner experience of Mary’s call to be the mother of the Messiah.” (page 1797)

In effect, the commentator is saying, “The angel Gabriel did not appear to Mary. It was not a real, historical, external event. The Annunciation is just a story explaining how Mary experienced internally the call of God and responded to it.”

The commentator affirms against the whole tradition of the Church (Fathers of the Church) that Mary has not made a vow of virginity.

“It is this ‘yes’ of Mary, her perfect submission to God’s will, that is the essence of her virginity.” (page 1796)

The commentator on Luke 1: 34. “How can this be since I am a virgin?” :

“Coming from a young girl just engaged to be married, the question appears odd. Several scholars explain it by assuming that Mary had made a vow of virginity to God. But such a vow of virginity is hard to reconcile with the fact of Mary’s betrothal and even more with the Jewish culture. Virginity was not commonly considered a value in Judaism, and there is no mention of vows of virginity anywhere in Jewish literature. So scholars, even Roman Catholic scholars, increasingly reject this explanation. Rather, Mary’s question is part of the literary device of commission stories…” (page 1797)

“Luke is not reporting factual details but is communicating a religious experience and message through existing biblical pattern”, is how the commentator is explaining the dialogue between Mary and the Archangel Gabriel.

It is just a “commissioning story” (pages 1796, 1797), that is an arrangement of question and answers according to some OT patterns for explaining an interior experience!

So, the scholars who practice theology and write the commentaries with little interest in the historical aspects admit that the trend among them is to “increasingly reject the explanations” that have been part of Tradition for two thousand years.

Dear Michel, I conclude by encouraging you for all your endeavours and good works for the refutation of dirty material that can endanger the Faith of the readers and for your efforts in favor of the sound doctrine and teaching of Mother Church. Let us remember the fight between David and Goliath. It is not the number of the so-called graduated people, not the audience, not the financial support for the cause of the NCB that will eventually make the difference. It is the polite but persisting remarks of simple and devoted people and the soundness of the argumentation that will open the eyes of the Pastors for helping them to make the necessary corrections.

Have you heard about the Petition in order to support the Holy Father. In Europe we have a turmoil in the liberal medias after the lifting of the excommunications.

Please go and read the petition. Three courageous French bishops are supporting the Letter of support to the Holy Father www.soutienabenoitxvi.org/

Take care of yourself and let us pray for each other

Fr Francois Dupré,
THEOLOGIAN

 

From:
sherry abraham
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:35 PM Subject: Re: CALL FOR WITHDRAWAL OF THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]. YOUR RESPONSE — OR SILENCE — CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

Dear Micheal Prabhu, I went to the attachment. You are vigilant like a soldier who fights the intruders who attack our Catholic Church. I could understand that you are spending lot of time reading, typing the whole documents. I forward your mails to 60 of my Jesus Youth and Catholic friends. Why not publish it in joynet?
Please pray for me also. I am a member of the JY Kothamangalam Zone service team.
Please pray for my ministry and to be deep rooted in faith. I too want to be a catholic faith defender and also a great enthusiast in the propagation of the Catholic faith. With regards Sherry Abraham KOTHAMANGALAM

 

From:
Flavia Fernandes
To:
prabhu
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:58 PM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary etc.

Thanks for your mail. Dont delete me from your mailing list. Flavia Fernandes MUMBAI

 

From:
sunu xavier
To:
prabhu
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:55 AM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST.PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Bro, Mike, Great work. May God strengthen you physically and spiritually to go ahead. Sunu Xavier NAGERCOIL

 

 

 

From:
michael dias
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:24 PM

Subject: The Angel Gabriel Did Not Appear To Mary: NCB

Dear Michael, Thanks for your mail. I fully appreciate your point of view with regard to various aspects of the St. Pauls’ New Community Bible. The issues raised by you are not only relevant but valid and you need to bring the same to the notice of the persons responsible for the same. 

I sincerely wish you the Lord’s choicest blessings on the work and activities you are engaged in. Regards and best wishes,

Michael Dias GURGAON

 

Letter received by post:

Dear Michael, Thanks for your email of the third instant. I have been always impressed by you and your beautiful wife, Angela, for all of the work, effort and dedication put in by you in your Ministry.

May the Lord bless you and your family abundantly with His choicest blessings!

As desired, I have obtained the latest Directory-2009 of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India. I do believe you would find the same of use and relevance in your Mission.

Do continue to keep us in your prayers. Very truly yours, sd/- Name withheld NEW DELHI

 

From:
regina_dcosta
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: RE: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB] TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY [UPDATE]

Dear Brother Michael, It is really astounding the depth and width of your work done almost single handedly.  The detailed documentation, the research, the follow-up leaves one gasping!.  May the Lord be your mighty shield as you fend off all those darting arrows of the evil one.  We pray the army of St. Michael the Archangel will strengthen your defense.

We pray that Mother Mary watch over you and keep you safe.  And we pray for great success in your ministry.

Regards, Regina

 

From:
leila aranha
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:13 PM

Hi Michael, I pray for your good health, and that God will continue to use you to expose the evil in the Catholic Church in India. I am glad the cardinal contacted you. Shall pray that the CBCI conference in Mysore will be an eye opener for the bishops and priests in India involved with the NCB and other new age practices. Love and God bless Leila Aranha LONDON

 

From:
ivanlobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:41 AM/ Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:46 AM

Subject: Re: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THEST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Mike, Please keep up the good work. I personally do not see any wrong in sharing views and opinions. Faith is built by sharing and that is the principle. Christ needs to be understood before a person starts the love in action.

Is there any harm for the Church to learn that it could be making a mistake in certain matters? Definitely not. An apology came from the Head of the Church years after certain wrongs were committed. We are struggling with issues especially the division of the Church and you will agree we did not want to listen to the faithful. Crushing the voice of a faithful is fatal has proved fatal in the past and I do not see it producing differently. Ivan Lobo MANGALORE, TRAINED EVANGELIST

 

From:
“Fr.T.C. George” <rosary campaign> To: <michaelprabhu@vsnl.net> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: Thank you very much Re: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB] TEACHES THAT THE ANGEL GABRIEL DID NOT APPEAR TO MARY [UPDATE]

Thank you. May you have a God-led New Year 2009! His love is eternal!
Fr. T.C. George Co-ordinator, the World Rosary Campaign BANGALORE

 

From:
Juliana Dsoza
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:16 PM Subject: Congrats

Dear Michael, I have just managed to go through your mails. I was extremely happy to know that the Cardinal has taken up the issue of the Angel Gabriel & the NCB. It’s the fruit of your hard work. Praise God. I can now understand how difficult it must be to make our, lay people’s voice heard even if it is our doubts & questions regarding faith. What makes me sad is to realize that the very people who should be the guardians of our faith are calling us orthodox & narrow minded. I pray that God opens their eyes so that they may first believe in God’s power & see what a mess they have made of His powerful & Holy Word, The BIBLE. God Bless you abundantly dear Michael. Thank you soooo much for taking up this & many other such issues. God be with you. Love, Juliana D’Souza PUNE

 

From:
Mark Waterinckx
To:
‘prabhu’
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:48 PM

Subject: RE: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dear Michael, My congratulations for your efforts to keep our faith clean of errors. I encourage you to continue the good work. I support you with my prayers, also for your poor health. I offer my own sufferings together with yours

Pax et Bonum Mark Waterinckx CATHOLIC INTERNET MINISTRY, BELGIUM

 

From:
githa rebello
To:
prabhu
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

 

 

Hi Michael, Well ignorance and half knowledge is the cause of dissention. Fr Dr Kenneth  Mcaul an English priest who was Chaplain during second world War and later Psychiatrist actually walked, talked and was saved on the Chinese border by none other than Christ Himself he claims. The face he remembers was Christ and the clothes were that of a Chinese farmer. This farmer saved him from the Japanese attacks pulled him aside and then disappeared.  He explains how the Minds eye sees supernatural where others cannot see.

So if Mother Mary saw Angel Gabriel and he spoke to her its her experience and it is recorded so.  If Jesus Disciples saw his transfiguration  and recorded this in the Gospel it is their experience and  if John the Baptist heard a Voice in heaven which said this is my Son in whom I am well pleased it was his and may be some people around who heard it and they recorded this. Who are we to question this?

If each of us trains ourselves to hear God and hear our conscience the inner voice of our Spirit and attune ourselves to the Holy Spirit we can also hear the word of God.  But for those who are very much in the world all this sounds rubbish. They are people of the flesh and mind and not of the spirit. Regards Githa Rebello BANGALORE

 

From:
vasco rebelo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Dear Michael Thanks for this particular mail. This poor George reply justifies his ignorance under a fatherly sermon. What a shame, that they cannot admit their errors and refuse to admit that even they can err. If Christ comes today He might go searching for the Church He founded in vain. It is time for me to join in your efforts and to expose these devils disguised as angels of light. I hold responsibility as Editor of Shalom, the CCR Newsletter in Goa and I will see what I can do through it to enlighten people on these matters. Till then my love for Angela and you. Vasco Rebelo GOA

 

From:
Anthony Lobo
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:47 AM

Mike, you will receive the letter I wrote about.  When I first felt the need to write, it was supposed to be short and sweet.  But….Hope it will not effect your position or efforts in anyway.  As you, I speak the truth and gone on a limb….my one and only!  We can only continue praying and hoping that the Spirit will open eyes and minds much before persecution does.  I sense that the Spirit is doing a marvellous work again and much is going to happen this year.

With you brother in all you do. God Bless and love. Anthony Lobo MUMBAI

 

From: ivan pinto
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:42 PM

Subject: Re: XXI CCBI Plenary Assembly at Mysore – Feb 12-18, 2009 / THE ST. PAULS’ NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Dear Mike, It is with great appreciation to see the unflinching zeal you are showing in making the right people aware of the very serious flaws in the commentary in the NCB Bible. Looking at the current scenario where the lay person is exposed to various pressures from all sides and substantial numbers of Catholics being drawn away, I agree with you that the points highlighted by you are valid.

I do pray that our Lord Jesus Christ blesses the Nuncio, Bishops and the other participants in Plenary Assembly at Mysore and serves guidelines.

I would like to bring to your attention that the Bishop of Kuwait has informed all the resource centres in the 3 churches in Kuwait that they will only stock 3 Bibles that are approved by him. Yes, there is change happening.

I will definitely pray for you and all the church authorities concerned to take the right decision. Thanks and Best Regards Ivan Pinto KUWAIT

 

From:
stella faria
To:
prabhu
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:53 PM

Subject: Re: A FRENCH THEOLOGIAN CONDEMNS THE ERRORS IN THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]

Praise the Lord Michael, You are doing great work.  Victory must belong to the Lord. Stella Faria BANGALORE

 

From:
patricia dsilva
To:
Michael Prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:43 AM

Subject: THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE

Just wanted to express my sentiments against the publication of the New Community Bible.

It is indeed very sad that our furture generation’s spiritual life is in the hands of our own shepherds.  Why is there need to play into the hands of Satan? He could also quote the bible and what most of our priests are doing is the devil’s work, playing dangerous games like writing Hindu verses and mantras in this “so called bible”.  Imagine saying that the Virgin Mary was not visited by Angel Gabriel, that she only had it all worked out in her mind. Lets not bring down the wrath of our God on the human race. 

We as a family and a part of the body of Christ, demand the total and complete withdrawal of this community Bible.

With warm regards and prayers, Patricia D’Silva Prabhu CHENNAI

 

From:
anthonylobo
To:
diocesebombay@gmail.com ; agnelog@rediffmail.com ; bp_bosco@vsnl.net ; percival_fernandez@vsnl.net
Cc:
vasaidiocese@vsnl.net ; vasaidiocese@gmail.com ; abpossie@sancharnet.in ; ccbi@airtelbroadband.in ; cbcimo@bol.net.in ; abpossie@gmail.com ; Michael Prabhu

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:11 AM Subject: Re: A LETTER FROM A PRIEST, AND MY RESPONSE TO IT

Very Rev. and dear Bishops and Priests,

 

 

 

It is with love for the Church and for my brother Michael Prabhu that I respond to his “war” against New Age in the Church. 

Like John the Baptist, Michael’s has been a lone dissenting voice.  John was blunt and hard hitting to a point.  It got him beheaded.  Michael’s fate also seems to be sealed by the Church whom he loves with his whole life.  Yes, in his approach he has been frank and often times abrasive, thus ruffling many a feather.  But feathers have been ruffled not only because he is abrasive in approach but also because

            i) laity are not expected to question the clergy

           ii) the truth hurts. 

This then is Michael Prabhu, a member of the body of Christ.  But you cannot fault him on his professionalism, his research, his love for the Church.  If perhaps the Church in America had listened to what Ralph Martin warned in his book The Catholic Church at the End of an Age, What is the Spirit Saying? ” the American Church might not have gone through so much disgrace. 

Like Michael, there are many in the Catholic Church who are unhappy with much that is happening. 

Essentially the fact that the Centrality of Christ is being undermined in subtle ways.  

The following are examples of the new mind set people have:

     – Instead of promises to pray for an illness or a need as in earlier days, we are told instead “Have you tried YOGA”?

     – Despite hours of counsel and prayer for inner healing, many have been freed of obsessions only after a prayer of

       deliverance; sometimes against yoga, sometimes against TM, etc.  These same persons have learned so called

       “Christian” yoga from our religious. 

     – A religious herself was healed physically and of broken relationships within the community only after she renounced her involvement with reiki, vipassana and such like and forgave her community for exposing her to the same.  

     – It is a known fact that pillars of the Church, participating in various forums of Church life, swear by reiki and yoga.  –’Yoga has given me ‘peace of mind’- is not an uncommon statement.  Unfortunately lives are being guided and decisions made based on these beliefs. 

Whether out of ignorance or complacency one never hears any correction, any guidance any warnings from the pulpit in this regard despite warnings from the Vatican.  

In fact most often it is the priests and religious themselves who encourage these meditations.

In general and reading between the lines of all that Michael has been projecting through his research, his letters and his appearances, one might surmise  –  Priests and Religious can do and say whatever they like and no one dares question them.  They “know it all”.  We lay people are still in the dark and middle ages, ignorant and unread.  We need to just listen and obey.  But the moment a layperson questions anything a priest practices or preaches, he comes under the gauntlet.  Sad, but the truth.

As laypersons, some of our feelings and responses can be as under:

1. Remain quiet less anything we say might upset the applecart or our ministry (“yet there are dozens of my friends who declined to put down their opposition in writing. Some did not like my taking the issue to the public arena; but mostly they are laity in popular ministry who do not want to jeopardise their security by associating with this ministry and the possibility of having prayer groups or parishes closed to them as has gradually happened to me – quote as Michael writes in his response to Fr George Plathottam) I confess I have been one of them.  I know that there is the distinct possibility that if the Bishop asks me to stop my ministry – I must.  Retreat Houses etc will not be open to me.  Hence I continue in silence as I know a terrible need is being met through my ministry – a need that is not and I repeat not being met
by our priests and pastors.  A ministry which earns me no material benifits.

2. Pray hard to God the Holy Spirit to do something about the matter.  Which we never fail to do.

3. Leave the Church and join one of the 50000 sects existing.  There are times when disillusionment hits hard.  But the pull of Mother Church is too strong.  And that remains our cross.

Dear Bishops and Priests, it has been explained to us years ago that the Church will be attacked from the four directions ie the four columnists; North, South, East and West. 

But the fifth columnist is the one that attacks from within, ie the Church herself. 

1. When will we “come to our senses” and realize that we do not need NEW AGE in the Church but all we need is the HOLY

SPIRIT.  He is well able and capable of solving every problem and dealing with every need the Church is faced with.

2. When will we accept that our people are broken and distorted from their true image as Children of God because of emotional wounds, occultic influences and now New Age which sadly our priests and religious are instrumental in propogating.

3. When will we acknowledge that if we are still searching; if we need to latch-on to other philosophies, other meditations; if we need to take recourse to New Age to explain our Christianity; it is because we have not consciously turned to the Holy Spirit for guidance, for teaching;
we have not been willing to
submit our minds and intelligence to Him;
we forget that the Good News does not end with the Resurrection, but with Pentecost and the Acts of the Apostles. 

4. When will we realize that NEW AGE is a package wrapped up in deceit, allowing Christians but never confessing to Jesus; treating the salvation story as an old fable, a grannies bed side story that is not relevant today. There is no such thing as sin.   There is no such thing as the devil. There is no need to save anyone by resurrecting from the dead. There is no need for Jesus.

 

 

 

5. When will we stop playing games and realize that New Age and Christianity can never be compatible.  They are poles apart. One brings death, the other LIFE.

The one thing that always remains imprinted upon my mind as a beacon of hope is this.  Walking down the main isle of our beloved St. Peter’s in Rome, one might expect to see a huge Crucifix or a statue of Jesus, dominating the entire Basilica.  But instead one sees a most beautiful and consoling sight – a stained glass of the HOLY SPIRIT with His rays of light and power eminating over the whole Church. 

The Church belongs to the HOLY SPIRIT.  Let us return Her to Him.  Perhaps like the stiff necked people of old, we need the forces of persecution from the four directions (which are soon to be upon us) to make this happen; to force us to look up and beg His mercy, his protection, his comfort.  The country, nor the rest of the world, really and truly respects the Church and what she stands for; anymore. In Jesus, your humble servant Anthony Lobo MUMBAI

 

From:
anthony lobo
To:
prabhu
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: Re: NCB

This morning finally sent my letter copy to you.  I wrote and re wrote with the result probably I have taken the sting out of the first draft.  However your note from the French theologian is very inspiring.  We have heard these explanations before that the Angel Gabriel might not have appeared physically to Mary but it was an inward prayer experience.  Yet if our Lord could appear to many of the saints such as Theresa of Avila and our Lady at so many apparitions, why not to Mary herself.

Anyhow, these deeper obstacles I leave you to face!! Much love Anthony Lobo MUMBAI

 

From:
erikagibello
To:
michaelprabhu@vsnl.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:22 AM

Subject: Re: A FRENCH THEOLOGIAN CONDEMNS THE ERRORS IN THE NEW COMMUNITY BIBLE [NCB]

Dear Michael, It is 3.30 am, but I have to write to you. You are right and we (meaning Fr. Rufus Pereira and myself) pray for your courage which is very needed in our days.

Similar to the appearance of my book against New Age, since then the attacks are endless and it has not yet appeared in English, whic